Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

You can probably afford to avoid the bodybag games. Our student body has 7,000 students and our tuition is probably considerably lower than MT's. So it's probably a smart move for us to get money wherever we can. My gripe with MT fans at times is they sometimes equate those easier ooc wins with having a better team, when it's really a scheduling issue.

(07-12-2010 02:11 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

You can probably afford to avoid the bodybag games. Our student body has 7,000 students and our tuition is probably considerably lower than MT's. So it's probably a smart move for us to get money wherever we can. My gripe with MT fans at times is they sometimes equate those easier ooc wins with having a better team, when it's really a scheduling issue.

You also have multiple sat. campuses and 20000+ online students that pay more and cost less then on campus students.

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

Yeah, great job get handled by Clemson, scraping by an awful Maryland and beating up on 2-10 Memphis before getting embarrassed again on ESPNU by Mississippi State.

(07-12-2010 09:19 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

Yeah, great job get handled by Clemson and scraping by an awful Maryland and beating up on 2-10 Memphis before getting embarrassed again on ESPNU by Mississippi State.

And TROY on The Deuce...better record, yes...better team, not so much...

(07-12-2010 09:19 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

Yeah, great job get handled by Clemson and scraping by an awful Maryland and beating up on 2-10 Memphis before getting embarrassed again on ESPNU by Mississippi State.

I can list your losses too (and put one in italics): Troy lost to Florida, Arkansas, CMU, and BGSU. That's 1 more team than MT lost to.

Why brag about getting your butt beat by good teams (and BGSU) and chastise a team for winning the games they were supposed to?

(07-12-2010 09:56 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 09:19 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 01:35 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Don't blame us for scheduling games we could win, and winning them.

I guess MT could have scheduled some paycheck losses like BGSU, though.

Yeah, great job get handled by Clemson and scraping by an awful Maryland and beating up on 2-10 Memphis before getting embarrassed again on ESPNU by Mississippi State.

I can list your losses too (and put one in italics): Troy lost to Florida, Arkansas, CMU, and BGSU. That's 1 more team than MT lost to.

Why brag about getting your butt beat by good teams (and BGSU) and chastise a team for winning the games they were supposed to?

Actually the only relevant score in this thread is 31-7. Call it a one game slip. Dasher wasn't ready. The team was down. Whatever you want to call it, MT was embarrassed by its conference mate again, on national TV.

(07-12-2010 09:56 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  I can list your losses too (and put one in italics): Troy lost to Florida, Arkansas, CMU, and BGSU. That's 1 more team than MT lost to.

Why brag about getting your butt beat by good teams (and BGSU) and chastise a team for winning the games they were supposed to?

Why are you chastising Troy for losing games they were already underdogs in? Yeah Troy lost to BGSU, but they turned out to be a good team. MT also got demolished by a bad Miss State in a game a lot of people thought they could win...

I don't really understand how this is even a discussion...

2006 21-20

2007 45-7

2008 31-17

2009 31-7

Total= 128-51

Now I know all about the overall record that dates back to the 1930's or whenever...but as for the last four years I find it hard to see a legitimate argument in favor of MT being the superior program.

You can argue the schedules all day long but when we meet on the field, Troy dominates. Will it happen this year? I don't know. I have a feeling the run might end this year, but Troy has rebuilt before and competed immediately when no one thought we could.

(07-11-2010 09:03 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 01:05 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  You forgot #11 Troy has destroyed MT dreams of being relevant in any sport in the SBC besides women's basketball.

Our dreams of being relevant? I'd say calling MT irrelevant in any SBC sport, with the possible exception of softball, is downright ignorant, that is unless you guys have finally convinced the conference to sponsor rodeo.

I'm going to take the ignorant comment as a personal insult, which is becoming the norm for the MT posters on this board. For a group that claims to be a classy organization one would hope their fans would follow the example.

My advice to you would to be have fun with the message boards and not worry to much about what others think about MT. If you feel strongly enough about a topic on a message board to make it personal than you should probably step away from the computer.

I'm not a Sun Belt Conference homer. There are a few teams that I pull for because of the classiness of their organizations or fans. That doesn't mean I hate the other schools, but I can't say that I pull for them.

The longer MT continues to be beaten by Troy in several major sports the worse the venom from the MT fans will get.

Hey Hemi, take the comment however you want, but it's the truth. Calling MT irrelevant in any sport outside of softball is IGNORANT, because you're essentially calling the majority of the conference irrelevant in nearly every sport.

