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New Conference
How about a new conference?

SouthWest Converence!!!

Louisiana
Louisiana Tech
Arkansas St.
North Texas
New Mexico St
Utah State
Rice
UTSA
Tulsa

Who else for further expansion?
Texas St.
UTEP
SMU
S. Miss
09-24-2010 08:50 AM
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Doesn't make much sense to take in Utah State without a team from the state of Colorado-Utah State isn't that far from Boise
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RE: New Conference
I could see this:

Houston
Louisiana Tech
North Texas
Rice
Southern Methodist
Texas-El Paso
Tulane
Tulsa
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(10-07-2010 01:13 AM)David Krysakowski Wrote:  I could see this:

Houston
Louisiana Tech
North Texas
Rice
Southern Methodist
Texas-El Paso
Tulane
Tulsa
And why leave out Louisiana??? Ask the Houstons and the Tulanes as well as the S. Misses who travels and what we can bring in the future!!!!
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No one in CUSA west is going to leave for anything other than a bcs league. The MWC, and any other new conf will be a huge $$$ hit.
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RE: New Conference
(09-24-2010 08:50 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  How about a new conference?

SouthWest Converence!!!

Louisiana
Louisiana Tech
Arkansas St.
North Texas
New Mexico St
Utah State
Rice
UTSA
Tulsa

Who else for further expansion?
Texas St.
UTEP
SMU
S. Miss

Why would anyone from the SunBelt want to come to the WAC??

1) The conference is not stable right now
2) The Sunbelt is a Southeastern Conference and travel costs would be more to be in the WAC.
3) The SunBelt has been showing huge improvements each year. The Sunbelt is 4-1 against the MAC schools this season and 2-0 so far against them in bowls...
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(01-07-2011 04:14 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(01-05-2011 02:33 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Why would anyone from the SunBelt want to come to the WAC??

1) The conference is not stable right now
2) The Sunbelt is a Southeastern Conference and travel costs would be more to be in the WAC.
3) The SunBelt has been showing huge improvements each year. The Sunbelt is 4-1 against the MAC schools this season and 2-0 so far against them in bowls...

To commit suicide? There's no way any member of the Sun Belt ever joins the WAC at this point. The WAC is on the verge of collapse. There's no way a SBC or any current FBS conference school would walk into that.

The WAC is not going away. You have been consuming that same Sunbelt soup(spiked with something) that makes them forget their inferiority complex.
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Southern Miss for now is in a great position... unless an invite opens up to the Big East, Big 12, etc. I don't see us going anywhere.
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(09-18-2011 11:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  I changed my mind. The Scum Belch will always be the worst conference in Division 1. Way to go Indiana State! Blowout victors over hapless Western Kentucky of the Suck Belch!

Also noticed that UTSA drew over 51,000 in attendance for the first home game. State University of Murfreesboro, Tennessee couldn't draw that many fans in TWO home games! Good job, San Antonio!

You're talking to a board that averages about six posts a month and bitterly spewing hatred about a school and a conference that very few people here really care about. The interest meter for Middle Tennessee in Moscow, Las Cruces, San Jose, San Antonio is about zero and I can assure you that the interest meter for UTSA, Idaho, NMSU etc. is the same in Murfreesboro.

I guess the positive thing about this board is with so little traffic, I doubt even you can get banned.

FWIW-With the 30,502 we drew against Georgia Tech, I can assure you will crack 51,000 between two games with our next home game being homecoming against Memphis.

BTW...I'd been holding back, but nice game against Utah...oh and I really like your mustache, it's mantastic.
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(09-20-2011 12:31 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-19-2011 08:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-18-2011 11:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  I changed my mind. The Scum Belch will always be the worst conference in Division 1. Way to go Indiana State! Blowout victors over hapless Western Kentucky of the Suck Belch!

Also noticed that UTSA drew over 51,000 in attendance for the first home game. State University of Murfreesboro, Tennessee couldn't draw that many fans in TWO home games! Good job, San Antonio!

