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Amazingoffseason in MAC football - Coaches
The MAC has hired -3- COORDINATORS from -3- BCS teams, Florida,Mich St, WISC and hired an Asst HC from Ohio St. That is IMPRESSIVE. All -4- coaches are from POWERHOUSES. This is really a compliment from the "big boys" to the MAC as to the quality of football we play.

Oh, BTW Ball St hired someone...05-stirthepot
12-31-2010 03:55 PM
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(12-31-2010 03:55 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  The MAC has hired -3- COORDINATORS from -3- BCS teams, Florida,Mich St, WISC and hired an Asst HC from Ohio St. That is IMPRESSIVE. All -4- coaches are from POWERHOUSES. This is really a compliment from the "big boys" to the MAC as to the quality of football we play.

Oh, BTW Ball St hired someone...05-stirthepot

I take issue with your premise. It has nothing to do with attitudes of the big boys but rather an opportunity for a B10/11/12 assistant to take control of a program at a lower level and become a HC.

My contention is that usually, those hires, especially from the B10 haven't worked out all that well. There are some exceptions, like Hoke, true.

We'll see with Miami's hire of an alum that played in the league. BTW, our HC Cubit was an OC at several of BCS schools before getting the job at Western.
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These BCS schools are using us as a proving ground. Win at a MAC school and you can win anywhere. Then when we eventually fire our coach, we can bring you back.

We are being used and we like it.

This is the formula of the BCS. Why can't we adapt that formula and do the same thing with FCS schools becoming proving grounds for our coordinators? Flip this thing on its head.
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RE: Amazingoffseason in MAC football - Coaches
How idiotic is that statement?

This is about INDIVIDUALS, not schools. Individuals that wish to move up the ladder will look seriously at any job opening.

You could make your statement about any non-BCS league. It still wouldn't make it true.
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(12-31-2010 04:51 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  How idiotic is that statement?

Just about as idiotic as NIU05's statement about the Ball State hire. But not quite.
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EDIT from above: I did not realize that Beckman, Clawson and Haywood were all coordinators at Ok State,Tenn, & Norte Dame. I have been so use to Novak/Kill that I missed the pedigrees entering the MAC.

Of all the coordinator/coaches hired I liked Clawson's background the best. He was the Tenn Off coordinator and a highly successful HC @ Richmond. BTW, I like the way he has been recruiting last year and this years class are LOADED with huge OLIneman. You must have the hogs upfront for any chance of winning.
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(12-31-2010 04:16 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  These BCS schools are using us as a proving ground. Win at a MAC school and you can win anywhere. Then when we eventually fire our coach, we can bring you back.

We are being used and we like it.

This is the formula of the BCS. Why can't we adapt that formula and do the same thing with FCS schools becoming proving grounds for our coordinators? Flip this thing on its head.

I don't have an answer or rule for BCS coordinator vs. FCS HC hire decision, but to counterbalance the notion that the BCS, actually our MAC HCs, are using us as stepping stones to BCS HC jobs, the only answer is the buyout clause.

MAC contracts should include (they should work in concert):

1). Provide heavy incentives for things like MAC West or East champion, MAC champion, bowl games, bowl game wins, conferences wins (say 6 or more), top 25 rankings, etc.

2). Heavy but fair buyout clause (early termination) - decline in value as the contract ages.

How would they work 'in concert'?

Bad example (now), but someone like Haywood should have had enough incentives in his contract to say add 100K to his '10 salary.

Add that to a say 2 year salary buyout clause (he was in the 2nd year of his contract with MIA), and it would have incentives to keep some of these young up and coming HCs.

OR better yet, see what Boise does with their coaches and try to emulate it.

Schools like Boise, TCU, Gonzaga and Butler (hoops), etc are finding ways to keep their coaches so MAC should try as well.

MAC needs to find a way to minimize these coaches who stay for two years and then move up leaving our schools holding the bag.
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