Football, we'll start with Troy's four year run. You guys have been the dominant force in the conference for those four years, for sure, but in that time we have the second best record in the conference, tied for the second most bowl appearances, tied for the second most bowl victories and have the most OOC victories. So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

MBB, last year you swept us 2-0, but the year before that we split 1-1, the year before that we swept you 3-0, and the year before that you took 2 of 3 but we beat you in the tournament. We've been pretty even in MBB, aside from the fact that last year you went to the NIT and we went to the CIT. Neither one of us have been exceptional, but neither of us have been irrelevant either.

Baseball, in 2010, you took 3 of 5 and we both sat at home in the postseason. In 2009 you took 2 of 3, but you sat at home while we played in a super regional. In 2008 we took 2 of 3, we both sat at home. In 2007 we took 2 of 3. We've been pretty even in baseball, aside from our Super Regional appearance.

Do I really need to get in to WBB or Volleyball?

Look Hemi, either you didn't mean the comment as any thing other than a dig(understandable considering the thread you posted it in) or you meant it and it was a totally ignorant statement, so which is it?

(07-12-2010 12:14 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-12-2010 08:20 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 10:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 09:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Who's fault is that? I know we've certainly played our fill of outrageously touch schedules. Now we have our finances together and don't have to as much. Get your crap together and get out of the body bag games.

Troy's crap is together. Playing schedules like that is about as respectable as Ball State's 12-0 run, playing absolutely no one and getting exposed in the postseason for it.

Yeah, but there was no exposing of MT. We won our bowl game.

MT played a 7-6 USM. Troy played a 12-2 CMU with a Top 25 ranking. I would hope you wouldn't get exposed by a 7-6 USM.

A fair point, I don't think anyone would ever debate the better team out of Central Michigan and Southern Miss, but speaking of getting exposed by a 7-6 USM team...

In 2010 we beat a 7-5 USM team in the New Orleans Bowl to drop them to 7-6, in 2009 you guys lost to a 6-6 USM team to elevate them to 7-6...just sayin'.

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

No offense to anybody, but let's be completely realistic. Does anyone outside of the Sunbelt actually respect teams other than MT and Troy and maybe FAU? They don't, and that's a problem. But it's also the truth. In the national spotlight, they are irrelevant. Again, I'm not trying to piss on anyone, but we're at a time when we all need to step up, including Troy and MTSU. But the bottom line is the rest of the conference hasn't done much to garner any attention. ULM's win over BAMA was nice, probably the best win in sunbelt history. But it's long since forgotten by the rest of the country because for the most part, they haven't done anything else.

Now, the other argument - the one about ooc wins. This argument was never about who the better team is based on ooc - if you argue that, I don't see why. MT had a much weaker schedule and got more wins as a result. Replace Florida with Memphis and Troy easily has that tenth win. What it is, is a debate whether Troy should have selected weaker teams to play, and why or why not Troy does play these body bag games and MT doesn't play as many. But to make the argument that MTSU was a better team because they beat a bunch of nobodies is flawed.

(07-13-2010 02:18 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

No offense to anybody, but let's be completely realistic. Does anyone outside of the Sunbelt actually respect teams other than MT and Troy and maybe FAU? They don't, and that's a problem. But it's also the truth. In the national spotlight, they are irrelevant. Again, I'm not trying to piss on anyone, but we're at a time when we all need to step up, including Troy and MTSU. But the bottom line is the rest of the conference hasn't done much to garner any attention. ULM's win over BAMA was nice, probably the best win in sunbelt history. But it's long since forgotten by the rest of the country because for the most part, they haven't done anything else.

Now, the other argument - the one about ooc wins. This argument was never about who the better team is based on ooc - if you argue that, I don't see why. MT had a much weaker schedule and got more wins as a result. Replace Florida with Memphis and Troy easily has that tenth win. What it is, is a debate whether Troy should have selected weaker teams to play, and why or why not Troy does play these body bag games and MT doesn't play as many. But to make the argument that MTSU was a better team because they beat a bunch of nobodies is flawed.

Where did I say MT was the better team? The argument was relevance. Winning OOC games, no matter who they're against, is important. Did I say anywhere in that post that MT was better than Troy? No I didn't, I merely said that calling us irrelevant is ignorant.