You're talking to a board that averages about six posts a month and bitterly spewing hatred about a school and a conference that very few people here really care about. The interest meter for Middle Tennessee in Moscow, Las Cruces, San Jose, San Antonio is about zero and I can assure you that the interest meter for UTSA, Idaho, NMSU etc. is the same in Murfreesboro.

I guess the positive thing about this board is with so little traffic, I doubt even you can get banned.

FWIW-With the 30,502 we drew against Georgia Tech, I can assure you will crack 51,000 between two games with our next home game being homecoming against Memphis.

BTW...I'd been holding back, but nice game against Utah...oh and I really like your mustache, it's mantastic.


Utah always gives us fits. It's not like we were playing someone we'd automatically beat like a Scum Belt team. Utah, of course, would crush any member of the Suck Belt this year including your pride and joy, FIU.

And I don't why you think I have a mustache because I don't.


You're right, Utah would beat any Sun Belt team, but they didn't just "give you fits" they thoroughly dominated you and you went on and on about how bad MT is for getting beaten by 28 by Georgia Tech(after you said we'd be lucky to keep it within 30 and need I remind you that I predicted we would?) but Utah beating you by 44 is because "they always give you fits?"

And BYU should beat any Sun Belt school, they've been playing FBS ball much longer and I suspect probably have double the budget of most Sun Belt schools. I guess that's the benefit of picking your new favorite school every few years...how's Tennessee State and Southern Cal doing these days?

Oh and if you shaved your mustache, you should really think about bringing it back, it was a good look...sorta pseudo cop with a dash of 70's porn star, bring it back Scotty, bring it back.
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Zac, what the f#ck do you want from me?
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(09-20-2011 10:17 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 03:12 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 12:31 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-19-2011 08:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-18-2011 11:19 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  I changed my mind. The Scum Belch will always be the worst conference in Division 1. Way to go Indiana State! Blowout victors over hapless Western Kentucky of the Suck Belch!

Also noticed that UTSA drew over 51,000 in attendance for the first home game. State University of Murfreesboro, Tennessee couldn't draw that many fans in TWO home games! Good job, San Antonio!

You're talking to a board that averages about six posts a month and bitterly spewing hatred about a school and a conference that very few people here really care about. The interest meter for Middle Tennessee in Moscow, Las Cruces, San Jose, San Antonio is about zero and I can assure you that the interest meter for UTSA, Idaho, NMSU etc. is the same in Murfreesboro.

I guess the positive thing about this board is with so little traffic, I doubt even you can get banned.

FWIW-With the 30,502 we drew against Georgia Tech, I can assure you will crack 51,000 between two games with our next home game being homecoming against Memphis.

BTW...I'd been holding back, but nice game against Utah...oh and I really like your mustache, it's mantastic.


Utah always gives us fits. It's not like we were playing someone we'd automatically beat like a Scum Belt team. Utah, of course, would crush any member of the Suck Belt this year including your pride and joy, FIU.

And I don't why you think I have a mustache because I don't.


You're right, Utah would beat any Sun Belt team, but they didn't just "give you fits" they thoroughly dominated you and you went on and on about how bad MT is for getting beaten by 28 by Georgia Tech(after you said we'd be lucky to keep it within 30 and need I remind you that I predicted we would?) but Utah beating you by 44 is because "they always give you fits?"

And BYU should beat any Sun Belt school, they've been playing FBS ball much longer and I suspect probably have double the budget of most Sun Belt schools. I guess that's the benefit of picking your new favorite school every few years...how's Tennessee State and Southern Cal doing these days?

Oh and if you shaved your mustache, you should really think about bringing it back, it was a good look...sorta pseudo cop with a dash of 70's porn star, bring it back Scotty, bring it back.

Zac, what the f#ck do you want from me?

I don't know Scotty, I guess you're fun to mess with. I'm sorry to say it, but you do occasionally make yourself an easy target.

