Can someone please breakdown the current BE TV contract for me.

How much does each school currently get?

Is there a seperate contract for football and basketball?

Does the football side share any of the bowl money with the basketball side?

1)Im not sure how much they get. its not much right now but should be a good deal more than the ACC is getting now (I think now its 4 mil for FB schools and rough projections as of last week meeting is up to 15+ mil possibly more as Fox wants to make an offer.

2) there are two separate contracts and basketball contract is larger than football.

3) no football schools get money from both basketball and football contract. BB schools only get money from basketball contract.

(01-29-2011 10:55 AM)Cromie Wrote:  1)Im not sure how much they get. its not much right now but should be a good deal more than the ACC is getting now (I think now its 4 mil for FB schools and rough projections as of last week meeting is up to 15+ mil possibly more as Fox wants to make an offer.

2) there are two separate contracts and basketball contract is larger than football.

3) no football schools get money from both basketball and football contract. BB schools only get money from basketball contract.

So it's approximately $4 million a year for the football side? How much does the bball add to that?

(01-29-2011 10:55 AM)Cromie Wrote:  rough projections as of last week meeting is up to 15+ mil possibly more as Fox wants to make an offer.

Fox will pony up. They are running out of conferences to partner with. They are already partners with the Big Ten but have lost out on recent bids for the ACC and the Longhorn Network.

The money is there (since they made strong bids for both), the product is there (especially Big East Basketball), and the opportunity is there so I could see this getting done fairly easy.

ESPN may be the big dog but they can't buy off every conference. You can't keep paying about 200-300 million a pop and not hit a wall at some point. Plus there are only so many hours in the day to fit all that programming in.

The folks at ESPN have spent the last 20 years advising everyone that The BEast's BCS bid should be revoked. I don't see any reason why we should consider any kind of loyalty to them, knowing we'll always be their last consideration in scheduling. I say if FOX is willing to cough up similar bucks, we go with them, and make certain that people who know - and care - about BEast football are covering the games...

We have one more season under this contract, and just finished our worst year ever in the new configuration. Next season is another animal, and I've got a feeling it's going to be a completely different kind of animal too. Let's kick some butt, and maximize our TV potential prior to discussing a new TV contract. If we do that, more money will certainly be forthcoming...

agreed. Basketball is having an excellent year and next year football will be better and still very competitive. TCU joining i 2012 will add to that. So you can see that the next contract will be a lot better for the Big East.

It will be a bidding war no doubt about that. ESPN wanted to make an early offer to the BE but the BE said they will wait and look at all offers and counter offers I would not be surprised for 20+ for football schools(as they get both fb and BB monies)

@ Born. Dont count on that 4 each. I am really not sure what it is. Though the current BB contract is 1.5 x that of the football contract. FB contract is 2X mil and the BB is 3X ( that is 20 something and BB 30 something dont know the second number)

@ Cuban. The amount of money will get will be heavily dependent on how the FB teams do next year. WVU TCU UoL need to have amazing years along with every one else, and the 10th team who ever that may be needs to have a good year too. The better the year the more value one has.

BB is VERY strong this year and this always helps.


You have to consider the BE Markets also. Before BE added TCU I believe the number of US house holds in BE markets was in the mid to high 30% Add Dallas Fort Worth and that number grows and how ever BE gets as 10th Member will also be big. The BB school are vary important because of the markets were they are located

BB schools
ND - nation wide
Marquette - Milwaukee
Depaul - Chicago
ST Johns - NY
Georgetown - DC
Nova - Philly
Providence - .... not sure RI

FB school
Rutgers - New Jersey/ NY
Pitt - Pittsburgh
WVU - Pittsburgh, DC, Charlotte NC
USF - Tampa
TCU - Dallas FW/ some Huston
Louisville -Louisville
SU- NY
Cinci- Cinci

That is alot of major markets and house hold alot of the top markets in the US also

BE will be getting a lot of money

The funny about all of this contract talk....it doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot to us fans, unless the conference sells out for more money but bad timeslots/days of the week. Its fun to talk money, but really shouldn't we be more concerned with making sure we get weekend games for football and prime spots throughout the week for basketball on the main channel lineup?

More money means better facilities, better stadiums, ABLE To KEEP COACHES!!! Looks better for recruits. really does not mean anything for us fans To be honest. Unless they start paying us to go to games. It could mean lower ticket prices. WVU's are up their at 45-50 a game general seating and 35-40 basketball

I guess the main this the legitimacy of the conference

We should be worried about money as fans so our schools can pay for coaches, facilities and we're capable of keeping up with other conferences. People seem to forget that conference expansion is happening because of money.

