(06-22-2010 03:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK guys, here it is. What appeared to be in interesting development turned out to be just like every other "insider stuff" - garbage.

Thanks for wasting our time then.

Care to elaborate on why you now know its garbage?

(06-22-2010 10:39 AM)OrangeCrush Wrote:  You don't improve the image of the conference from a FB perspective by adding C-USA schools. Maybe one, maybe two, but increasing our league by 50% with C-USA schools would cause more damage to the conference than good.

(06-22-2010 03:46 PM)KnightTower Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK guys, here it is. What appeared to be in interesting development turned out to be just like every other "insider stuff" - garbage.

Thanks for wasting our time then.

Care to elaborate on why you now know its garbage?

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Notre Dame rumor.

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

(06-22-2010 03:50 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 10:39 AM)OrangeCrush Wrote:  You don't improve the image of the conference from a FB perspective by adding C-USA schools. Maybe one, maybe two, but increasing our league by 50% with C-USA schools would cause more damage to the conference than good.

I'll add a few

(06-22-2010 03:46 PM)KnightTower Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK guys, here it is. What appeared to be in interesting development turned out to be just like every other "insider stuff" - garbage.

Thanks for wasting our time then.

Care to elaborate on why you now know its garbage?

Spare me fake outrage. Do you realize how much garbage has been posted on this board over the course of the year that was all speculation, false leads, etc? Where's your indignation over all the time you wasted on that other stuff?

(06-22-2010 04:05 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:46 PM)KnightTower Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK guys, here it is. What appeared to be in interesting development turned out to be just like every other "insider stuff" - garbage.

Thanks for wasting our time then.

Care to elaborate on why you now know its garbage?

Spare me fake outrage. Do you realize how much garbage has been posted on this board over the course of the year that was all speculation, false leads, etc? Where's your indignation over all the time you wasted on that other stuff?

No outrage. Just wondering why you're backing off your story.

(06-22-2010 04:01 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

-I think if you ask WVU who their second rilvary in the last few years within the BE....it might be one of the those crappy C-USA teams.

-If you polled the 8 members + Notre Dame who has contributed to the league the most in ranking order since us crappy C-USA teams joined, Pitt would be at best 4th or 5th

-There is no need to act like this. Rilvaries build as you've seen Cincy and Rutgers and Cincy and Pitt ramp up quickly in addition to WVU and USF and WVU and UL.

(06-22-2010 03:55 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:46 PM)KnightTower Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK guys, here it is. What appeared to be in interesting development turned out to be just like every other "insider stuff" - garbage.

Thanks for wasting our time then.

Care to elaborate on why you now know its garbage?

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Notre Dame rumor.

It was about ND, but I'm not getting into it anymore. I don't think anyone really knows what is going on until whatever decisions are made are announced.

(06-22-2010 04:07 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:01 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

-I think if you ask WVU who their second rilvary in the last few years within the BE....it might be one of the those crappy C-USA teams.

-If you polled the 8 members + Notre Dame who has contributed to the league the most in ranking order since us crappy C-USA teams joined, Pitt would be at best 4th or 5th

-There is no need to act like this. Rilvaries build as you've seen Cincy and Rutgers and Cincy and Pitt ramp up quickly in addition to WVU and USF and WVU and UL.

You're reading something into my post that wasn't there at all. The 3 schools that left the BE were schools that Pitt had history with. We did not have the same history with the new schools. I did not call your schools crappy. Go ahead and take your poll to see who meant the most to the BE. If you want to talk about how Pitt does not add anything athletically to the conference, that's your choice. Just remember that the Pitt, SU and RU weaklings were the major players that were able to keep this conference together. Also, it was ND's relationships with the remaining BE members and the catholic BB schools that made possible for you to land in a BCS conference in the first place.

If you want to go down the arrogance trail, many of you UL fans should look in the mirror. All of you fools were giddy over some "insider" info of your own about how you and Memphis were on your way to the BXII and that you were going to leave the POS conference known as the BE. Suck it....

(06-22-2010 04:24 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:07 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:01 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

-I think if you ask WVU who their second rilvary in the last few years within the BE....it might be one of the those crappy C-USA teams.

