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Big East Athletic Department Information
http://www.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=478368

Total Revenues by Team


Basketball

01) University of Louisville - $26,513,614
02) Syracuse University - $19,021,838
03) Marquette University - $16,486,452
04) West Virginia University - $16,202,508
05) University of Pittsburgh - $13,846,822
06) University of Connecticut - $12,591,174
07) Georgetown University - $12,463,065
08) Villanova University - $9,568,106
09) DePaul University - $8,730,287
10) St. John's University - $8,525,422
11) Rutgers University - $8,369,327
12) Seton Hall University - $8,213,008
13) Providence College - $8,168,962
14) Texas Christian University - $7,646,217
15) University of Cincinnati - $6,739,686
16) University of Notre Dame - $5,083,933
17) University of South Florida - $4,998,393


Football

01) University of Notre Dame - $64,163,063
02) West Virginia University - $29,467,612
03) University of Pittsburgh - $22,513,336
04) Texas Christian University - $20,609,361
05) Rutgers University - $19,494,261
06) Syracuse University - $19,152,691
07) University of South Florida - $16,562,391
08) University of Louisville - $15,537,276
09) University of Connecticut - $14,400,371
10) University of Cincinnati - $13,325,304
11) Villanova University - $5,228,231
12) Georgetown University - $1,430,512


Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined

01) Texas Christian University - $13,796,097
02) University of Connecticut - $12,805,092
03) Rutgers University - $11,548,554
04) Georgetown University - $10,484,240
05) St. John's University - $9,332,919
06) Villanova University - $8,465,103
07) Syracuse University - $8,408,178
08) Providence College - $8,002,052
09) Seton Hall University - $7,166,045
10) University of Cincinnati - $6,747,348
11) Marquette University - $5,652,476
12) DePaul University - $5,514,960
13) University of Pittsburgh - $5,324,146
14) University of Notre Dame - $3,842,661
15) University of Louisville - $1,122,586
16) University of South Florida - $965,578
17) West Virginia University - $874,694


Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams

01) University of Notre Dame - $73,089,657
02) West Virginia University - $46,774,564
03) Syracuse University - $46,582,707
04) University of Louisville - $43,173,476
05) Texas Christian University - $42,051,675
06) University of Pittsburgh - $41,684,304
07) University of Connecticut - $40,600,879
08) Rutgers University - $39,412,142
09) University of Cincinnati - $26,812,338
10) Georgetown University - $24,603,424
11) Villanova University - $23,261,440
12) University of South Florida - $22,526,362
13) Marquette University - $22,138,928
14) St. John's University - $17,858,341
15) Providence College - $16,171,014
16) Seton Hall University - $15,379,053
17) DePaul University - $14,245,247


Not Allocated by Gender/Sport

01) University of Louisville - $20,313,918
02) University of Connecticut - $17,881,411
03) University of Notre Dame - $17,797,397
04) University of South Florida - $16,664,577
05) Rutgers University - $16,152,500
06) West Virginia University - $15,255,540
07) St. John's University - $14,240,003
08) Texas Christian University - $10,353,335
09) University of Cincinnati - $10,289,204
10) University of Pittsburgh - $7,534,252
11) DePaul University - $6,699,757
12) Georgetown University - $4,770,507
13) Villanova University - $4,426,687
14) Seton Hall University - $3,844,613
15) Syracuse University - $2,759,752
16) Providence College - $2,355,805
17) Marquette University - $22,809


Grand Total for all Teams

01) University of Notre Dame - $90,887,054
02) University of Louisville - $63,487,394
03) West Virginia University - $62,030,104
04) University of Connecticut - $58,482,290
05) Rutgers University - $55,564,642
06) Texas Christian University - $52,405,010
07) Syracuse University - $49,342,459
08) University of Pittsburgh - $49,218,556
09) University of South Florida - $39,190,939
10) University of Cincinnati - $37,101,542
11) St. John's University - $32,098,344
12) Georgetown University - $29,373,931
13) Villanova University - $27,688,127
14) Marquette University - $22,161,737
15) DePaul University - $20,945,004
16) Seton Hall University - $19,223,666
17) Providence College - $18,526,819
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Been screamin' it from the rooftop for 2 years...

Stand by for the requisite "Yeah, but..."

FWIW just over half of that 6.7 million in total mens BB revenue goes to the total operating budget for mens BB...rest goes to support non revenue. Yee haw.

FWIW II: as far as basketball goes, big jump in revenue for DePaul. Big drop by ND from last year's reporting. Rest are pretty consistant.
 
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what was our revenue in bball back in Huggs time when we were a top program? How much have we dropped?
 
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seems like nd should be a worst bb team. also take schools like nova, how much of their bb rev. support non-rev sports? at least we have BE football to help cover those cost.

if money is so important then we should be able to pick the order standings to some degree by the revenue. Someone should post the revenue of all the teams in the ncaa come march. teams with the most money should be your final fours.

and why was uc football so good under bk with so little $? how could uconn be good? why ain't rutgers good?
 
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ND uses all of that cash for basketball. Not shared with non revenue like most programs. Their football team picks up that tab.