(01-29-2011 02:16 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  We should be worried about money as fans so our schools can pay for coaches, facilities and we're capable of keeping up with other conferences. People seem to forget that conference expansion is happening because of money.

Right for the Big East schools on the lower end of the budget an increase in TV rights is going to be key.

I could see a split package with basketball staying with ESPN while football heading to Fox for 12 mil per year. ESPN will do whatever it takes to keep Big East basketball in the fold and perhaps pay as much as 5-6 million per school for it (as opposed to 2 mil per school as it is now).

The football Big East schools would end up making 17-18 mil when its all said and done and that would be huge at a place like Cincinnati or Villanova if they choose to move up. VU would be stupid not too with the football deal enough to pay for a football operating budget and then some.

Dont fool yourselves. Money is driving this train and all of our schools need that extra income to pay for better coaches and facilities. Its an arms race and right now the Big East is falling further behind the other BCS conferences.
I think ESPN really doesnt want to lose Big East basketball and thus will come to the table with extra money. I can see a split deal with both FOX/NBC and ESPN where both get access to Big East games.

Also keep in mind that this expansion is driven by the fact that we realize we're way behind the other BCS conferences financially and the Big East knows this and will so everything we can to get huge money, don't expect Marinatto to throw the football schools under the bus like Tranghese did just to give basketball a huge pay day, everyone's getting paid this time around.

All will be well in the end. 12/21/2012.

(01-29-2011 02:16 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  We should be worried about money as fans so our schools can pay for coaches, facilities and we're capable of keeping up with other conferences. People seem to forget that conference expansion is happening because of money.

Good pt...as the former HC of Big East Football teams that jumped to other BCS Teams...as those coaches jumped to programs like Michigan, ND, Michi St and Maryland (not counting former UL Coach Petrino now in the SEC).

Can't recall any recent BCS HC that jump from a current BCS HC job to take one at a Big East School.

The model for past successful Big East Football Coaches has been:

1) Win
2) Jump ship to another BCS Conf/program if you can

(01-30-2011 12:14 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  Also keep in mind that this expansion is driven by the fact that we realize we're way behind the other BCS conferences financially and the Big East knows this and will so everything we can to get huge money, don't expect Marinatto to throw the football schools under the bus like Tranghese did just to give basketball a huge pay day, everyone's getting paid this time around.

I agree with the overall sentiment (that expansion is driven by football TV money), but I definitely don't think Tranghese threw the football schools under the bus. To the contrary, the only reason why BE football had a TV deal at all was because ESPN wanted BE basketball and Tranghese ensured that the two sports weren't separated. If ESPN could've taken BE BB without BE FB, they would've done so back then. BE FB was lucky to get any type of ESPN coverage in the wake of the ACC raid - it was BE BB that allowed that to happen.

(01-31-2011 10:24 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 12:14 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  Also keep in mind that this expansion is driven by the fact that we realize we're way behind the other BCS conferences financially and the Big East knows this and will so everything we can to get huge money, don't expect Marinatto to throw the football schools under the bus like Tranghese did just to give basketball a huge pay day, everyone's getting paid this time around.

I agree with the overall sentiment (that expansion is driven by football TV money), but I definitely don't think Tranghese threw the football schools under the bus. To the contrary, the only reason why BE football had a TV deal at all was because ESPN wanted BE basketball and Tranghese ensured that the two sports weren't separated. If ESPN could've taken BE BB without BE FB, they would've done so back then. BE FB was lucky to get any type of ESPN coverage in the wake of the ACC raid - it was BE BB that allowed that to happen.

Absolutely. People look back on 2003 through a 2011 prism. When the last TV deal was done the Big East football lineup was an unproven commodity that didn't have much in the way of demand.

Someone posted this over on are rival site about possibly getting 15million per football school as well in the first post mentioning the ESPN has guaranteed no less than 10million per school.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2759&t=7131234

Hopefully the copy paste works for me for some time I end up having issues in doing so, and I am going to copy this in another thread as well for it talks about Nova moving up also.

(01-31-2011 09:50 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Someone posted this over on are rival site about possibly getting 15million per football school as well in the first post mentioning the ESPN has guaranteed no less than 10million per school.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2759&t=7131234

Hopefully the copy paste works for me for some time I end up having issues in doing so, and I am going to copy this in another thread as well for it talks about Nova moving up also.

15 was an estimated number and could rise we will just have to see

If nova announces their decision in February, rather than April and it is a YES, you can bet that the expected value of the new TV contract is a significant bump relative to the current deal. For nova, this is still a "money" move and going from $5mm per year to $15mm per year in tv revenue would eliminate all almost all impediments to the move for nova