(07-13-2010 02:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:18 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

No offense to anybody, but let's be completely realistic. Does anyone outside of the Sunbelt actually respect teams other than MT and Troy and maybe FAU? They don't, and that's a problem. But it's also the truth. In the national spotlight, they are irrelevant. Again, I'm not trying to piss on anyone, but we're at a time when we all need to step up, including Troy and MTSU. But the bottom line is the rest of the conference hasn't done much to garner any attention. ULM's win over BAMA was nice, probably the best win in sunbelt history. But it's long since forgotten by the rest of the country because for the most part, they haven't done anything else.

Now, the other argument - the one about ooc wins. This argument was never about who the better team is based on ooc - if you argue that, I don't see why. MT had a much weaker schedule and got more wins as a result. Replace Florida with Memphis and Troy easily has that tenth win. What it is, is a debate whether Troy should have selected weaker teams to play, and why or why not Troy does play these body bag games and MT doesn't play as many. But to make the argument that MTSU was a better team because they beat a bunch of nobodies is flawed.

Where did I say MT was the better team? The argument was relevance. Winning OOC games, no matter who they're against, is important. Did I say anywhere in that post that MT was better than Troy? No I didn't, I merely said that calling us irrelevant is ignorant.

Whoa whoa, slow your roll. I meant MT fans in general, because some of them have used that argument in the past. When I said "if you argue that" I did not mean you, but i meant as a collective, or an "if anyone" statement. Calm down there, hoss. Do I think MT is irrelevant? Hell no. In terms of football, MT is close to Troy, not there yet, but close. It's not even quite yet. BUT, in terms of overall athletics, it's really hard to argue that MT is irrelevant. Overall, they're just as relevant as Troy is, if not more relevant. Troy needs to strive to match that overall success and then exceed it, and they're working hard at it. I didn't mean to piss you off, I think we were both misinterpreted. It's difficult at times to separate the individual for the whole when dealing with fan bases.

(07-13-2010 02:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:18 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

No offense to anybody, but let's be completely realistic. Does anyone outside of the Sunbelt actually respect teams other than MT and Troy and maybe FAU? They don't, and that's a problem. But it's also the truth. In the national spotlight, they are irrelevant. Again, I'm not trying to piss on anyone, but we're at a time when we all need to step up, including Troy and MTSU. But the bottom line is the rest of the conference hasn't done much to garner any attention. ULM's win over BAMA was nice, probably the best win in sunbelt history. But it's long since forgotten by the rest of the country because for the most part, they haven't done anything else.

Now, the other argument - the one about ooc wins. This argument was never about who the better team is based on ooc - if you argue that, I don't see why. MT had a much weaker schedule and got more wins as a result. Replace Florida with Memphis and Troy easily has that tenth win. What it is, is a debate whether Troy should have selected weaker teams to play, and why or why not Troy does play these body bag games and MT doesn't play as many. But to make the argument that MTSU was a better team because they beat a bunch of nobodies is flawed.

Where did I say MT was the better team? The argument was relevance. Winning OOC games, no matter who they're against, is important. Did I say anywhere in that post that MT was better than Troy? No I didn't, I merely said that calling us irrelevant is ignorant.

Whoa whoa, slow your roll. I meant MT fans in general, because some of them have used that argument in the past. When I said "if you argue that" I did not mean you, but i meant as a collective, or an "if anyone" statement. Calm down there, hoss. Do I think MT is irrelevant? Hell no. In terms of football, MT is close to Troy, not there yet, but close. It's not even quite yet. BUT, in terms of overall athletics, it's really hard to argue that MT is irrelevant. Overall, they're just as relevant as Troy is, if not more relevant. Troy needs to strive to match that overall success and then exceed it, and they're working hard at it. I didn't mean to piss you off, I think we were both misinterpreted. It's difficult at times to separate the individual for the whole when dealing with fan bases.

Misinterpreted for sure, I didn't mean for my previous post to come off as anything other than firmly reiterating my point.

In regards to your argument about "MT fans in general" I think that anyone that argues that MT has a superior football program to Troy is dumb. I think that anyone that argues that MT had a better team than Troy last year based solely on the fact that we had a better record, is also dumb. There's no debate that our schedules were highly unbalanced last year.

