I'll be particularly interested in seeing both Ron Paul's margin of victory, and John Dennis' margin of defeat against Nancy Pelosi.
Ron Paul is right now polling about 81% .... a freakishly high figure for a non-highly partisan district. To give you an idea of how huge that is, Pelosi is in perhaps THE most Democratic district in the country (San Francisco), and she is around that number as you'll see below. But Ron Paul's district is maybe R+8 ... whereas Pelosi's is around D+30
John Dennis may do better than anybody ever has against Pelosi. Past Pelosi elections:
US House, CA-8, 1988: Pelosi 76.4% to 19.3%
US House, CA-8, 1990: Pelosi 77.2% to 22.8%
US House, CA-8, 1992: Pelosi 82.5% to 11%
US House, CA-8, 1994: Pelosi 81.8% to 18.2%
US House, CA-8, 1996: Pelosi 84.3% to 12.4%
US House, CA-8, 1998: Pelosi 85.8% to 12.1%
US House, CA-8, 2000: Pelosi 84.5% to 11.7%
US House, CA-8, 2002: Pelosi 79.6% to 12.6%
US House, CA-8, 2004: Pelosi 83.0% to 11.5%
US House, CA-8, 2006: Pelosi 80.4% to 10.8%
US House, CA-8, 2008: Pelosi 71.9% to 16.2%
As you can see, the GOP candidate has only broke 20% once. It looks like John Dennis is going to come in over the 30% mark -- more than doubling the average GOP vote here. You're not going to turn a district THIS blue around overnight, but clearly John Dennis has found the inroads, and that street is marked libertarian conservatism.
RE: Interesting results from already decided races
Proposed republican strategy:
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
That's the problem now. The fix is decreasing the size of the federal government. These idiots get up there and try to implement something that works in Utah for the rest of the country. They think if it works in Cali, it'll work in Georgia, etc. The federal government is WAY to involved in things it is not Constitutionally allowed to be involved with. Protect the nation, regulate interstate commerce. Other than that? Back the f--- off. The states can handle their own.
RE: Interesting results from already decided races
...and those social conservatives try to force their views on the rest of the nation just as social liberals try to force their views on the nation. It's not their job to force any social issues onto the nation. We're not f'n plebes.
RE: Interesting results from already decided races
(10-29-2010 10:09 AM)Rebel Wrote:
(10-29-2010 10:06 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Proposed republican strategy:
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
That's the problem now. The fix is decreasing the size of the federal government. These idiots get up there and try to implement something that works in Utah for the rest of the country. They think if it works in Cali, it'll work in Georgia, etc. The federal government is WAY to involved in things it is not Constitutionally allowed to be involved with. Protect the nation, regulate interstate commerce. Other than that? Back the f--- off. The states can handle their own.
Are you disagreeing with me? Because I don't think I'm disagreeing with you. I'm saying two things:
1. Where you have to run social conservatives to win (and there are places where you have to), make sure they are also fiscal conservatives.
2. Where you don't have to run social conservatives to win, run libertarians.
That approach would end up with fewer social conservatives, and more fiscal conservatives, than now. I think that's what we both want.
RE: Interesting results from already decided races
(10-29-2010 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(10-29-2010 10:09 AM)Rebel Wrote:
(10-29-2010 10:06 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Proposed republican strategy:
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
That's the problem now. The fix is decreasing the size of the federal government. These idiots get up there and try to implement something that works in Utah for the rest of the country. They think if it works in Cali, it'll work in Georgia, etc. The federal government is WAY to involved in things it is not Constitutionally allowed to be involved with. Protect the nation, regulate interstate commerce. Other than that? Back the f--- off. The states can handle their own.
Are you disagreeing with me? Because I don't think I'm disagreeing with you. I'm saying two things:
1. Where you have to run social conservatives to win (and there are places where you have to), make sure they are also fiscal conservatives.
2. Where you don't have to run social conservatives to win, run libertarians.
That approach would end up with fewer social conservatives, and more fiscal conservatives, than now. I think that's what we both want.
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
Well, you have "redistricting" coming up this year, which will be interesting.
Will someone pay my moving expenses?
In the Georgia 4th Congressional District you have Hank Johnson (Guam is going to capsize) up on Liz Carter 43 percent to 31 percent, with 26 percent either undecided, or unable to name either candidate.
Oh, if you think if Hank was off his rocker with the 'Guam will capsize" comments... "but wait, there's more.... stupidity"
And the Arrogant SOB Hank Johnson refuses to debate Liz Carter.
"Johnson, the Democratic incumbent, has elected to forego participating in any debates.
“My thought was that I don’t want to give my opponent a platform to enhance her own election prospects when the public is not demanding a debate or a forum,” said the Lithonia resident, who has represented DeKalb County and parts of Gwinnett and Rockdale in Congress for the past four years. “The only people demanding a forum was the candidate herself and her supporters.”
Johnson believes his record of service speaks for itself.
“I don’t need to have a forum with (my opponent) in order to make my views known to the public because they’re already known,” he said. “For that reason I decided that it was politically imprudent to participate in these forums instigated by my opponent.”
Carter, an Atlanta entrepreneur, said Johnson’s voting record does speak for itself — in the animated debates, viewable on YouTube.com, which the congressman said he had not seen.
“He has missed more than six debates held by bi-partisan groups,” Carter said. “He has refused to have an open, honest, candid discussion with the voters. Since he refuses to show up what I did is ... we used his statements and voting record on issues for an animated debate.”
Run social conservatives where you have to--Utah, Alabama, etc.--as long as they are also fiscal conservatives.
Run libertarian conservatives (fiscal conservative, social liberal) everywhere else.
Start now to identify candidates fitting the above criteria and have them ready to go in 2012.
Well, you have "redistricting" coming up this year, which will be interesting.
Will someone pay my moving expenses?
In the Georgia 4th Congressional District you have Hank Johnson (Guam is going to capsize) up on Liz Carter 43 percent to 31 percent, with 26 percent either undecided, or unable to name either candidate.
RE: Interesting results from already decided races
(10-29-2010 10:10 AM)Rebel Wrote: ...and those social conservatives try to force their views on the rest of the nation just as social liberals try to force their views on the nation. It's not their job to force any social issues onto the nation. We're not f'n plebes.
You're right, but here is the answer to that problem if we can only get it to the right minds.
God created us with free will. He gave us the freedom to choose who we serve and what we believe. A good government, a God-like government, should do the same.
This is THE bridge between the social conservatives and the libertarian conservatives.
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Interesting results from already decided races