Look buddy, when I say that I hold no ill will towards you I mean it. Yes, we argue, yes we bicker, yeah I give you a hard time, but I promise I don't mean to really upset you and I swear to you that while I don't get the whole religion thing, if you do, who am I to say you're wrong? Clearly something about the Mormon church struck a chord with you and you're bettering yourself by earning your degree, actually a double major right?

I'm a sarcastic guy, I'm sorry if anything I've said has actually upset you, some days you seem like the kind of guy who can just let stuff roll of your shoulders and then other days you're ultra defensive. I want you to know that I sincerely hope that you're happier out there in Colorado than you were in Tennessee, just because we're "enemies" doesn't mean I sit up at night trying to think of ways to make you miserable or that I hope your team loses or any of that stuff. We've both been petty at times and for that I apologize as well.

At the end of the day, we're just two people who can't seem to see eye to eye on...just about anything. Perhaps it's best that we do just ignore each other, it does always seem to go down this familiar path when we don't. At times I've thrown the first stone, at times you've thrown the first stone and we've both been guilty of overzealous retaliation.

I want you to know that I'm willing to do my best to ignore you if you feel that's the best course of action and I want you to know that if you don't think we need to ignore one another that I'm willing to commit to not attack you, or mess with you, if you're willing to do the same, because one of the few things that you and I have in common is that we're both big fans of college football in general and if you'd like to keep the lines of communication between us open, I'm willing to try and keep those lines friendly.

Let's start over Scotty, whether it be through taking the easy way and ignoring one another, or be it the bit more difficult way and trying peaceful coexistence knowing that it means that each of us might have to hold our tongue from time to time(something that neither of us are particularly astute at). If this is the last time we speak to each other, I do want you to know that I never meant to actually upset you or attack you on a personal level, I may have gotten carried away at times, but I can assure you that I'm not a mean spirited guy and while I think that all religion is a bit, I dunno...goofy? I don't know your heart and I don't know your experience and just because I've never experienced something that would make me believe that religion, any religion, is correct, I do realize that it's entirely possible that you've experienced something that I never have. I don't know if there is a God and I'm okay with that, some days I feel that there definitely is and others I feel that there definitely isn't, maybe someday I'll make up my mind, but what I do believe in my heart right now is that if there is a God, that God isn't all that concerned with how we pray, or how often we pray, or who we pray to(provided that it is some interpretation of God) just so long as we live our life in a positive way, which is what I try to do, despite the impression I may have given you on the internet. I'm sure you believe that my belief system is totally mislead, and I'm okay with that and I'm not interested in you trying to change my mind(just as you're not interested in me trying to change yours) but try to understand that me stating what I believe, even while it's in stark contrast to what you believe, is in no way an effort to try and change your beliefs, I think it would be awfully presumptuous of me to try and change someone else's beliefs when I'm not even entirely certain of what I actually believe in, but also understand that my saying that I'm not sure I believe in God or that my interpretation of what God is like, provided there is a God, is no different that you quoting bible verses or you telling me that God does love me even if I don't believe in him. We're both just making declarations of what we believe. You ask what happened to freedom of speech, but you've attacked and neg repped me in the past for saying that I'm not sure God is real, so you've attacked my free speech as well.

Sorry if I've rambled on a bit, but I'm just trying to let it all out. So again, I'm willing to cooperate with you on whatever you feel like is the best course of action between us moving forward and again and I apologize for any time I've gotten carried away or if you've ever taken what I've said on here to heart.
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Zac, just let me be. You got what you wanted.
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(09-20-2011 11:46 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Zac, just let me be. You got what you wanted.

If you took the time to read my reply completely and that's still how you feel, than I am deeply sorry and I give you my word that I'll ignore you from now on. If you didn't read my reply completely, this is the only thing I'll ever ask of you, please read it entirely and then let me know what you think and I give you my word I'll agree to whatever you say.
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(09-20-2011 11:55 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 11:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 11:46 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Zac, just let me be. You got what you wanted.