ND's operating and recruiting budget is in the top half of the conference.

And if you look at men's basketball total operating budget, you almost can pick the standings. At least the top 8. Only outlier is Marquette who has the highest BE basketball budget. Then come the usual suspects....Cuse, UL, Pitt, Nova, Uconn, WVU, Georgetown, ND...(my order is off by a little....I will give you the exact order in just a bit if you are interested with a link to the US Dept. Of Education where all these stats are federally mandated to be reported yearly).

EDIT: The stuff below changes what I said about ND a bit. They changed their financing levels a bunch recently.
 
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(01-31-2011 07:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  ND uses all of that cash for basketball. Not shared with non revenue like most programs. their football team picks up that tab.

ND's operating and recruiting budget is in the top half of the conference.

And if you look at men's basketball total operating budget, you almost can pick the standings. At least the top 8. Only outlier is Marquette who has the highest BE basketball budget. Then come the usual suspects....Cuse, UL, Pitt, Nova, Uconn, WVU, Georgetown, ND...(my order is off by a little....I will give you the exact order in just a bitt with a link to the US Dept. Of Education where all these stats are federally mandated to be reported yearly).

shouldn't it work the same for football? it would seem money would be a bigger issue in football then basketball considering the amount of recruiting you do, along with more coaches and players staying at least 3 years. maybe i've made myself dizzy with all of this but how can uconn be good in football? I think coaching is more of a factor then what you're giving it.
 
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Just talking resources and dollars and sense/cents.

No opinions or spin. These are straight up the reported numbers.

These are the most recent complete 2009 numbers - changes some of what I said since I previously had 2008's. Some notable changes that surprised me in budget from prior years (UL overtook Marquette for the top spot...ND's budget took a hit, plus see the note below) and recruiting budget (some top teams like Pitt and Nova cut theirs back and teams like USF really poured more $$ into it). If you want a excel spreadsheet I can email.

Big East Men's BB Operating Budget Rankings:
(*Note: DePaul and Seton Hall took inexplicable, huge jumps up from the prior year...Without seeing their documentation, I can only speculate what that reflects...possibly charge offs or facility fees...just guessing b/c they more than doubled their reported budget from prior years with no increase in recruiting budget, et. al..)

1. UL (9,089,769)
2. Marquette (8,185,030)
3. Syracuse (8,086,376)
4. Georgetown (7,393,234)
5. UCONN (6,940,903)
6. St. John's (6,741,298)
7. *DePaul (6,528,661)
8. West Virginia (6,377,761)
9. * Seton Hall (6,215,923)
10. Villanova (6,117,021)
11. Pittsburgh (6,046,724)
12. Providence (4,696,862)
13. Rutgers (4,495,147)
14. Notre Dame (4,060,565)
15. Cincinnati (3,754,077)
16. South Florida (3,215,424)


Big East Men's BB Recruiting Budget Rankings:

1. Marquette (957,933)
2. West Virginia (669,844)
3. Syracuse (623,448)
4. Louisville (599,837)
5. UCONN (592,928)
6. Notre Dame (576,812)
7. Rutgers (443,864)
8. South Florida (384,387)
9. Pittsburgh (358,076)
10. Cincinnati (356,407)
11. Georgetown (333,375)
12. Villanova (303,164)
13. Providence (249,741)
14. St. Johns (178,457)
15. Depaul (137,042)
16. Seton Hall (91,712)


Note II: These are prior to Lavin's hire...reports out of NY are that the recruiting budget exploded this year so take where St. John's is on this with a grain of salt.


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in fairness to Mick...(and I'm pissed at him now so stay with me)....look at our bball revenues/operating budget etc....we are near bottom. My question to all of us is: is it fair to expect the man (or ANY coach we may get) to compete with the elite in this conference? It's a tough deal because to raise our revenues/op budget we need to win....but to do that we need talent but to get the talent and win and bring the fans it takes money...it's a vicious circle. Just saying...we put all this pressure on Mick to compete at the top of the conference and then the reality of the numbers comes out. Honestly, all things in consideration (what he inherited, what he has to work with money wise etc etc etc) I'm amazed we are even talking ncaa tourney right now.
 
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"Capturing the full picture of athletics subsidization can be difficult, even with NCAA revenue and expense documents. Although collaborative efforts by the NCAA and the National Association of College and University Business Officers have brought greater standardization of reporting, schools use many different ways of categorizing and counting revenues and expenses."

"Nationally, Cincinnati's $10.7 million subsidy is a fraction of the $826 million in annual public and university subsidies received by major-college programs in 2008, a USA TODAY analysis of athletic department financial data found. As at Cincinnati, many of these millions are going to programs in the six richest conferences — the Big East, Atlantic Coast, Big Ten, Big 12, Pacific-10 and Southeastern."

The above referenced from: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2...htm?csp=34


UC Athletics Task Force Report - Draft

http://www.uc.edu/news/docs/Athletics_Report_Final.pdf


Unless we can find where they break out the amount of student fee subsidies and University subsidies vs. from donors...
 
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