(11-01-2010 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  At this point ECU has done everything it is capable of doing to be ready. Expanded the stadium, filled the stadium, upgraded every single athletic facility, won back to back championships, so if it isn't enough then it never will be. It's as simple as that. We will have tough decisions to make if we get left behind again.

Annnd there it is. The real reason ECU fans are such jerks to UCF folks.

We all knew the fear of "being left behind again" was the motivator, it's just nice to see it in writing

(11-01-2010 12:19 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  At this point ECU has done everything it is capable of doing to be ready. Expanded the stadium, filled the stadium, upgraded every single athletic facility, won back to back championships, so if it isn't enough then it never will be. It's as simple as that. We will have tough decisions to make if we get left behind again.

Annnd there it is. The real reason ECU fans are such jerks to UCF folks.

We all knew the fear of "being left behind again" was the motivator, it's just nice to see it in writing

I can only speak for me, but I hate UCF fans because they are a bunch of punks who do nothing but run their traps and until Saturday had never done a thing to back up their talking. I personally hate any group that think they deserve something they haven't earned.

(11-01-2010 12:19 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  At this point ECU has done everything it is capable of doing to be ready. Expanded the stadium, filled the stadium, upgraded every single athletic facility, won back to back championships, so if it isn't enough then it never will be. It's as simple as that. We will have tough decisions to make if we get left behind again.

Annnd there it is. The real reason ECU fans are such jerks to UCF folks.

We all knew the fear of "being left behind again" was the motivator, it's just nice to see it in writing

It is the same reason that you don't want ECU in, because you don't want to be left behind either :)

(11-01-2010 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:19 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  At this point ECU has done everything it is capable of doing to be ready. Expanded the stadium, filled the stadium, upgraded every single athletic facility, won back to back championships, so if it isn't enough then it never will be. It's as simple as that. We will have tough decisions to make if we get left behind again.

Annnd there it is. The real reason ECU fans are such jerks to UCF folks.

We all knew the fear of "being left behind again" was the motivator, it's just nice to see it in writing

I can only speak for me, but I hate UCF fans because they are a bunch of punks who do nothing but run their traps and until Saturday had never done a thing to back up their talking. I personally hate any group that think they deserve something they haven't earned.

Before your back to back championships, what exactly had ECU accomplished in the BCS era? Two years ago you guys were trolling the internet running smack about beating Miami in the 90s.

We've won the east just as many times as you have. We're in the drivers seat to win it again and compete for our second conference championship.

At some point you have to acknowledge what your Athletic Director already has. This is about TV and revenue, not about how-many-rednecks-can-we-squeeze-into-a-stadium. I know that scares the piss out of you but seriously, the sooner you guys accept it the better.

(11-01-2010 01:06 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:23 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:19 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  At this point ECU has done everything it is capable of doing to be ready. Expanded the stadium, filled the stadium, upgraded every single athletic facility, won back to back championships, so if it isn't enough then it never will be. It's as simple as that. We will have tough decisions to make if we get left behind again.

Annnd there it is. The real reason ECU fans are such jerks to UCF folks.

We all knew the fear of "being left behind again" was the motivator, it's just nice to see it in writing

I can only speak for me, but I hate UCF fans because they are a bunch of punks who do nothing but run their traps and until Saturday had never done a thing to back up their talking. I personally hate any group that think they deserve something they haven't earned.

Before your back to back championships, what exactly had ECU accomplished in the BCS era? Two years ago you guys were trolling the internet running smack about beating Miami in the 90s.

We've won the east just as many times as you have. We're in the drivers seat to win it again and compete for our second conference championship.

At some point you have to acknowledge what your Athletic Director already has. This is about TV and revenue, not about how-many-rednecks-can-we-squeeze-into-a-stadium. I know that scares the piss out of you but seriously, the sooner you guys accept it the better.

Thanks for proving my point.