All that being said...I will argue that MT and Troy's teams were much closer than what showed on the field in Troy that horrible day last fall. I do think that our performances against the other 7 conference team merits that. At the end of the day does it really matter? Not really, if anything it makes things worse for me, because I know we were better than what showed up that day. Were we good enough to beat Troy last year...maybe, but I can't say for sure. Honestly after all the talk that Tony Franklin said about it being difficult to go down to Troy and match up against old friends and former players, combined with the fact that he left MT after just one year for a job that paid just a little bit more and really was no better of a job, really makes me question whether or not TF's heart was in beating the Trojans. That doesn't mean I'm blaming the loss on that, nor am I saying that Franklin threw the game, but there was something clearly very off with MT that day and when you compare our other 7 common opponents it's clear that the disparity in talent was not that great...maybe Tony Franklin's heart was in it and we just had a bad night, I don't know, but I do know that we were a better team than what showed up that night, but that does not mean that I think we were a better team than Troy, just that we were better than what we showed and that I believe we were a good enough team to beat Troy on another day.

(07-13-2010 02:51 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:18 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

No offense to anybody, but let's be completely realistic. Does anyone outside of the Sunbelt actually respect teams other than MT and Troy and maybe FAU? They don't, and that's a problem. But it's also the truth. In the national spotlight, they are irrelevant. Again, I'm not trying to piss on anyone, but we're at a time when we all need to step up, including Troy and MTSU. But the bottom line is the rest of the conference hasn't done much to garner any attention. ULM's win over BAMA was nice, probably the best win in sunbelt history. But it's long since forgotten by the rest of the country because for the most part, they haven't done anything else.

Now, the other argument - the one about ooc wins. This argument was never about who the better team is based on ooc - if you argue that, I don't see why. MT had a much weaker schedule and got more wins as a result. Replace Florida with Memphis and Troy easily has that tenth win. What it is, is a debate whether Troy should have selected weaker teams to play, and why or why not Troy does play these body bag games and MT doesn't play as many. But to make the argument that MTSU was a better team because they beat a bunch of nobodies is flawed.

Where did I say MT was the better team? The argument was relevance. Winning OOC games, no matter who they're against, is important. Did I say anywhere in that post that MT was better than Troy? No I didn't, I merely said that calling us irrelevant is ignorant.

Whoa whoa, slow your roll. I meant MT fans in general, because some of them have used that argument in the past. When I said "if you argue that" I did not mean you, but i meant as a collective, or an "if anyone" statement. Calm down there, hoss. Do I think MT is irrelevant? Hell no. In terms of football, MT is close to Troy, not there yet, but close. It's not even quite yet. BUT, in terms of overall athletics, it's really hard to argue that MT is irrelevant. Overall, they're just as relevant as Troy is, if not more relevant. Troy needs to strive to match that overall success and then exceed it, and they're working hard at it. I didn't mean to piss you off, I think we were both misinterpreted. It's difficult at times to separate the individual for the whole when dealing with fan bases.

Misinterpreted for sure, I didn't mean for my previous post to come off as anything other than firmly reiterating my point.

In regards to your argument about "MT fans in general" I think that anyone that argues that MT has a superior football program to Troy is dumb. I think that anyone that argues that MT had a better team than Troy last year based solely on the fact that we had a better record, is also dumb. There's no debate that our schedules were highly unbalanced last year.

All that being said...I will argue that MT and Troy's teams were much closer than what showed on the field in Troy that horrible day last fall. I do think that our performances against the other 7 conference team merits that. At the end of the day does it really matter? Not really, if anything it makes things worse for me, because I know we were better than what showed up that day. Were we good enough to beat Troy last year...maybe, but I can't say for sure. Honestly after all the talk that Tony Franklin said about it being difficult to go down to Troy and match up against old friends and former players, combined with the fact that he left MT after just one year for a job that paid just a little bit more and really was no better of a job, really makes me question whether or not TF's heart was in beating the Trojans. That doesn't mean I'm blaming the loss on that, nor am I saying that Franklin threw the game, but there was something clearly very off with MT that day and when you compare our other 7 common opponents it's clear that the disparity in talent was not that great...maybe Tony Franklin's heart was in it and we just had a bad night, I don't know, but I do know that we were a better team than what showed up that night, but that does not mean that I think we were a better team than Troy, just that we were better than what we showed and that I believe we were a good enough team to beat Troy on another day.

I agree with all of that you just said. It's possibly Tony Franklin had some effect, but you can't count out Troy's phenomenal d-line play that night. They played their best game of the season, and I think that contributed to Dasher's inaccuracy. Our linebackers were so fast Dasher couldn't really go anywhere so he didn't try to run often.