If you took the time to read my reply completely and that's still how you feel, than I am deeply sorry and I give you my word that I'll ignore you from now on. If you didn't read my reply completely, this is the only thing I'll ever ask of you, please read it entirely and then let me know what you think and I give you my word I'll agree to whatever you say.


I wish I never agreed to go to Middle Tennessee State so long ago. I had my heart on Knoxville, but I somehow let myself be swayed to stay closer to home. I don't regret the experiences I learned in my time around MTSU, but I still wish it was never a part of my life. Only pain has followed the name of that school--pain I did not deserve.

I sincerely hope that you learned from a decision you consider to be a mistake, if we don't learn from our mistakes we're destined to make them again. Understand that as much as you may wish you could change that decision to go to Middle Tennessee, I wouldn't change my decision if given the opportunity, you may have little to no positive memories from Murfreesboro, but I have only positive memories so you have to understand that I take exception to you going out of your way to badmouth the school I earned my degree from. Despite our bickering, you do seem to be happier out there and I'm glad for you, no one deserves to be somewhere that makes them miserable.

I do not wish misery, hatred, or anything else negative upon you Scotty. Again, if you think it's best we just ignore each other, I give you my word that I will do my best to just let you be.
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(09-21-2011 01:01 AM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-21-2011 12:04 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 11:55 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 11:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(09-20-2011 11:46 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Zac, just let me be. You got what you wanted.

If you took the time to read my reply completely and that's still how you feel, than I am deeply sorry and I give you my word that I'll ignore you from now on. If you didn't read my reply completely, this is the only thing I'll ever ask of you, please read it entirely and then let me know what you think and I give you my word I'll agree to whatever you say.


I wish I never agreed to go to Middle Tennessee State so long ago. I had my heart on Knoxville, but I somehow let myself be swayed to stay closer to home. I don't regret the experiences I learned in my time around MTSU, but I still wish it was never a part of my life. Only pain has followed the name of that school--pain I did not deserve.

I sincerely hope that you learned from a decision you consider to be a mistake, if we don't learn from our mistakes we're destined to make them again. Understand that as much as you may wish you could change that decision to go to Middle Tennessee, I wouldn't change my decision if given the opportunity, you may have little to no positive memories from Murfreesboro, but I have only positive memories so you have to understand that I take exception to you going out of your way to badmouth the school I earned my degree from. Despite our bickering, you do seem to be happier out there and I'm glad for you, no one deserves to be somewhere that makes them miserable.

I do not wish misery, hatred, or anything else negative upon you Scotty. Again, if you think it's best we just ignore each other, I give you my word that I will do my best to just let you be.



In my time in Murfreesboro I found people who only pretended to be my friend. And now look at them. Those same people are now more open of their intolerance of me now that I have severed my ties with MTSU. They have come from out of the catacombs of their mind where they only bottled up their hatred of me, and now they release it. There is not one BlueRaiderZone.com or GoMiddle.com MTSU fan that is my friend. The reason being? They never were, nor did they ever want to be. It was all a charade. All the tailgates, conversations, road-trips, parties--it was an act. Don't you get it? I wanted to find friends there, and no one would accept me. Maybe I have a haunting aura. Something prevented all those MTSU "friends" from fully accepting me. I'm just sorry I couldn't see through the charade. I'm just sorry that I couldn't see that everyone was pretending the whole time.

I don't know what to tell ya pal, I didn't know you then. Your life is better now, right? Let go of the past. You're living in a completely different place, with a completely different life and you've made changes that have improved your quality of life, right? Just let it all go, if those people were faking it, how does that change what you're doing now? All I can say is I don't like who you are when you get riled up and post angry on the boards. I don't hate you, but I genuinely don't like the guy you can become when you get riled up and I don't think you do either, that's why you tried to create this new persona and deny your past, here's the thing, you don't have to deny your past, you just have to realize that where you are now is a better place for you, right?