(11-01-2010 03:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Lets not get into a discussion about anything more than what the article listed. Buck started a bunch of crap AGAIN when he makes generalizations like "ECU doesnt have the ratings". It's a statement that is OFF-TOPIC. No TV was mentioned, No ratings were mentioned. Let's stay on topic.

Let's not get into a discussion about ECU again. The article about expansion in the Big East has 0, nada, nothing to do with ECU. I didn't start any "crap" I responded DIRECTLY to a question that was asked. Talk about starting CRAP

(11-01-2010 04:47 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 03:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Just so we dont get off track of this article...

1) It mentioned schools as "lead" candidates...we don't need to disect that. It also mentioned Villanova and Temple in the same breath, how does that work? Would they ask Temple as football only if Nova doesnt want to move up? Surely they arent talking about adding Temple in all sports AND still have Nova? As I said, you cant cherry pick what you are dissecting from the list of candidates.

2) It didnt mention TV markets or the BEN. Did it?

3) The part about the split, what is that? What does that mean? Where are they going with that?

Lets not get into a discussion about anything more than what the article listed. Buck started a bunch of crap AGAIN when he makes generalizations like "ECU doesnt have the ratings". It's a statement that is OFF-TOPIC. No TV was mentioned, No ratings were mentioned. Let's stay on topic.

1: I think that Temple is being mentioned just in case Villanova declines to join or they probably won't join.

2: I have no idea what the lack of TV or the BEN means. That's definitely open for assumptions.

3: We'll soon find out about the split part means. I highly doubt its going to happen.

As for Buck, just ignore him. I understand your frustrations with him. And I agree with you btw.

sorry to hear your so pro ecu and anti big east animus. btw I responded DIRECTLY to a question asked of me in discussing ECU. Guess only ECU fans are allowed to post here now though. Shame, it used to be a good BIG EAST board. You might note that my OP nor the article it quotes has anything whatsoever to do with that program-but don't let that stop you from letting them hijack another thread and make personal attacks.

(11-01-2010 05:00 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 04:47 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 03:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Just so we dont get off track of this article...

1) It mentioned schools as "lead" candidates...we don't need to disect that. It also mentioned Villanova and Temple in the same breath, how does that work? Would they ask Temple as football only if Nova doesnt want to move up? Surely they arent talking about adding Temple in all sports AND still have Nova? As I said, you cant cherry pick what you are dissecting from the list of candidates.

2) It didnt mention TV markets or the BEN. Did it?

3) The part about the split, what is that? What does that mean? Where are they going with that?

Lets not get into a discussion about anything more than what the article listed. Buck started a bunch of crap AGAIN when he makes generalizations like "ECU doesnt have the ratings". It's a statement that is OFF-TOPIC. No TV was mentioned, No ratings were mentioned. Let's stay on topic.

1: I think that Temple is being mentioned just in case Villanova declines to join or they probably won't join.

2: I have no idea what the lack of TV or the BEN means. That's definitely open for assumptions.

3: We'll soon find out about the split part means. I highly doubt its going to happen.

As for Buck, just ignore him. I understand your frustrations with him. And I agree with you btw.

sorry to hear your so pro ecu and anti big east animus. btw I responded DIRECTLY to a question asked of me in discussing ECU. Guess only ECU fans are allowed to post here now though. Shame, it used to be a good BIG EAST board. You might note that my OP nor the article it quotes has anything whatsoever to do with that program-but don't let that stop you from letting them hijack another thread and make personal attacks.

Listen. I told you a few weeks ago to lay off of the ECU issue. You have been starting pissing contests about ECU for months now. Its old. I deleted both your post and HT's post because it was becoming a pissing contest. I agreed with HT because he said this topic isn't about ECU and shouldn't be.

(11-01-2010 05:13 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 05:00 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 04:47 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 03:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Just so we dont get off track of this article...

