(08-18-2010 05:05 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Toyota is all about image and optics these days, no substance. Any company that would willingly cover up their accelerator problems for years is nasty.

I'd buy a German brand if I were you, safety and quality are over the top.

Yes, I remember that. You bought a BMW when your boss tripled your salary and you were retiring fat and rich in a year. Only 4 more months. :johnkerry:

(08-18-2010 04:57 PM)bronco5 Wrote:  I just don't understand why you would support a company who produced a product that nearly killed your wife. Its similar to someone who gets lung cancer from smoking, gets their lung "repaired", and continues smoking. Stupid.

Oh man, take a chill pill! You have no tact!

Sin,

Board tards

I'm not a car guy at all but we just bought a Toyota Matrix and I looooooovvvee it-the first car I can ever say that about. runs great, thus far good service although its been minimal. I bought Fords for about three cars in a row and had terrible rust problems, bought a couple Dodge vans and had radiators blow on both. Had good luck with Hondas but didn't like the design of the CRV-Love the Toyota and wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

Toyota tells me they've engineered all the frames to be sealed box frames. No V frames or box frames with holes where water can pool up. They build a great engine, and nice interior, but their older models have always had issues with bumper rust and running board rust.

Their frames were engineered badly, and it's been corrected in the newer models. I'd buy another one, but they need to show some good faith that they want me as a customer, rather than trying to cover their azz on a problem that they know exists.

^exactly. Don't let them flake out on this one. They need to make it right. We expect things to rust in Michigan, but not the frame.

Admittedly it is 14 years old. But still.

(08-18-2010 06:54 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 05:05 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Toyota is all about image and optics these days, no substance. Any company that would willingly cover up their accelerator problems for years is nasty.

I'd buy a German brand if I were you, safety and quality are over the top.

Yes, I remember that. You bought a BMW when your boss tripled your salary and you were retiring fat and rich in a year. Only 4 more months. :johnkerry:

NO, I decided to go into education, hardest decision I ever made, but after being a rousing success in the private sector, I made the call and went to serve the greater good of the people, I'm sure I'll have no regrets because I was such a great leader and will have that to fall back on when I have doubts....

Oh wait, that's you.

All car brands have problems, I wouldn't let it scare you off from buying a Ty in the future. In fact I'd fix the car you have now and keep driving it if all the major components are in good running condition.

The accelerator thing was mainly media hysteria, it was a very rare problem. Most cases are (not surprisingly) people pushing the wrong pedal, some were valid cases of pedals sticking to the floor or floor mats.

That said the domestic brands (Detroit 3) do build much better cars than they used to. But they built some real junk in the 80's and early 90's without apology and continue to suffer a reputation of shoddy quality that will take years to shed.

Also, when you do decide to buy a car (new or used) please buy a car assembled in the USA regardless of whether the brand is domestic or non-domestic, they're all building here to some extent.

Quote:Also, when you do decide to buy a car (new or used) please buy a car assembled in the USA regardless of whether the brand is domestic or non-domestic, they're all building here to some extent.

I used to feel that way until they outsourced so many workers. Including my profession.

You don't need a car. Just walk, run, bike, or use public transportation. Way to contribute to global warming by using your very own car!

I'm doing my part. I've cut back on farting.

(08-19-2010 10:25 AM)bronco5 Wrote:  You don't need a car. Just walk, run, bike, or use public transportation. Way to contribute to global warming by using your very own car!

I ride the rail to work every day. Cheaper and just as fast.

(08-18-2010 05:00 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  Now when did your parents buy your last car for you?

I think they bought him that lawn tractor pictured in the other thread, Dip.