Middle Tennessee ended up being a terrible place for you, I don't know why exactly, I don't know what you did or what others did to you, but you made the decision to change your life, right? And that decision seems to be paying dividends, right? So why dwell on the actions of people from a time that you'd rather just forget? I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but to me it seems like everything about your life in Colorado is better than your life in Tennessee, so why come to the sun belt board, even if your intentions are good, where you risk stirring up memories from a past you'd rather forget. Don't mistake, I'm not trying to get rid of you just because of our differences, I just think that if you're life is so much better now(and while I don't really know you, it seems like it is) why even walk down this path? There are people who will never forget what you said and did as RITZ and Semper, which may not be fair, but it's reality. You claim to hate Middle Tennessee and the "scum belt" so why even bother with posting about them? It's just going to cause arguments. You took the leap by moving thousands of miles away, so why not take the leap and just cut all that crap out of your life. Middle Tennessee and the Sun Belt conference are a good thing for me and many others, they weren't for you. Live your life you have now, graduate with your degrees from Adams, embrace the change you've made in your life and remember why you made that change.

Scotty, I don't think you're a bad guy, but when you come back and reintroduce yourself to circles that only caused you troubles in the past you're just asking for trouble now. If you think you can find happiness or closure(or whatever) by coming back and posting on sun belt or MT boards and you think that's something you need, then do it, but I don't think you need that. Obviously you wanted to get away for some reason, so stay away, when you came back you seemed like a different person and I held my tongue for a while, but even if I hadn't called you out, someone else would have because of the bridges you burnt. So you've made these changes, don't jeopardize them by coming back to the places you were trying to get away from. Is it fair that you can't come back? No, it's not fair, but it is reality. Why do things that are only going to bring you misery in the end? You're right, you don't deserve to be treated the way you've been treated, but whether fair or not, your actions in a past life have made it extremely difficult for you to be treated well in certain places.

I don't truly know you and I probably never will, but I do know that you're not a bad guy, you're misunderstood and it's not important who's fault that is, it's important that you continue to embrace the change you've made in your life. I know you don't like getting into these arguments and you don't like people hating you, it's not a good feeling. I wish you nothing but happiness Scott, I truly mean that. Take care and if for whatever reason you continue to come back to places from your past, I give you my word that I won't instigate and I won't mess with you, there are enough people who do that already, just know that I respect your ability to pick up and move yourself thousands of miles away and make a positive change in your life I just cannot for the life of me understand why'd you jeopardize your new life by looking back to the past. If someday our paths cross, I'll extend my hand to you and we'll laugh about all the unpleasantness. Life is too short to get caught up in petty arguments.
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(09-21-2011 12:00 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Zac, check your PM's. I know I've sent you one.

I got one that was decidedly negative I tried to reply to it but you had disabled PM's, I hope that's not the one you're referring to, if it is and that's still how you feel after hearing me out, then I wish you well in the future and hope that if our paths do cross again in the future whether on the internet or in person that it is on a much more positive note than the past six months have been.
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(09-21-2011 01:37 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  
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(09-21-2011 12:00 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Zac, check your PM's. I know I've sent you one.

I got one that was decidedly negative I tried to reply to it but you had disabled PM's, I hope that's not the one you're referring to, if it is and that's still how you feel after hearing me out, then I wish you well in the future and hope that if our paths do cross again in the future whether on the internet or in person that it is on a much more positive note than the past six months have been.


It was sent last night. It didn't seem negative to me. It seemed honest and with a degree of neutrality. Do you realize how many non-MTSU fans hate me because of your influence? They don't even know me. They've never met me, and yet they hate me.

Scott, the majority of those posters, even the non-MT fans, remember your past aliases it was not that long ago that you were posting here as RITZ, I didn't make you say the inflammatory things you said then and I certainly didn't make you say the things you said just recently to get banned. I've accepted my share of the blame for getting roped into petty arguments, but now you seem to want to blame me for the way people have reacted to your behavior both in the past and the present, I don't know what to tell you Scott, if you believe I'm to blame and you still believe that I hate you, then I am sorry, you are mistaken, but I am sorry, nonetheless, for leading you to believe those things.
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