1) It mentioned schools as "lead" candidates...we don't need to disect that. It also mentioned Villanova and Temple in the same breath, how does that work? Would they ask Temple as football only if Nova doesnt want to move up? Surely they arent talking about adding Temple in all sports AND still have Nova? As I said, you cant cherry pick what you are dissecting from the list of candidates.

2) It didnt mention TV markets or the BEN. Did it?

3) The part about the split, what is that? What does that mean? Where are they going with that?

Lets not get into a discussion about anything more than what the article listed. Buck started a bunch of crap AGAIN when he makes generalizations like "ECU doesnt have the ratings". It's a statement that is OFF-TOPIC. No TV was mentioned, No ratings were mentioned. Let's stay on topic.

1: I think that Temple is being mentioned just in case Villanova declines to join or they probably won't join.

2: I have no idea what the lack of TV or the BEN means. That's definitely open for assumptions.

3: We'll soon find out about the split part means. I highly doubt its going to happen.

As for Buck, just ignore him. I understand your frustrations with him. And I agree with you btw.

sorry to hear your so pro ecu and anti big east animus. btw I responded DIRECTLY to a question asked of me in discussing ECU. Guess only ECU fans are allowed to post here now though. Shame, it used to be a good BIG EAST board. You might note that my OP nor the article it quotes has anything whatsoever to do with that program-but don't let that stop you from letting them hijack another thread and make personal attacks.

Listen. I told you a few weeks ago to lay off of the ECU issue. You have been starting pissing contests about ECU for months now. Its old. I deleted both your post and HT's post because it was becoming a pissing contest. I agreed with HT because he said this topic isn't about ECU and shouldn't be.

Animus...Dont worry about it. Most all ECU fans that have been around more than a decade know full well that we are not a viable candidate due to the TV market issue... Those that are older than that just have not been paying much attention. I'm second gen.. My parents were ECTC grads...I know what the deal is.

(11-01-2010 05:13 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 05:00 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 04:47 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 03:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Just so we dont get off track of this article...

1) It mentioned schools as "lead" candidates...we don't need to disect that. It also mentioned Villanova and Temple in the same breath, how does that work? Would they ask Temple as football only if Nova doesnt want to move up? Surely they arent talking about adding Temple in all sports AND still have Nova? As I said, you cant cherry pick what you are dissecting from the list of candidates.

2) It didnt mention TV markets or the BEN. Did it?

3) The part about the split, what is that? What does that mean? Where are they going with that?

Lets not get into a discussion about anything more than what the article listed. Buck started a bunch of crap AGAIN when he makes generalizations like "ECU doesnt have the ratings". It's a statement that is OFF-TOPIC. No TV was mentioned, No ratings were mentioned. Let's stay on topic.

1: I think that Temple is being mentioned just in case Villanova declines to join or they probably won't join.

2: I have no idea what the lack of TV or the BEN means. That's definitely open for assumptions.

3: We'll soon find out about the split part means. I highly doubt its going to happen.

As for Buck, just ignore him. I understand your frustrations with him. And I agree with you btw.

sorry to hear your so pro ecu and anti big east animus. btw I responded DIRECTLY to a question asked of me in discussing ECU. Guess only ECU fans are allowed to post here now though. Shame, it used to be a good BIG EAST board. You might note that my OP nor the article it quotes has anything whatsoever to do with that program-but don't let that stop you from letting them hijack another thread and make personal attacks.

Listen. I told you a few weeks ago to lay off of the ECU issue. You have been starting pissing contests about ECU for months now. Its old. I deleted both your post and HT's post because it was becoming a pissing contest. I agreed with HT because he said this topic isn't about ECU and shouldn't be.

I have not once started a pissing match. ECU fans started pissing matches because they didn't like information I posted factually about schools--usually multiple schools that may or may not have included theirs. As to the comment about this thread, read above and you'll find that long before he posted that I posted that we should be discussing the article and the teams mentioned in the article, not their school or others not discussed. But you've bought their line so why bother.

