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RE: New Basketball Polls are out (AP and Coaches Poll)
(12-27-2010 10:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 08:42 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I'm sure that has something to do with it. Obviously, UC doesn't feel as strongly about scheduling now that Huggs is no longer in charge of the Bearcats...

well...yes and no. You have to remember when Huggs was here we were in the Great Midwest (not a bad little conference sending 4 teams out of 7 one year to the ncaa) and CUSA and so despite both conferences having great teams at the top (UC, UofL, Marquette, Memphis, Charlotte) the bottom was dreadful so Huggs always played a really good OOC schedule against teams like Maryland, Zona, Cal, you name it. As part of the BE we just don't need a bunch of really tough "bcs" games ooc.

Now, having said that, this year's ooc is just horrid...even for the Big East Bearcats and Mick Cronin. Although in his defense he didn't know Oklahoma, Xavier, and Dayton would be so bad this year. Those three are normally pretty good.

Ugh. UC's scheduling is 100% about not being able to get into a free out of town pre-season tournament this season and not having the money to schedule better teams. You schedule IPFW and their $65,000 contract versus Valpraiso and their $135-$140,000 contract. Instead of paying big bucks for a one and done deal with Cleveland State, you reach out to other in-state programs like Miami of Ohio, Toledo, and Wright State for 2-1 deals that give you free games this year.

Don't spin it any other way. UC's schedule is purely the result of economics and one of the tightest budgets in the Big East.
12-28-2010 05:24 AM
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RE: New Basketball Polls are out (AP and Coaches Poll)
(12-28-2010 05:24 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 10:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 08:42 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I'm sure that has something to do with it. Obviously, UC doesn't feel as strongly about scheduling now that Huggs is no longer in charge of the Bearcats...

well...yes and no. You have to remember when Huggs was here we were in the Great Midwest (not a bad little conference sending 4 teams out of 7 one year to the ncaa) and CUSA and so despite both conferences having great teams at the top (UC, UofL, Marquette, Memphis, Charlotte) the bottom was dreadful so Huggs always played a really good OOC schedule against teams like Maryland, Zona, Cal, you name it. As part of the BE we just don't need a bunch of really tough "bcs" games ooc.

Now, having said that, this year's ooc is just horrid...even for the Big East Bearcats and Mick Cronin. Although in his defense he didn't know Oklahoma, Xavier, and Dayton would be so bad this year. Those three are normally pretty good.

Ugh. UC's scheduling is 100% about not being able to get into a free out of town pre-season tournament this season and not having the money to schedule better teams. You schedule IPFW and their $65,000 contract versus Valpraiso and their $135-$140,000 contract. Instead of paying big bucks for a one and done deal with Cleveland State, you reach out to other in-state programs like Miami of Ohio, Toledo, and Wright State for 2-1 deals that give you free games this year.

Don't spin it any other way. UC's schedule is purely the result of economics and one of the tightest budgets in the Big East.

That is true, the economics matter. UC has lost money, compared to the Huggs years, in basketball and scheduling will reflect that. Nonetheless if
Oklahoma, Xavier are top 15 and Dayton is top 30 critics praise the scheduling.
12-28-2010 06:00 AM
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(12-27-2010 11:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 06:54 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  If UCF remains a CUSA power, they won't remain in CUSA long. They may not remain long now as it is...

UCF SOS=232

That SOS is BS lol. UCF beat Florida, Miami, and UMASS already
12-28-2010 08:17 AM
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RE: New Basketball Polls are out (AP and Coaches Poll)
(12-28-2010 08:17 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 11:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-27-2010 06:54 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  If UCF remains a CUSA power, they won't remain in CUSA long. They may not remain long now as it is...

UCF SOS=232

That SOS is BS lol. UCF beat Florida, Miami, and UMASS already

It's not BS at all. The played two decent teams, and a middling A10 team in UMass. The rest of their schedule consists of directional Florida schools that are at the bottom of D-I.
12-28-2010 11:28 PM
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RE: New Basketball Polls are out (AP and Coaches Poll)
JHG, if you're talking about an expansion candidate school that isn't Temple - it's BS...
12-29-2010 09:36 AM
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