(12-05-2010 05:38 PM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 05:11 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  BC average football attendance, 2003: 42,604
BC average football attendance, 2010: 38,369

2011 home opponents: Northwestern, Wake Forest, Duke, UMass, NC State, Florida State. Good seats now available.

Do you honestly think BC fans are upset that they're missing out on playing Louisville, South Florida, Cincinnati and soon to be TCU? They have zero history with those schools either.

From the looks of how their attendance has dropped, it doesn't look like BC fans are very excited about playing teams in the ACC either.
CJ

(12-06-2010 09:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 05:38 PM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 05:11 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  BC average football attendance, 2003: 42,604
BC average football attendance, 2010: 38,369

2011 home opponents: Northwestern, Wake Forest, Duke, UMass, NC State, Florida State. Good seats now available.

Do you honestly think BC fans are upset that they're missing out on playing Louisville, South Florida, Cincinnati and soon to be TCU? They have zero history with those schools either.

From the looks of how their attendance has dropped, it doesn't look like BC fans are very excited about playing teams in the ACC either.
CJ

Savage seldom lets facts get in the way when defending his ACC, even to the point that he quotes something that contradicts the point he's making

(12-06-2010 09:31 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(12-06-2010 09:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 05:38 PM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 05:11 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  BC average football attendance, 2003: 42,604
BC average football attendance, 2010: 38,369

2011 home opponents: Northwestern, Wake Forest, Duke, UMass, NC State, Florida State. Good seats now available.

Do you honestly think BC fans are upset that they're missing out on playing Louisville, South Florida, Cincinnati and soon to be TCU? They have zero history with those schools either.

From the looks of how their attendance has dropped, it doesn't look like BC fans are very excited about playing teams in the ACC either.
CJ

Savage seldom lets facts get in the way when defending his ACC, even to the point that he quotes something that contradicts the point he's making

Who's to say that BC attendance would have stayed steady had they remained in the Big East? Like most cases with attendance drops, it declines when the team does. BC has gone downhill on the field since they promoted Spaziani to head coach. Attendance has certainly suffered as a result.

The overall point though is that Big East fans' obsession with BC continues even though it's been over 7 years since they announced they were going to the ACC.

(12-06-2010 09:42 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  Who's to say that BC attendance would have stayed steady had they remained in the Big East? Like most cases with attendance drops, it declines when the team does. BC has gone downhill on the field since they promoted Spaziani to head coach. Attendance has certainly suffered as a result.

The overall point though is that Big East fans' obsession with BC continues even though it's been over 7 years since they announced they were going to the ACC.

Big East fans obsession with BC? Yet you take a slap at UofL, UC and USF. Honestly I don't give to sh*ts about the Eagles. What I do care about is your constant badgering of The Big East. Case in point the above comment.

Truth is BC's record average record since joining the ACC 9-3. Their average record for the same time period. The 6 years before joining the ACC while playing in The Big East is 8-4. So in reality BC football has got better since joining the ACC. So your comment about BC fans not showing up because of their on the field performance doesn' hold water.
Try again,
CJ

(12-06-2010 09:42 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  The overall point though is that Big East fans' obsession with BC continues even though it's been over 7 years since they announced they were going to the ACC.

I couldn't agree with you more there.

BC won 11 games in 2007

9 games in 2008

8 games in 2009

7 games in 2010

Looks like a decline to me. No surprise that attendance will suffer as a result.

Big East fans do obsess about BC. This post is proof positive of that. UConn fans crowing about their BCS berth can't help but mention BC.

I wouldn't mind seeing BC come back. But I don't obsess over them either. I must admit that I do delight in their misery, whenever they experience some. But I've done that for as long as I can remember. So there's no change there...

(12-06-2010 10:37 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  BC won 11 games in 2007

9 games in 2008

8 games in 2009

7 games in 2010

Looks like a decline to me. No surprise that attendance will suffer as a result.

Big East fans do obsess about BC. This post is proof positive of that. UConn fans crowing about their BCS berth can't help but mention BC.