I will say this in regards to Tony Franklin - It's my belief that if he had run more NASCAR and tried to wear down our defense, we would have seen a much different score.

While you played as good or better against our conference mates, I think part of that was turnovers, where Troy did all of that without them. To me, turnovers can be a team strength, but they can also be a sign of team weakness, that maybe they weren't as good as they look - like FAU in 2007. I think MTSU will improve as a team, but it's unknown how losing the best players MT has had causing turnovers will affect the team. Very rarely do teams with really high turnover margins have that same luck the year after. Who knows how that will turn out, but it's something to think about in the preseason and to keep a close eye on.

no MTPiKapp has it right. It was our master plan actually, let Franklin go to Auburn knowing they'd fire him. then we can get him in at MTSU and SABOTAGE the MUTS chances of beating us in 2009.

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 09:03 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 01:05 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  You forgot #11 Troy has destroyed MT dreams of being relevant in any sport in the SBC besides women's basketball.

Our dreams of being relevant? I'd say calling MT irrelevant in any SBC sport, with the possible exception of softball, is downright ignorant, that is unless you guys have finally convinced the conference to sponsor rodeo.

I'm going to take the ignorant comment as a personal insult, which is becoming the norm for the MT posters on this board. For a group that claims to be a classy organization one would hope their fans would follow the example.

My advice to you would to be have fun with the message boards and not worry to much about what others think about MT. If you feel strongly enough about a topic on a message board to make it personal than you should probably step away from the computer.

I'm not a Sun Belt Conference homer. There are a few teams that I pull for because of the classiness of their organizations or fans. That doesn't mean I hate the other schools, but I can't say that I pull for them.

The longer MT continues to be beaten by Troy in several major sports the worse the venom from the MT fans will get.

Hey Hemi, take the comment however you want, but it's the truth. Calling MT irrelevant in any sport outside of softball is IGNORANT, because you're essentially calling the majority of the conference irrelevant in nearly every sport.

Football, we'll start with Troy's four year run. You guys have been the dominant force in the conference for those four years, for sure, but in that time we have the second best record in the conference, tied for the second most bowl appearances, tied for the second most bowl victories and have the most OOC victories. So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

MBB, last year you swept us 2-0, but the year before that we split 1-1, the year before that we swept you 3-0, and the year before that you took 2 of 3 but we beat you in the tournament. We've been pretty even in MBB, aside from the fact that last year you went to the NIT and we went to the CIT. Neither one of us have been exceptional, but neither of us have been irrelevant either.

Baseball, in 2010, you took 3 of 5 and we both sat at home in the postseason. In 2009 you took 2 of 3, but you sat at home while we played in a super regional. In 2008 we took 2 of 3, we both sat at home. In 2007 we took 2 of 3. We've been pretty even in baseball, aside from our Super Regional appearance.

Do I really need to get in to WBB or Volleyball?

Look Hemi, either you didn't mean the comment as any thing other than a dig(understandable considering the thread you posted it in) or you meant it and it was a totally ignorant statement, so which is it?

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It was a shot at MT, just as the thread was started as shot at Troy. Some people tend to take this smack stuff to seriously. It's all in fun. What I think of MT is irrelevant to you and vice versa.

(07-13-2010 03:34 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 09:03 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 01:05 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  You forgot #11 Troy has destroyed MT dreams of being relevant in any sport in the SBC besides women's basketball.

Our dreams of being relevant? I'd say calling MT irrelevant in any SBC sport, with the possible exception of softball, is downright ignorant, that is unless you guys have finally convinced the conference to sponsor rodeo.

I'm going to take the ignorant comment as a personal insult, which is becoming the norm for the MT posters on this board. For a group that claims to be a classy organization one would hope their fans would follow the example.

My advice to you would to be have fun with the message boards and not worry to much about what others think about MT. If you feel strongly enough about a topic on a message board to make it personal than you should probably step away from the computer.

I'm not a Sun Belt Conference homer. There are a few teams that I pull for because of the classiness of their organizations or fans. That doesn't mean I hate the other schools, but I can't say that I pull for them.

The longer MT continues to be beaten by Troy in several major sports the worse the venom from the MT fans will get.

Hey Hemi, take the comment however you want, but it's the truth. Calling MT irrelevant in any sport outside of softball is IGNORANT, because you're essentially calling the majority of the conference irrelevant in nearly every sport.

