You fire the football coach because he didn't win enough to suit you, but then you turn around and hire someone on the staff who didn't win enough to suit you. Going back, they fired Nelson Catalina and hired Dickie Nutt, who was his assistant. Do I detect a pattern here? If I'm an AD, and I'm not satisfied with what a coaching staff is doing and I decide to make a change, then I'm sure as heck not going to hire one of the assistants. I'd bring in a new coach and let him hire his own assistants. It's different if your coach has been successful and he leaves for a bigger job, and you have a qualified assistant to carry on the winning tradition. But firing a coach for losing, and then hiring someone else on the same staff? That's just stupid.

(12-04-2010 01:15 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  You fire the football coach because he didn't win enough to suit you, but then you turn around and hire someone on the staff who didn't win enough to suit you. Going back, they fired Nelson Catalina and hired Dickie Nutt, who was his assistant. Do I detect a pattern here? If I'm an AD, and I'm not satisfied with what a coaching staff is doing and I decide to make a change, then I'm sure as heck not going to hire one of the assistants. I'd bring in a new coach and let him hire his own assistants. It's different if your coach has been successful and he leaves for a bigger job, and you have a qualified assistant to carry on the winning tradition. But firing a coach for losing, and then hiring someone else on the same staff? That's just stupid.

Maybe their AD took the same class on hiring head coaches that Chris took.

(12-04-2010 04:36 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 01:15 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  You fire the football coach because he didn't win enough to suit you, but then you turn around and hire someone on the staff who didn't win enough to suit you. Going back, they fired Nelson Catalina and hired Dickie Nutt, who was his assistant. Do I detect a pattern here? If I'm an AD, and I'm not satisfied with what a coaching staff is doing and I decide to make a change, then I'm sure as heck not going to hire one of the assistants. I'd bring in a new coach and let him hire his own assistants. It's different if your coach has been successful and he leaves for a bigger job, and you have a qualified assistant to carry on the winning tradition. But firing a coach for losing, and then hiring someone else on the same staff? That's just stupid.

Maybe their AD took the same class on hiring head coaches that Chris took.

I agree with you on the first one but this hire is different, we only had Freeze for less than a year and he really changed our offense around. We went from like 90th to 45th in the nation. He's won at everything he has done. time will tell but I think it's a great hire.

(12-04-2010 05:08 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 04:36 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 01:15 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  You fire the football coach because he didn't win enough to suit you, but then you turn around and hire someone on the staff who didn't win enough to suit you. Going back, they fired Nelson Catalina and hired Dickie Nutt, who was his assistant. Do I detect a pattern here? If I'm an AD, and I'm not satisfied with what a coaching staff is doing and I decide to make a change, then I'm sure as heck not going to hire one of the assistants. I'd bring in a new coach and let him hire his own assistants. It's different if your coach has been successful and he leaves for a bigger job, and you have a qualified assistant to carry on the winning tradition. But firing a coach for losing, and then hiring someone else on the same staff? That's just stupid.

Maybe their AD took the same class on hiring head coaches that Chris took.

I agree with you on the first one but this hire is different, we only had Freeze for less than a year and he really changed our offense around. We went from like 90th to 45th in the nation. He's won at everything he has done. time will tell but I think it's a great hire.

Personally I think ASU was "Blindsided".

(12-04-2010 07:12 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  Personally I think ASU was "Blindsided".

Explain please.

(12-04-2010 08:50 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 07:12 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  Personally I think ASU was "Blindsided".

Explain please.

Hugh Freeze was Michael Oher's high school coach. Coach Freeze bears very little resemblance to the movie version.

(12-05-2010 12:01 AM)hb8 Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 08:50 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(12-04-2010 07:12 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  Personally I think ASU was "Blindsided".

Explain please.

Hugh Freeze was Michael Oher's high school coach. Coach Freeze bears very little resemblance to the movie version.

Michael Oher. The young man that the movie "Blindside" was based on. He not plays for the Baltimore Ravens. Great movie by the way.