(11-02-2010 05:56 PM)uofl05 Wrote:  You all just dont have the potential to be a great football program,or the support.

That is utterly absurd, and our basketbal resume is fine, thank you very much.

I think my preference would be TCU and ECU

tcu and ucf for me, then possibly nova and houston a few yrs later

(11-02-2010 06:06 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  tcu and ucf for me, then possibly nova and houston a few yrs later

Not that anyone's asking me, but my choices would be:

TCU
ECU
UCF

then the 4th to make 12 wouldn't include Nova, but any of Houston, Memphis, or Temple I'd be fine with.





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Realistically, I think you guys (UCF) belong 4th. It seems that ECU isnt an option because of market size. I personally like them a lot though. I like their fanbase and i think theyd be more interesting to have around.

Relax though, things are looking pretty good for you guys right now. I hope you dont get in but i think you will.

Another Joe Shad tweet:
If the Big East goes west, TCU is a more likely option right now than Houston and don't expect conference to add both

I think in a vaccuum, if you lined up the teams without names and listed their qualifications (history, on field success in all sports, market size, attendance etc), the 2 best schools would be TCU then Houston. Followed by UCF. Assuming the conference doesnt want to add 2 Texas schools right away, i guess that would leave TCU and UCF as the 2 invites.

Is this not the same announcement that the Big 10 made this time last year with the exception of naming a time frame and number of teams? So I don't expect a public invite/acceptance until Feb/March with the March meeting being another big news day of at least announcing the 9th and 10th team.

I'm going with as what I think it will be, not necessarily what I want to happen: I do want TCU first, but after that.....

-TCU and UCF 9th and 10th (10/18 for 2012)
-With the option of Phase 2 for the 11th and 12th teams of Houston/Memphis/ECU/Temple and 11th-14th teams if Big 12 implodes (KU, KSU, Mizzou group) 12/20 or split in 2012.

(11-02-2010 05:31 PM)Joshua Wrote:  OMG!!!! SANDISS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

Probably talking to his father in law..or whoever his so called insider is...

(11-02-2010 06:20 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Is this not the same announcement that the Big 10 made this time last year with the exception of naming a time frame and number of teams? So I don't expect a public invite/acceptance until Feb/March with the March meeting being another big news day of at least announcing the 9th and 10th team.

I'm going with:
TCU and UCF 8th and 10th
with the option of Phase 2 for the 11th and 12th teams of Houston/Memphis/ECU/Temple and 11th-14th teams if Big 12 implodes (KU, KSU, Mizzou group)

You may be right but I interpreted this differently. I took it as the Presidents accepted the 10 team model and rejected the 12 team model. Everything may be finalized in December, pending Nova's decision. But I expect something legit by the end of the week, if I'm reading this right.

Don't matter what they approved football will have the majority at 10 and will be able to expand however they see fit moving forward.

im in the middle i think they accepted a 10 team model and said lets wait on the 12 team til we can further study $$ and candidates. tcu gets an invite now,in december nova decides or we add someone else

See this is the problem with the BE. Why did they mention a number? Just say that you will expand and are looking at a number of teams to add. Period. I guarantee you that once they go visit these schools they are going to have trouble narrowing it to 2.

I hope the Big East is smart enough to not take two Texas schools. Look at the crap that is going on with Texas politics and football. Imagine having two in the Big East? Too much of a headache. JUST TAKE 1!!!!

Dear potential candidates... please start kissing Marinatto's ass because he is waiting for a school to pucker up.

Anyways... here is my 3.

TCU
ECU/UCF (same ranking, no difference)

Next wave of expansion....
Kansas
Kansas St. / Mizzou / Iowa State

BB only school wants Big East to remain THE BEST Bball conference... by getting a national brand like Kansas will literally shut anyone up about ACC vs. Big East talks.

(11-02-2010 06:53 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  See this is the problem with the BE. Why did they mention a number? Just say that you will expand and are looking at a number of teams to add. Period. I guarantee you that once they go visit these schools they are going to have trouble narrowing it to 2.

I'm going to stick to my guns, I believe that the BE knows the direction is going and is going to act very quickly. Which explains why they put the number 10 out there.

I agree. They know who they want and they will act soon.

(11-02-2010 05:59 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Temple is more than welcome in CDOA. I would be happy to have them join us, since it looks like we will be here for a long time.

This.

My (few) cents

(11-02-2010 02:28 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  Oh wow, two teams... I'd have been more comfortable with adding four to get to a CCG, but better than nothing.

Please, no CCG for the Big East

(11-02-2010 03:54 PM)dogma Wrote:  

(11-02-2010 03:50 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(11-02-2010 03:29 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Wilkie, where other than on boards have you heard anything about Depaul an Seton leaving. I don't buy it at all.

here's the link on Marquette and Depaul
DePaul and Marquette

Umm..
Doesn't that article actually state the opposite?:

"One rumor to which there appeared to be zero credence before Tuesday and which the unanimous vote more or less quashes: That non-football-playing members such as DePaul and Marquette were in danger of being booted from the league."

LOL. Busted doing a search but not reading the article.

(11-02-2010 04:51 PM)Fan of Skully Wrote:  Just a couple of thoughts on TCU and Houston combo. If TCU is the gem in the expansion, would TCU want to have another TX school become BCS AQ to compete with for recruiting. And if this is just football only, would TCU need a travel partner?

Travel partners are for the member teams, not the new teams. UCF would be a real travel partner for USF. houston is 4 hours away from fort worth. That is not really a good travel partner.

(11-02-2010 05:22 PM)krux Wrote:  To me it makes since to go UCF and TCU right now and add Houston later. TCU fans have stated before that they like being the only Texas school in a conference so we shore up Florida now and use the next few years convincing TCU that Houston is a good idea.

TCU is most likely a no brainer top draft pick so to speak. But Houston is overrated IMO. They are not close enough to Fort Worth to be considered simply because of their proximity to TCU, nor is it likely to get a TV foothold for the Big East (I am not sure TCU is either, but they bring enough national cache and inject so much desperately needed juice in our lineup that you can overlook that). Now obviously Houston is worth evaluating, but for all of their recent "success," they still haven't finished in the top 25 in the last 20 years. And without on the field success, and their market size being cancelled out by poor market precense, they are no different than any other former SWC school. I mean at least SMU is close to TCU.

Based on available information, I would chose ECU over Houston, due to fan support, proximity to the core of the conference, and likelihood of finding a TV audience. But that is just me. Between ECU and UCF, ECU seems to be a little better in just about every comparable category, except those regarding geography and market size. But that trump card of location, market size, and proximity to eliminate USF's isolation is so powerful, that it moves them ahead. I would add Memphis before Houston, because while they are down now, Memphis has shown that they can draw a crowd in football, and they draw great crowds in basketball (and draw extremely high ratings).

Since JHG is around, I guess I should address Temple. IMO the Philadelphia market would be nice to have, especially if we do incorporate a Conference Network into our television plan (and get us off of ESPN3). However, Villanova's basketball presence in Philadelphia, combined with either ECU, UCF, or Houston (whichever is taking the place Temple may try to claim) would be worth far more in TV dollars than what Temple woudl add to the Philadelphia market in terms of football and added basketball exposure. And since market is ALL Temple has compared to the other teams, they are quickly eliminated from any discussion and become a sixth option at best, behind the four above mentioned teams and Villanova.