Football, we'll start with Troy's four year run. You guys have been the dominant force in the conference for those four years, for sure, but in that time we have the second best record in the conference, tied for the second most bowl appearances, tied for the second most bowl victories and have the most OOC victories. So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

MBB, last year you swept us 2-0, but the year before that we split 1-1, the year before that we swept you 3-0, and the year before that you took 2 of 3 but we beat you in the tournament. We've been pretty even in MBB, aside from the fact that last year you went to the NIT and we went to the CIT. Neither one of us have been exceptional, but neither of us have been irrelevant either.

Baseball, in 2010, you took 3 of 5 and we both sat at home in the postseason. In 2009 you took 2 of 3, but you sat at home while we played in a super regional. In 2008 we took 2 of 3, we both sat at home. In 2007 we took 2 of 3. We've been pretty even in baseball, aside from our Super Regional appearance.

Do I really need to get in to WBB or Volleyball?

Look Hemi, either you didn't mean the comment as any thing other than a dig(understandable considering the thread you posted it in) or you meant it and it was a totally ignorant statement, so which is it?

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It was a shot at MT, just as the thread was started as shot at Troy. Some people tend to take this smack stuff to seriously. It's all in fun. What I think of MT is irrelevant to you and vice versa.

Well not to point the finger at you Hemi, but you're the one that said you took the ignorant comment as a personal insult. I figured the comment was just a dig, but you're the one who's feathers got all ruffled over a little smack...

Hey is it September yet?

(07-13-2010 03:38 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 03:34 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-13-2010 02:06 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 09:03 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-11-2010 01:05 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  You forgot #11 Troy has destroyed MT dreams of being relevant in any sport in the SBC besides women's basketball.

Our dreams of being relevant? I'd say calling MT irrelevant in any SBC sport, with the possible exception of softball, is downright ignorant, that is unless you guys have finally convinced the conference to sponsor rodeo.

I'm going to take the ignorant comment as a personal insult, which is becoming the norm for the MT posters on this board. For a group that claims to be a classy organization one would hope their fans would follow the example.

My advice to you would to be have fun with the message boards and not worry to much about what others think about MT. If you feel strongly enough about a topic on a message board to make it personal than you should probably step away from the computer.

I'm not a Sun Belt Conference homer. There are a few teams that I pull for because of the classiness of their organizations or fans. That doesn't mean I hate the other schools, but I can't say that I pull for them.

The longer MT continues to be beaten by Troy in several major sports the worse the venom from the MT fans will get.

Hey Hemi, take the comment however you want, but it's the truth. Calling MT irrelevant in any sport outside of softball is IGNORANT, because you're essentially calling the majority of the conference irrelevant in nearly every sport.

Football, we'll start with Troy's four year run. You guys have been the dominant force in the conference for those four years, for sure, but in that time we have the second best record in the conference, tied for the second most bowl appearances, tied for the second most bowl victories and have the most OOC victories. So if MT is irrelevant in football, what does that make the rest of the conference, non-existent?

MBB, last year you swept us 2-0, but the year before that we split 1-1, the year before that we swept you 3-0, and the year before that you took 2 of 3 but we beat you in the tournament. We've been pretty even in MBB, aside from the fact that last year you went to the NIT and we went to the CIT. Neither one of us have been exceptional, but neither of us have been irrelevant either.

Baseball, in 2010, you took 3 of 5 and we both sat at home in the postseason. In 2009 you took 2 of 3, but you sat at home while we played in a super regional. In 2008 we took 2 of 3, we both sat at home. In 2007 we took 2 of 3. We've been pretty even in baseball, aside from our Super Regional appearance.

Do I really need to get in to WBB or Volleyball?

Look Hemi, either you didn't mean the comment as any thing other than a dig(understandable considering the thread you posted it in) or you meant it and it was a totally ignorant statement, so which is it?

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It was a shot at MT, just as the thread was started as shot at Troy. Some people tend to take this smack stuff to seriously. It's all in fun. What I think of MT is irrelevant to you and vice versa.

Well not to point the finger at you Hemi, but you're the one that said you took the ignorant comment as a personal insult. I figured the comment was just a dig, but you're the one who's feathers got all ruffled over a little smack...

Hey is it September yet?

September? WHO CARES! October 5th is where its at! BRING IT ON MUTS!