Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

(12-23-2010 10:47 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

Who can disagree with that logic? Sure he has the right. That's why he's the coach and we're the fans.

(12-23-2010 10:47 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

No doubt that is the head coach's decision, not the fans. And no doubt the buck stops with him. However, we have an assistant who played 15 years in the NBA and an assistant who has coached for well over 30 years at programs all across the country. I don't see Steve being a "dictator", and believe he is very open to the input of the coaches on his staff. So all I'm suggesting is that player evaluations are based on input from the entire coaching staff and so its not just on Steve when certain players play or don't play.

(12-23-2010 11:00 AM)mjs Wrote:  No doubt that is the head coach's decision, not the fans. And no doubt the buck stops with him. However, we have an assistant who played 15 years in the NBA and an assistant who has coached for well over 30 years at programs all across the country. I don't see Steve being a "dictator", and believe he is very open to the input of the coaches on his staff. So all I'm suggesting is that player evaluations are based on input from the entire coaching staff and so its not just on Steve when certain players play or don't play.

The reference to "assistant coaches and the noose", was about firing assistants at UALR when Shields has bad years, instead of the head coach. Now, if I were an assistant at UALR, my butthole would be drawing up toward the end of these bad seasons.

(12-23-2010 11:00 AM)mjs Wrote:  

(12-23-2010 10:47 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

No doubt that is the head coach's decision, not the fans. And no doubt the buck stops with him. However, we have an assistant who played 15 years in the NBA and an assistant who has coached for well over 30 years at programs all across the country. I don't see Steve being a "dictator", and believe he is very open to the input of the coaches on his staff. So all I'm suggesting is that player evaluations are based on input from the entire coaching staff and so its not just on Steve when certain players play or don't play.

I have no idea how that goes down. Either way, the coach or staff certainly has the right to play whomever they wish. It's their jobs on the line.

(12-23-2010 11:24 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  I have no idea how that goes down. Either way, the coach or staff certainly has the right to play whomever they wish. It's their jobs on the line.

Not to mention that they see what goes on at practice, and we do not.

(12-23-2010 11:37 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  

(12-23-2010 11:24 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  I have no idea how that goes down. Either way, the coach or staff certainly has the right to play whomever they wish. It's their jobs on the line.

Not to mention that they see what goes on at practice, and we do not.

Well whose fault is it that we can't watch practices anymore?

(12-23-2010 11:43 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  Well whose fault is it that we can't watch practices anymore?

I would love to see them, but I don't know enough about the mechanics of the game that I would be able to evaluate anything, anyway.

(12-23-2010 11:08 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(12-23-2010 11:00 AM)mjs Wrote:  No doubt that is the head coach's decision, not the fans. And no doubt the buck stops with him. However, we have an assistant who played 15 years in the NBA and an assistant who has coached for well over 30 years at programs all across the country. I don't see Steve being a "dictator", and believe he is very open to the input of the coaches on his staff. So all I'm suggesting is that player evaluations are based on input from the entire coaching staff and so its not just on Steve when certain players play or don't play.

The reference to "assistant coaches and the noose", was about firing assistants at UALR when Shields has bad years, instead of the head coach. Now, if I were an assistant at UALR, my butthole would be drawing up toward the end of these bad seasons.

I agree that if history is any guide, the assistants best watch out after a poor season, and sometimes after even a good season if the AD wants someone else. I don't believe for one minute that Shields is really the one who is ultimately responsible for choosing his staff. He may have some imput sure, but history has shown that it is Peterson who tells him who will be on his staff. And if you know anything about our AD, you know that there is not a whole lot of flexibility to ideas that are not his own.

(12-23-2010 10:47 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

A good point about player rotation. Ever notice how Shields seems to pull a player when he's hot! My friend and I both joke about it during games but it's not funny. There is such a thing as too much rotation.

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That's something that most of us have been talking about for years now. I have never seen a coach sub out players that are in a zone and hot unless they raised their hands to be pulled. That is until Shields start coaching. I'm sure he has some logic to do this.

(12-23-2010 07:56 PM)RichHick Wrote:  

(12-23-2010 10:47 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  Even though some of us often disagree with Steve, or any other coach for that matter, on his player rotations, and how he uses them, it's got to be his decision on who he plays, and how much. I'll grant him that much anyway. That's the way it has to be. It's his neck in the noose, and he's the one that may lose his job. Although I don't believe they have a noose at UALR for basketball coaches, unless they're assistants.

As I have said for some time, I no longer support Steve as the coach, but I support his right to play who he thinks can best help him win.

A good point about player rotation. Ever notice how Shields seems to pull a player when he's hot! My friend and I both joke about it during games but it's not funny. There is such a thing as too much rotation.

I hate it but this year we are running and pressing. in years past we played grinderball and rotated like we were putting 40 minutes of hell on folks.

Well whose fault is it that we can't watch practices anymore?
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You don't really want to hear the answer to that.

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Well whose fault is it that we can't watch practices anymore?
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Honestly? I laughed when I read this.