Thanks for the clarification. I understand your point now. I just don't believe all Big East fans obsess over BC. Most Louisville fans don't care anymore or less about BC than they do any other team in the ACC other than Miami. If Louisville fans could have any team back in The Big East it would be the 'Canes. We have had some great football, basketball and baseball series with them. Would love to see that continue.
CJ

When MS talks about BEast fans, CJ, I think he's referring to the old guard BEast schools. The old eastern indies...

(12-06-2010 11:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  When MS talks about BEast fans, CJ, I think he's referring to the old guard BEast schools. The old eastern indies...

Thanks Bit ,
That makes sense.
CJ

(12-06-2010 01:44 AM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2010 12:32 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Eagle I know many BC fans and alumni thanks to my family ties to Boston and one of my best friends going to school at BC. You're the first that genuinely likes the ACC better from the fan perspective. They all wish BC was still playing a conference schedule with Syracuse, UConn, WVU, Rutgers, Pitt and even Temple on it.

Brista, if I had a nickel for every person from the BE who claims they know BC fans that would rather be in the BE...well, you know.
I have been a season ticket holder since the 1980's, belong to two alumni associations, and cross paths at one time or other with hundreds of alumni each year at meetings, functions, tailgates, etc. The overwhleming majority are very happy in the ACC. Oh, sure, some do miss the MSG BE BB Tourney; but that is it. Last year, 7,500 fans made the trip to Charlotsville to see BC play Virginia and about 5,000 traveled to the Maryland game.

Any BC fan would not miss playing Uconn. While I know a number of good Uconn fans, I have to say we only played them a couple of times; and the one time at the Rent, BC fans were treated horribly. (Beer bottles hurled at studnt busses, f-bombs raining down on BC families) I was there and saw it. The fan experience at WVU for BC fans was not much better. Its kind of lousy when you cannot wear your BC gear to an away game due to a real concern for your personal safety.

Regarding Rutgers, the fans were much better but those games weren't very appealing to BC fans as they were very one sided the years we played them (I think BC was something like 12-1-1 against Rutgers in BE play.) Temple? You have to be kidding! The one team BC did miss playing - Syracuse - is back on the schedule for a long-term series.

Virtually every year BC has been in the ACC, it has broken records for annual alumni donations to the Flynn Fund. This past year, the alumni donation to BC athletics topped $27M...thats more than double what it was in the BE. As with anything else, money talks!

Eagle fan - I totally understand BC made the financial decision to leave the BE. It might not be good for the fans, but it is good for school's future.

As for UCONN going to the BCS before the Eagles. All I got to say is It does not matter how we got there, we are there that's all it matters. ACC had no issues sending 4 loss teams to the BCS so why can't the BE? As for that 11-1 or 12-0 record, I am 100% confidence UCONN will get that before BC too in the near future.

I disagree with UCONN and WVU fans taking out their frustration against the Eagle fans. Their anger should be at BC's admin for backstabbing the BE. However, there are some serious genuine hate there between UCONN and BC fanbase and that's never going to go away.

Finally, I really don't care if BC ever comes back to the BE. Frankly, I rather see UMASS upgrade than seeing BC back. I do believe their future is brighter if they adopt the UCONN plan to go to big time football.

i don't give two sh about BC.....never have never will.

(12-05-2010 11:56 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  "Oh they are stinging. Trust me. UCONN will get there again before the Eagles even after this season. We have a great athletic program.

Yeah they can brag about money all they want, but at end of the days for fans it is about wins and losses on the field. Besides, Texas and ND will always have that argument won each time. "

First of all...congratulatons to Uconn. The above statement, however, is ridiculous. Uconn got to the BCS by winning the BE. But they ARE an 8-4 team. BC fans understand how this game is played with the AQ and Uconn should be congratulated because they have found a way to make the bowl, unlike BC who has come close several times. We recognize it for what it is. But come on, its not like Uconn was an 11-1 or 10-2 team that has emerged as the beast of the East. If Uconn fans want to delude themselves about this, that's fine. We feel differently, thats all.

BC's fanbase is VERY happy in the ACC. BC has what it has wanted - an all-sports conference with maximum financial security. The comments about BC playing rivals is not accurate. BC IS playing its rival from the BE days - Syracuse. They were the only true rival we had. As far as new rivals - Clemson has emerged as a budding rival. Both fanbases have meshed well and the game each year is anticipated by both schools. ND also remains on the schedule long term.

