right now it looks like Syc & Kansas St in NY
If Tex & ND are at-large, your going to need intirguing matchups to get them intrested
One would be BYU in Las Vagas
if Tex goes to LV, ND might be intrested in Detriot vs Mia[O], ND would give the acadamics spin.
If Boise & TCU get BCS bowl berths, i could see ND-Tex in NM
Birmingham might have 2 spots open, would they play in Legion field
Kraft bowl vs Frenso is played 1-9-11, that alot of extra practice time

WOW, Temple ranked 32 in BCS, one spot ahead of Fla.
who would have ever thunk it

(11-16-2010 03:02 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-16-2010 02:05 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I had forgotten about the Bulls game with Miami when I wrote that, quo. You may have noticed that already from a post in another thread, where I gave the Bulls credit for that game...

I'm old, and have a randomly selective memory due to numerous knocks on the noggin. Shoot me...

Nope, hadn't noticed the other thread. In any event, hopefully we'll both win out so we'll get to see who is ranked higher.

That we will. But the Bulls got to win out first. So does WVU...

(11-15-2010 12:37 AM)snowycuse Wrote:  Sorry it has been a long time...

If Syracuse is fortunate enough to beat Uconn and Pitt/WVU get the BCS bid is their a scenario in which Syracuse could turn down the Champs and Meineke Car Care bowl to get to the Pinstripe Bowl? I am not sure if you are allowed to turn down bowl bids to get to a preferred bowl or not but I think Syracuse in their continuing effort to become the college team of New York City would probably like to land in that game.

I have a feeling the bowls have all sorts of side deals going on so they will try and help each other if they can. Of course when it comes to Notre Dame, every bowl that could would select them so they would definately be the number one selection of any bowl that could select them. As much as I would like to see Syracuse (assuming we do not get the BCS bid) play Texas in the PinStripe bowl, I do not see any bowl that could select Texas pass on them. They would bring a lot of fans to whatever bowl selects them so they would not be coming to New York.

(11-16-2010 04:01 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  WOW, Temple ranked 32 in BCS, one spot ahead of Fla.
who would have ever thunk it

Not anymore.

Didn't SU/UT play in that 1960 NC game (Cotton Bowl, was it?)

(11-16-2010 01:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-16-2010 12:05 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  If WVU wins out, they'll be ranked....USF .... I don't know...

I'm not sure why. USF and WVU are both 6-3 right now, and looking at the remaining schedules, we both play Pitt, WVU plays Rutgers and UofL while we play Uconn and Miami.

Between them, Miami is the only "big name" or ranked team on either schedule, so USF is likely to get a lot more boost out of winning that game than WVU will get from winning any of theirs ...

Well if USF and WVU both win out that would hand Pitt two losses and if Cuse beats Uconn give Syracuse the BCS crown as we own the head-to-head tie breaker over both WVU and USF. I'll root for that...lol.

If Miami loses to the Bulls they'll have 4 (or 5 - VT is this weekend) losses. That would take a lot of the luster off Miami's season. It's been a strange year. Why change anything now?

Here is an article that OrangeEyes posted on the Cuse Scout Board by Mitch Vingle of the Charleston Gazette. It has some very good info about ND and the Champs Bowl:



November 16, 2010
Checking on ND and bowl,
'TIS THE season, you know.
By Mitch Vingle
The Charleston Gazette

'TIS THE season, you know.

The season of Thanksgiving, Christmas shopping and Notre Dame following.

Happens every year around this time. Because the Fighting Irish are bowl partners with the Big East, fans of the conference's teams suddenly remember the setup, hop on their computers and punch up Notre Dame's record. If it's worthy of a bowl, there is outcry.

Well, this year the leprechauns of Brian Kelly are 5-5. They need one win to qualify for a bowl. They play host to 6-4 Army Saturday before visiting USC, now 7-3, to complete the regular season. Notre Dame is an 8-1/2 point favorite against the Black Knights this week.

I can hear the groans now from New York state to Tampa, Fla. If your team doesn't win the Big East title and, thus, the league's BCS bowl berth, it will tumble past Orlando's Champs Sports Bowl and into the Meineke Car Care Bowl, aka the Tire Bowl, or below.

The reason?

(All together now.)

Every bowl wants Notre Dame.

Fear not, though, Big East acolytes. The Champs Sports Bowl will almost certainly go to a league team, and if WVU wins a couple more games, it, with such a strong bowl following, will be a very strong contender.

Here's the deal: The Big East champ goes to a BCS bowl, most likely the Fiesta Bowl, which has the last at-large pick, against the Big 12 champ (think Nebraska, Oklahoma or Oklahoma State). After that, the Orlando bowl gets the pick. Then you get into the land of Meineke, New Era Pinstripe, BBVA Compass, Beef O'Brady's and AutoZone Liberty bowls.

The Champs Sports Bowl can grab Notre Dame instead of a Big East team once every four years. Unlike some past bowl contracts, there is no two-win separation rule.

So, you reason, that points to the Champs grabbing the Irish, right?

"No,'' said bowl CEO Steve Hogan on Tuesday. "The only way we'd look at a 6-6 Notre Dame team is if the other available Big East teams are 6-6.

"We're hoping for a nine-game or eight-game winner. I don't see any possible way we'd take a 6-6 [Notre Dame] team. Obviously, if they run the table, they'd be on our board at 7-5. But Syracuse, South Florida and West Virginia all have the chance to get nine wins.

"We really like to look at a team that deserves to be there."

Refreshing, no? OK, OK. But here's where I must tell the rest of the story, as Paul Harvey used to say. According to Big East associate commissioner John Paquette, Notre Dame has to be 7-5 in order to play in the bowl. He says it's in the contract.

Kind of spoils this from Hogan.

"At 6-6 we're not going to take them regardless of who they are," he said of the Irish. "It doesn't matter if it's Notre Dame, West Virginia, Syracuse or anybody. We want a winning team in Orlando."

Regardless of the 7-5 rule, though, it really did sound like Hogan wants the best available team. It didn't sound like other bowl presidents I've interviewed that almost drooled over the Irish.
"Look," Hogan said, "we've got a four-year contract. Somewhere we'll probably get a good look at Notre Dame. We want a team, though, in which I can look the athletic director in the eye and say, 'You deserve to be here.' "