we were lucky to only gotten beaten by 11 points. WVU should have won by 20 or more. One of the worst, lackadaisacal UC games I ever seen. Played right into Bob Huggins' hands. HE couldn't have scripted this any better.

maybe the UC players want to go back to playing the really weak, small schools. It's like they don't want to compete against the big boys anymore. UC fans are not used to having teams giving up and quitting like this. Will this team ever rebound from this funk? I know it's hard when Mick starts a 6'11 stiff with no basketball skills or balls to compete against the other Big East teams. Ibrahim Thomas is a joke and maybe UC will let him keep his UC uniform so he can dress up to impersonate a division I basketball player on Halloween.

(01-30-2011 04:28 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  maybe the UC players want to go back to playing the really weak, small schools. It's like they don't want to compete against the big boys anymore. UC fans are not used to having teams giving up and quitting like this. Will this team ever rebound from this funk? I know it's hard when Mick starts a 6'11 stiff with no basketball skills or balls to compete against the other Big East teams. Ibrahim Thomas is a joke and maybe UC will let him keep his UC uniform so he can dress up to impersonate a division I basketball player on Halloween.

Agree about our players being intimidated against the big boys. We let every good opponent dictate the game tempo and their gameplan on us. It's embarrassing.

(01-30-2011 05:03 PM)Vottomatic Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 04:28 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  maybe the UC players want to go back to playing the really weak, small schools. It's like they don't want to compete against the big boys anymore. UC fans are not used to having teams giving up and quitting like this. Will this team ever rebound from this funk? I know it's hard when Mick starts a 6'11 stiff with no basketball skills or balls to compete against the other Big East teams. Ibrahim Thomas is a joke and maybe UC will let him keep his UC uniform so he can dress up to impersonate a division I basketball player on Halloween.

Agree about our players being intimidated against the big boys. We let every good opponent dictate the game tempo and their gameplan on us. It's embarrassing.

I've always said mick tries to counter the other team instead of playing our game. I don't know how good you can be as a team when you go into every game not knowing who's gonna show up.

hopefully these top teams keep stumbling and we can find some continuity.

(01-30-2011 10:59 AM)Vottomatic Wrote:  It terms of basketball IQ, UC's players and coaches must have one of the lowest in the country.

I said this while watching the game with some buddies. The basketball IQ as a team is just awful. They have a bunch of terrible shooters that continue to jack up 3's. Why does this happen? And why is this allowed to happen?

And the other posters are right, it seems like UC is flat out intimidated against the better Big East teams. They NEVER dictate the tempo in these kinds of games. They simply sit back and react to what the other team does.

I didn't hear Mick's post game...did he mention all the 3's???? Did anyone ask him about this?

(01-31-2011 10:39 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 10:59 AM)Vottomatic Wrote:  It terms of basketball IQ, UC's players and coaches must have one of the lowest in the country.

I said this while watching the game with some buddies. The basketball IQ as a team is just awful. They have a bunch of terrible shooters that continue to jack up 3's. Why does this happen? And why is this allowed to happen?

And the other posters are right, it seems like UC is flat out intimidated against the better Big East teams. They NEVER dictate the tempo in these kinds of games. They simply sit back and react to what the other team does.

Dixon came in shooting 35% from 3 on the year. He went 1-6 and is now 34%.
Kilpatrick came in shooting 41% from 3 and went 1-4. He's 40% now.
Larry Davis came in shooting 45% and went 1-5, so he's 43% now.
Bishop was shooting 34% and went 1-5, so he's down to 33%.
Cash was shooting 38% and went 4-6, so he's up to 41%.

Those 5 guys shot 26 of the 29 3s (the other 3 coming from Thomas (2) and Gates (1), who should not be shooting 3s). They got a bunch of open looks that they didn't knock down. Which are the terrible shooters?

I wanted them to attack the basket more, but they weren't really successful when they did it.

I disagree that they let WVU dictate the tempo. UC was turning them over a bunch in the first half with their trap. As far as I could tell, the problem was UC kept sending WVU to the line and couldn't hit any of those threes to open up the packed in lane.

(01-31-2011 12:53 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(01-31-2011 10:39 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 10:59 AM)Vottomatic Wrote:  It terms of basketball IQ, UC's players and coaches must have one of the lowest in the country.

I said this while watching the game with some buddies. The basketball IQ as a team is just awful. They have a bunch of terrible shooters that continue to jack up 3's. Why does this happen? And why is this allowed to happen?

And the other posters are right, it seems like UC is flat out intimidated against the better Big East teams. They NEVER dictate the tempo in these kinds of games. They simply sit back and react to what the other team does.

Dixon came in shooting 35% from 3 on the year. He went 1-6 and is now 34%.
Kilpatrick came in shooting 41% from 3 and went 1-4. He's 40% now.
Larry Davis came in shooting 45% and went 1-5, so he's 43% now.
Bishop was shooting 34% and went 1-5, so he's down to 33%.
Cash was shooting 38% and went 4-6, so he's up to 41%.

Those 5 guys shot 26 of the 29 3s (the other 3 coming from Thomas (2) and Gates (1), who should not be shooting 3s). They got a bunch of open looks that they didn't knock down. Which are the terrible shooters?

I wanted them to attack the basket more, but they weren't really successful when they did it.

I disagree that they let WVU dictate the tempo. UC was turning them over a bunch in the first half with their trap. As far as I could tell, the problem was UC kept sending WVU to the line and couldn't hit any of those threes to open up the packed in lane.

There were a few good looks that they didn't knock down. There were a lot more bad looks that they took because they didn't have the patience/eptitude to get a better shot. Lot of threes with time left on the clock and the defense unmoved.

They were not successful attacking the basket because they were weak at the rim. Nobody finishes aggressively, people worried about getting fouled/blocked instead of trying to put the ball in the basket.

As for first vs. second half- our team did not adjust. Huggs turned to Mazzulla and let him break the pressure (which was non existent because we couldn't make a basket or get an offensive rebound), and then we allowed Mazulla to get into the lane at will. What did we do to take that away?

Good coaches make adjustments. There was no adjustment. We did not try to get the ball inside, and when guys were open inside- passess were not made. The ball was pounded at the top of the key and passed to the wing for a long three.