(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

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We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

We must focus on Army first. This is not a gimme.
They won their bowl game too.

Yes, Army won't be a gimme. I like having them to start the year, it would be a tougher defensive adjustment to have them on 1 week's prep. Plus, if Cal Poly is still an option team, playing Army lessens the risk of an upset there.

I'm looking forward to the Army game. I think I'm going to wear the Army ACU trousers and boots with my NIU jersey on top. Ofcourse, no question about who I'm rooting for. I always hated West Point officers

(01-14-2011 01:10 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  Yes, Army won't be a gimme. I like having them to start the year, it would be a tougher defensive adjustment to have them on 1 week's prep. Plus, if Cal Poly is still an option team, playing Army lessens the risk of an upset there.

Army is going to be a tough, tough match-up. Remember how we fared against the triple-option last time we saw it against Navy?

(01-16-2011 03:17 AM)Big Tex Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 01:10 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  Yes, Army won't be a gimme. I like having them to start the year, it would be a tougher defensive adjustment to have them on 1 week's prep. Plus, if Cal Poly is still an option team, playing Army lessens the risk of an upset there.

Army is going to be a tough, tough match-up. Remember how we fared against the triple-option last time we saw it against Navy?

I think we blow by Army pretty easy, Kansas is scary though. Very winnable game @ Kansas however.

How is Kansas scary? It's a BCS team we have a really good chance of beating. Where I come from we call that fun.

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

we have not even won a conference championship in recent years, yet some are talking about BCS? the homerism and blind faith on this board sometimes is baffling

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

I agree with the coaching change there is a very slim chance of going undefeated next year. I am hoping for a 10 win season because it would still be fantastic having back to back double digit winning seasons.

However, if the Huskies were undefeated with their current 2011 schedule we would be in the BCS discussion no question. A lot of people would be questioning if a MAC team is worthy but we would still be apart of the discussion.

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

Brad, if NIU went undefeated and beat A top 15 Wisconsin and also Kansas and Army, NIU would be in a BCS bowl game, thats not even up for discussion.

(01-16-2011 01:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

Brad, if NIU went undefeated and beat A top 15 Wisconsin and also Kansas and Army, NIU would be in a BCS bowl game, thats not even up for discussion.

Wisconsin just lost 2 of its top players and their starting QB. They are going to be good, but I doubt they will be a top 15, let alone top 25.

(01-16-2011 02:42 PM)niuliger09 Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 01:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

Brad, if NIU went undefeated and beat A top 15 Wisconsin and also Kansas and Army, NIU would be in a BCS bowl game, thats not even up for discussion.

Wisconsin just lost 2 of its top players and their starting QB. They are going to be good, but I doubt they will be a top 15, let alone top 25.

Top 15 without any problem. They lost those players but man oh man are they still stacked

(01-16-2011 01:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

Brad, if NIU went undefeated and beat A top 15 Wisconsin and also Kansas and Army, NIU would be in a BCS bowl game, thats not even up for discussion.

I don't think so. A lot of other things would need to happen as well.

(01-16-2011 01:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 08:22 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 12:45 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2011 09:56 AM)cyberdawg Wrote:  It is near ludicrous, lunacy and folly to suggest NIU may be a candidate for Rose Bowl in 2011.

Look how many years of success TCU required to develop itself into a genuine BCS level program.

Boise also did not achieve the level of its play as a one hit wonder.

Win 8 to 10 or more NIU games each season for a minimum of 5 yrs then re-post the suggestion.

____

We could be very good again next season --- or not. Coaching transitions and players missing to fill positions in new systems never goes very smoothly. Remember how Kill longed for another big back like Brandon Jacobs before getting Bell? Doeren already stated he would use the talent available to maximize team's strengths. This suggests to me pieces are missing to fully execute his systems the way he wants.

The suggestion to simply beat Army first is the smartest approach to wondering what 2011 season may bring. It's time to move beyond the euphoria of TUKE'S performance and the bowl victory.

Cybes, whether we like it or not, if we beat UW in Solider Field we are in the BCS bowl discussion. Especially given we will be starting somewhere 25-35. At that position we could be ranked somewhere around 15 if we beat Wisconsin, assuming of course we can sneak by Kansas.

cyberdawg is correct. MaddDawgz is wrong. Stop the BCS crazy talk.

IF we scrap Cal Poly for Air Force and IF we lose our current crossover games for Ohio, Miami and Temple and IF we run the table, then we MIGHT have an outside chance at the discussion. Guess what, none of that is happening. A 10-12 win season next year is a very real possibility, but some need a reality check.

Brad, if NIU went undefeated and beat A top 15 Wisconsin and also Kansas and Army, NIU would be in a BCS bowl game, thats not even up for discussion.

Possible, but very unlikely. But once again your ignorance comes though with the "thats not even up for discussion" comment. Get a clue man.

Brad.. very unlikely? Not really.. if you go undefeated, and beat a top 15 team, along with Kansas and Army, it's at worst 50/50 to get in a BCS game. For once, MD is actually probably not far off. It's certainly not very unlikely.

(01-17-2011 09:47 AM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Brad.. very unlikely? Not really.. if you go undefeated, and beat a top 15 team, along with Kansas and Army, it's at worst 50/50 to get in a BCS game. For once, MD is actually probably not far off. It's certainly not very unlikely.

It would depend, in large part, on what the other non-AQ schools do. If TCU or Boise go undefeated (just as an example) but don't play for the national title, they'd likely go ahead of NIU, and there wouldn't be a 2nd non-AQ team in the BCS. Another issue is the MAC has been so poor that it is killing the strength of schedule for a team like NIU in the computer ratings. TCU and Boise have struggled with the computer ratings because of the conferences they are in, and it would be even worse for NIU.

That said, if NIU is the only undefeated non-AQ team, and if Wisconsin goes 10-2 or something like that, and Kansas isn't one of the worst BCS teams in the country again, they'd have a shot at it.

Well I assumed as part of the discussion that Wisconsin finishes in the top 15, obviously if Wisconsin has a bad season, all bets are off, but MD qualified his statement.

FYI: Boise, TCU along with Air Force & SD St are all in the same conference (MWC) next year and all play each other in 2011 so only one of them could end the season undefeated.

Can we just get a freakin MACC win please?

(01-17-2011 12:56 PM)NIUtrav09 Wrote:  Can we just get a freakin MACC win please?

+1 lets learn how to walk before we want to start running