(01-20-2011 12:55 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  boy, that looks very strange! Akron as the #12 seed?! Ohio at Kent State as a first-round game? wow! bizarre season so far in the MAC.

=>It always does look bizarre early on. But on Tuesday, the "MAC East vs. West Challenge" begins and you will start to see reality setting in to the seeding.

As has been the case for the last 7 or so years, the MAC East is dominant again:

Average MAC East RPI is 150.167
Average MAC West RPI is 252.833.

100 spot variance.

Every MAC East team is ranked 254 or better. Every MAC West team, except BSU, is ranked 252 or worse. Highest ranked teams in the MAC are from the East (#88 Kent, #90 Miami). 5 of the top 6 are from the East and 6 of the top 8 are from the East.

Also, I think Akron will beat BG this weekend which will end Akron's spot at the bottom.

(01-20-2011 01:32 PM)mollautt Wrote:  As has been the case for the last 7 or so years, the MAC East is dominant again:

Average MAC East RPI is 150.167
Average MAC West RPI is 252.833.

Yeah, but that's because Toledo is in the West......

(01-20-2011 01:39 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(01-20-2011 01:32 PM)mollautt Wrote:  As has been the case for the last 7 or so years, the MAC East is dominant again:

Average MAC East RPI is 150.167
Average MAC West RPI is 252.833.

Yeah, but that's because Toledo is in the West......

=>Toledo is not even the lowest ranked! It is a collective effort by the West.

BSU is #102, WMU is #215, NIU is #252, CMU #290, Toledo is #328, EMU 330. There are only 345 teams in DI basketball.

I guess the RPI isn't very accurate. EMU is below us, but beat us by 23 points on our own home court.

Of course, the RPI is only designed to help identify the top 50 or so teams by the end of the season. Past that, it's not very useful, especially in trying to differentiate lousy teams in mid-season.

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/23/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Ohio (1-4)^ @ 5. WMU (3-2)# – TBA
GM 2: 11. Toledo (1-4)^ @ 6. Buffalo (3-2)*# – TBA
GM 3: 10. Akron (2-3)% @ 7. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%& – TBA
GM 4: 9. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%& @ 8. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%& – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BSU (5-0) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. Kent State (3-2)*$ – East Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. BGSU (3-2)*$# vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Miami (3-2)*# vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Head-2-head, Kent & BGSU are 2-1 and UB & Miami are 2-1.

$ Kent beat BGSU head-2-head.

# Head-2-head, BGSU is 2-0, Miami 1-1, WMU is 0-0, and UB is 0-2.

% Head-2-head, EMU, NIU, & CMU are 1-1, and Akron is 0-0.

& EMU/CMU/NIU tiebreaker to be determined by coin toss.

^ Head-2-head, Ohio & Toledo have not played. Toledo has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #5 WMU.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

Not up yet as of 01/10/11

(01-20-2011 06:32 PM)axeme Wrote:  Of course, the RPI is only designed to help identify the top 50 or so teams by the end of the season. Past that, it's not very useful, especially in trying to differentiate lousy teams in mid-season.

No system that doesn't take margin of victory into account can be considered reliable. Go with Basketball State, Sagarin, or Pomeroy if you want something better.

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/25/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-5) @ 5. Miami (3-2)$ – TBA
GM 2: 11. Ohio (1-4) @ 6. WMU (3-3) – TBA
GM 3: 10. Akron (2-3)% @ 7. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%^ – TBA
GM 4: 9. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%^ @ 8. EMU/CMU/NIU (2-3)%^ – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BSU (5-0) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BGSU (4-2)* – East Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. Buffalo (4-2)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Kent (3-2)$ vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

$ Kent beat Miami head-2-head.

% Head-2-head, EMU, NIU, & CMU are 1-1, and Akron is 0-0.

^ EMU/CMU/NIU tiebreaker to be determined by coin toss.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/26/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-5) @ 5. Miami (3-2)$ – TBA
GM 2: 11. EMU (2-4)#^ @ 6. WMU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 3: 10. Akron (2-4)#^ @ 7. NIU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 4: 9. Ohio (2-4)# @ 8. CMU (2-3) – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BSU (5-0) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BGSU (4-2)* – East Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. Buffalo (4-2)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Kent (3-2)$ vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

$ Kent beat Miami head-2-head.