(11-01-2010 07:44 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 06:52 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  wow I go away from my computer and I miss all this.

seems to me clear that the non-FB schools are pressuring Villanova heavily to upgrade their program, so that potentially (from their point of view) the BE can stay at 16. But I can't imagine why WVU, UL, etc. would agree to Villanova as a compromise with TCU sitting there interested. They leverage is on the FB side, and even with Villanova I don't think the BB side would be able to prevent a split if they balk at TCU. I would agree that 20 seems unrealistic, but maybe 18? Nova, TCU, Houston. Of course would create 11 for football, so... who knows. I doubt anybody has any clue what will happen at this point and that includes the BE presidents and ADs.

Adding TCU, Houston, ECU and UCF gets us to 12 teams. This covers our @zz when Rutgers, and Pitt or Cuse goes to the Big 10 next year. We will still have 10 teams and we can wait for Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State, Baylor next year after the B12 implodes.

I don't think we're likely to add on any Big 12 refugees. Even if the Big 12 implodes - meaning they lose Texas and possibly A&M and Oklahoma to the SEC - there would still be enough membership there to possibly band together with schools like TCU, Houston, Air Force, Boise State and put together a decently strong conference that could feasibly maintain a BCS bid. Who knows... but the BE can't wait around for something that may never happen. I don't think we'll see the Big 10 expand anymore beyond what they have.

(11-01-2010 08:17 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

:iagree:

(11-01-2010 08:17 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

...Thats Money!

(11-01-2010 07:25 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 07:12 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 05:13 PM)animus Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 05:00 PM)buckaineer Wrote:  

(11-01-2010 04:47 PM)animus Wrote:  1: I think that Temple is being mentioned just in case Villanova declines to join or they probably won't join.

2: I have no idea what the lack of TV or the BEN means. That's definitely open for assumptions.

3: We'll soon find out about the split part means. I highly doubt its going to happen.

As for Buck, just ignore him. I understand your frustrations with him. And I agree with you btw.

sorry to hear your so pro ecu and anti big east animus. btw I responded DIRECTLY to a question asked of me in discussing ECU. Guess only ECU fans are allowed to post here now though. Shame, it used to be a good BIG EAST board. You might note that my OP nor the article it quotes has anything whatsoever to do with that program-but don't let that stop you from letting them hijack another thread and make personal attacks.

Listen. I told you a few weeks ago to lay off of the ECU issue. You have been starting pissing contests about ECU for months now. Its old. I deleted both your post and HT's post because it was becoming a pissing contest. I agreed with HT because he said this topic isn't about ECU and shouldn't be.

I have not once started a pissing match. ECU fans started pissing matches because they didn't like information I posted factually about schools--usually multiple schools that may or may not have included theirs. As to the comment about this thread, read above and you'll find that long before he posted that I posted that we should be discussing the article and the teams mentioned in the article, not their school or others not discussed. But you've bought their line so why bother.

You won't just let it go, will you Buck? You said this in the 5th post of this thread...

ECU doesn't have tv market and thus can't deliver revenues

The first mention of ECU and you say that ECU can't deliver revenues as some sort of fact...you provided nothing to substantiate that statement that ECU's TV market CAN'T deliver revenues, its what YOU believe and YOUR opinion, but you state it as fact and, with the ECU fan base as big and passionate as they are...they line up to refute you.

Let me re-iterate...YOU, SIR BUCK ARE NOT IN THE ROOM and don't have the data that the BE does. If the BE says this, then you can source it, and say who said it.

If you have an opinion, say "In my opinion", it's just that simple.

Alright seriously fellas that's enough out of both of you on this. Drop it. And Buck you definitely go out of your way with ECU much of the time. You probably aren't intentionally trying to start pissing matches with these guys who are generally solid posters, but think about how you're saying stuff in regards to ECU and how often and you'll probably see why it gets taken the wrong way and leads to "internet forum arguments."