Neil, in his post, nailed it. BC's fanbase has moved on. Many BC fans wish others would as well. I would much rather chat about the upcoming BE vs. ACC bowl tilts instead of seeing these continued "I wonder if BC wishes they were back in the BE" posts. We don't..and you guys don't want us back anyways. With the arrival of TCU and the comments today from the B10, I think the BE has stabilized itself. Everyone is where they want to be which is good

We are looking forward to our bowl in SF in January. We play a one loss Nevada team that is ranked #11 in the country. Sure, not a BCS, but not a bad bowl either - especially for a very young team (with true freshman throughout the two deep - including the starting QB, both wide receivers, LB, and running back at the end of the season) that everybody had given up for dead when they were 2-5.

Cheers

are you the same guy that said umass boston plays college football?

(12-05-2010 11:56 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  The comments about BC playing rivals is not accurate. BC IS playing its rival from the BE days - Syracuse. They were the only true rival we had. As far as new rivals - Clemson has emerged as a budding rival.

Clemson? Nothing says "rivalry" like BC-Clemson.

(12-06-2010 02:19 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 11:56 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  The comments about BC playing rivals is not accurate. BC IS playing its rival from the BE days - Syracuse. They were the only true rival we had. As far as new rivals - Clemson has emerged as a budding rival.

Clemson? Nothing says "rivalry" like BC-Clemson.

Had BC played UCONN every year in football, it could become a real rivalry. However, they only played like twice so there is nothing there.

We all know about basketball. UCONN beat them 30 out 32 times they played. UCONN women dominated their women's program too so those are not rivalries either.

BC is truly on an island all by itself. I think Clemson would never consider BC a rival. All ACC schools don't. Clemson got far more heated rivalry with South Carolina.

Cuse did BC a favor by scheduling a series with them. Without this series, BC truly got nothing in the Northeast.

(12-06-2010 02:19 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 11:56 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  The comments about BC playing rivals is not accurate. BC IS playing its rival from the BE days - Syracuse. They were the only true rival we had. As far as new rivals - Clemson has emerged as a budding rival.

Clemson? Nothing says "rivalry" like BC-Clemson.

Yet no doubt in 3-4 years we will have posters on this board proclaiming that TCU-WVU or TCU-Pitt are "rivalries".

(12-06-2010 02:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(12-06-2010 02:19 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(12-05-2010 11:56 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  The comments about BC playing rivals is not accurate. BC IS playing its rival from the BE days - Syracuse. They were the only true rival we had. As far as new rivals - Clemson has emerged as a budding rival.

Clemson? Nothing says "rivalry" like BC-Clemson.

Had BC played UCONN every year in football, it could become a real rivalry. However, they only played like twice so there is nothing there.

We all know about basketball. UCONN beat them 30 out 32 times they played. UCONN women dominated their women's program too so those are not rivalries either.

BC is truly on an island all by itself. I think Clemson would never consider BC a rival. All ACC schools don't. Clemson got far more heated rivalry with South Carolina.

Cuse did BC a favor by scheduling a series with them. Without this series, BC truly got nothing in the Northeast.

i'm playing cards fri w/ some bc alums that have season tickets, i know one of them prefers the big east...

I am amused by BC. They are looked down upon by everybody in the ACC, and they get screwed over regularly when it comes bowl selection time. They are being eclipsed on the national stage by UCONN. I'm sure it would be news to any Clemson fan that they have a "rivalry" with BC.

If Big East fans have an "obsession" with BC, then I guess we have alot of obsessions... if discussing a topic is an "obsession", that is. How long has it been since Penn State went to the Big 10? How long was it that Joe Pa discussed an Eastern league that never happened - 30 years ago? And yet those topics still come up. Miami, and their pitiful fan support and general decline, is a topic that comes up from time to time... I guess we're still obsessed with Miami, too.

Most Big East fans (especially those who were previously in the league with BC) will continue to be amused by BC's ongoing irrelevance, and the fact that they are collectively gnashing their teeth in response to UCONN's ongoing rise as a program - even as they pretend that it doesn't bother them in the slightest.

BC is awesome at hockey.

Gee, I could of had a V-8.