% WMU beat NIU head-2-head.

# Head-2-head, Ohio is 2-0 and Akron & EMU are 0-1.

^ Head-2-head, Akron & EMU have not played. Akron has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BGSU.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

(01-26-2011 10:51 PM)mollautt Wrote:  =>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/26/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-5) @ 5. Miami (3-2)$ – TBA
GM 2: 11. Akron (2-4)# @ 6. WMU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 3: 10. Ohio (2-4)# @ 7. NIU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 4: 9. CMU (2-3)^ @ 8. EMU (2-3)^ – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BSU (5-0) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BGSU (4-2)* – East Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. Buffalo (4-2)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Kent (3-2)$ vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

$ Kent beat Miami head-2-head.

% WMU beat NIU head-2-head.

^ EMU beat CMU head-2-head.

# Ohio beat Akron head-2-head.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

EMU is 2-4 now, right?

(01-26-2011 10:53 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  EMU is 2-4 now, right?

=>Isn't that what I have?

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/27/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-5) @ 5. Buffalo(4-2)*& – TBA
GM 2: 11. CMU (2-4)#^ @ 6. WMU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 3: 10. Akron (2-4)#^ @ 7. NIU (3-3)% – TBA
GM 4: 9. EMU (2-4)# @ 8. Ohio (2-4)# – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BSU (5-1) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. Kent (4-2)*$ – East Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. BGSU (4-2)*$ vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Miami (4-2)*& vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Head-2-head, BGSU & Kent are 2-1 and Miami & Buffalo are 1-2.

$ Kent beat BGSU head-2-head.

& Miami beat Buffalo head-2-head.

% WMU beat NIU head-2-head.

# Head-2-head, Ohio is 2-0 EMU is 1-1, and CMU & Akron are 0-1.

^ Head-2-head, Akron & CMU have not played. Akron has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 Kent.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-01/30/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-6) @ 5. WMU(4-3)% – TBA
GM 2: 11. CMU (2-5)! @ 6. Miami (4-3)% – TBA
GM 3: 10. EMU (2-5)! @ 7. Ohio (3-4)#^ – TBA
GM 4: 9. Akron (3-4)# @ 8. NIU (3-4)#^ – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. Kent (5-2)*$ – East Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BSU (5-2)$ – West Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. BGSU (5-2)*& vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Buffalo (5-2)*& vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Head-2-head, BGSU, Kent, Buffalo are 1-1. Kent has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

$ Kent beat BSU head-2-head.

& BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

% WMU beat Miami head-2-head.

# Head-2-head, Ohio is 1-0 NIU is 1-0, and Akron are 0-2.

^ Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU have not played. Ohio has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

! EMU beat CMU head-2-head.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>By beating BSU 2nite, Miami switches seeds with WMU.

MAC Tourney If Today (Post-02/01/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-6) @ 5. Miami (5-3) – TBA
GM 2: 11. CMU (2-5)% @ 6. WMU (4-3) – TBA
GM 3: 10. EMU (2-5)% @ 7. Ohio (3-4)#^ – TBA
GM 4: 9. Akron (3-4)# @ 8. NIU (3-4)#^ – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. Kent (5-2)* – East Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BSU (5-3) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. BGSU (5-2)*$ vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Buffalo (5-2)*$ vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Head-2-head, BGSU, Kent, Buffalo are 1-1. Kent has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

$ BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

# Head-2-head, Ohio is 1-0 NIU is 1-0, and Akron are 0-2.

^ Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU have not played. Ohio has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

% EMU beat CMU head-2-head.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>Despite being idle due to a postponed game, Kent falls from the #1 seed 3 spots to #4. Buffalo, who was also idle due to a postponement, moves up from #4 to #3. :shock:

MAC Tourney If Today (Post-02/02/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-6) @ 5. Miami (5-3) – TBA
GM 2: 11. Akron (3-5)$ @ 6. WMU (4-3) – TBA
GM 3: 10. CMU (3-5)$% @ 7. Ohio (3-5)$# – TBA
GM 4: 9. EMU (3-5)$% @ 8. NIU (3-5)$# – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BGSU (6-2) – East Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BSU (5-3) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. Buffalo (5-2)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Kent (5-2)* vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Buffalo beat Kent head-2-head.

$ Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU are 2-1, CMU & EMU are 2-2, and Akron is 1-3.

# Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU have not played. Ohio has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

% EMU beat CMU head-2-head.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>Buffalo's win over Toledo yesterday resulted in no changes in the pairings/seedings.

MAC Tourney If Today (Post-02/03/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-7) @ 5. Miami (5-3) – TBA
GM 2: 11. Akron (3-5)$ @ 6. WMU (4-3) – TBA
GM 3: 10. CMU (3-5)$% @ 7. Ohio (3-5)$# – TBA
GM 4: 9. EMU (3-5)$% @ 8. NIU (3-5)$# – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. BGSU (6-2)* – East Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BSU (5-3) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. Buffalo (6-2)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Kent (5-2) vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* BGSU beat Buffalo head-2-head.

$ Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU are 2-1, CMU & EMU are 2-2, and Akron is 1-3.

# Head-2-head, Ohio & NIU have not played. Ohio has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #2 BSU.

% EMU beat CMU head-2-head.

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

=>MAC Tourney If Today (Post-02/05/11 games):

First Round (Campus Sites): Tuesday, March 8, 2011
GM 1: 12. Toledo (1-8) @ 5. Buffalo (6-3)* – TBA
GM 2: 11. EMU (3-6)#% @ 6. WMU (5-3) – TBA
GM 3: 10. NIU (3-6)#% @ 7. Ohio (4-5)$ – TBA
GM 4: 9. CMU (3-6)# @ 8. Akron (4-5)$ – TBA

Quarterfinals (Cleveland): Thursday, March 10, 2011
GM 5: 1. Kent (6-2) – East Champ vs. Winner GM 4 – 12:00pm (STO)
GM 6: 2. BSU (6-3) – West Champ vs. Winner GM 3 – 30 mins after end of GM 5 (approx 2:30pm) (STO)
GM 7: 3. BGSU (6-3)* vs. Winner GM 2 – 7:00pm (STO)
GM 8: 4. Miami (6-3)* vs. Winner GM 1 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Semifinals (Cleveland): Friday, March 11, 2011
GM 9: Winner GM 5 vs. Winner GM 8 – 7pm (STO)
GM 10: Winner GM 6 vs. Winner GM 7 – 30 mins after end of GM 7 (approx 9:30pm) (STO)

Finals (Cleveland): Saturday, March 12, 2011
GM 11: Winner GM 9 vs. Winner GM 10 – 6:00pm (ESPN2)

* Head-2-head, BGSU is 2-0, Miami is 1-1, and Buffalo is 0-2.

$ Ohio beat Akron head-2-head..

# Head-2-head, EMU, CMU, and NIU are all 1-1. CMU has best winning % vs. highest ranked opponent -> #7 Ohio.

% NIU beat EMU head-2-head

MAC Tiebreaker Information:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?S...LID=741859

Tourney Front Page:

http://mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D...R_CONTENT=

Tourney Bracket:

https://admin.xosn.com/downloads2/398514...EM_ID=9400

According to the MAC tourney front page, Buffalo and Ball State did not play yesterday.

Actually, quite a few changes: KSU moved from 4th to 1st, BG moved from 1st to 3rd, Miami moved from 5th to 4th, and UB moved from 3rd to 5th. I believe 11 teams (except BSU) changed seeding spots from Sat. morning to today.

But who's counting!

(02-06-2011 12:22 PM)axeme Wrote:  Actually, quite a few changes: KSU moved from 4th to 1st, BG moved from 1st to 3rd, Miami moved from 5th to 4th, and UB moved from 3rd to 5th. I believe 11 teams (except BSU) changed seeding spots from Sat. morning to today.

But who's counting!

Ummm, I don't think Toledo's seeding changed, after their 41 point offensive explosion against the Zips, at home nonetheless.