-If you polled the 8 members + Notre Dame who has contributed to the league the most in ranking order since us crappy C-USA teams joined, Pitt would be at best 4th or 5th

-There is no need to act like this. Rilvaries build as you've seen Cincy and Rutgers and Cincy and Pitt ramp up quickly in addition to WVU and USF and WVU and UL.

You're reading something into my post that wasn't there at all. The 3 schools that left the BE were schools that Pitt had history with. We did not have the same history with the new schools. I did not call your schools crappy. Go ahead and take your poll to see who meant the most to the BE. If you want to talk about how Pitt does not add anything athletically to the conference, that's your choice. Just remember that the Pitt, SU and RU weaklings were the major players that were able to keep this conference together. Also, it was ND's relationships with the remaining BE members and the catholic BB schools that made possible for you to land in a BCS conference in the first place.

If you want to go down the arrogance trail, many of you UL fans should look in the mirror. All of you fools were giddy over some "insider" info of your own about how you and Memphis were on your way to the BXII and that you were going to leave the POS conference known as the BE. Suck it....

Notre Dame hand picked UL to join the conference.....UL would have been in a BCS conference no matter what Pitt contributed to the deal.

Not many UL fans have run with any rumors that we were/are heading the Big 12. A thread like this just brought on these replies. Starting with teasing and not telling anyone whats going on, except "Pitt fans check your inboxes"....please you could have done that privately had you not needed all the attention on here.

UL is in a well positioned place for the BE and many other surrounding opportunities do to taking care of our facilities first, having fan support (Pitt lacks), on field results, and revenue generating brand we bring all around. No worries for us to land on our feet if you guys want to give this C-USA team to the curb.

Truth be told I think both of you guys are being pretty arrogant right now. Everyone paid a part in saving this conference. It's just amazing that people want their program to take the majority of credit instead of giving everyone credit.

Hint Hint....

(06-22-2010 02:36 AM)animus Wrote:  It is amazing what people beleive on messegeboards... shhhhhhhhh

(06-22-2010 05:09 PM)animus Wrote:  Hint Hint....

(06-22-2010 02:36 AM)animus Wrote:  It is amazing what people beleive on messegeboards... shhhhhhhhh

Hmmmm. . . . . . . .

I will get to see more games now.

(06-22-2010 04:35 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:24 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:07 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:01 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

-I think if you ask WVU who their second rilvary in the last few years within the BE....it might be one of the those crappy C-USA teams.

-If you polled the 8 members + Notre Dame who has contributed to the league the most in ranking order since us crappy C-USA teams joined, Pitt would be at best 4th or 5th

-There is no need to act like this. Rilvaries build as you've seen Cincy and Rutgers and Cincy and Pitt ramp up quickly in addition to WVU and USF and WVU and UL.

You're reading something into my post that wasn't there at all. The 3 schools that left the BE were schools that Pitt had history with. We did not have the same history with the new schools. I did not call your schools crappy. Go ahead and take your poll to see who meant the most to the BE. If you want to talk about how Pitt does not add anything athletically to the conference, that's your choice. Just remember that the Pitt, SU and RU weaklings were the major players that were able to keep this conference together. Also, it was ND's relationships with the remaining BE members and the catholic BB schools that made possible for you to land in a BCS conference in the first place.

If you want to go down the arrogance trail, many of you UL fans should look in the mirror. All of you fools were giddy over some "insider" info of your own about how you and Memphis were on your way to the BXII and that you were going to leave the POS conference known as the BE. Suck it....

Notre Dame hand picked UL to join the conference.....UL would have been in a BCS conference no matter what Pitt contributed to the deal.

Not many UL fans have run with any rumors that we were/are heading the Big 12. A thread like this just brought on these replies. Starting with teasing and not telling anyone whats going on, except "Pitt fans check your inboxes"....please you could have done that privately had you not needed all the attention on here.

UL is in a well positioned place for the BE and many other surrounding opportunities do to taking care of our facilities first, having fan support (Pitt lacks), on field results, and revenue generating brand we bring all around. No worries for us to land on our feet if you guys want to give this C-USA team to the curb.

Yeah, you're right. Fortunately, you UL guys haven't done anything like that....hmmmm.....for at least a month now, right? You and the the other UL buddies along with a few of your Memphis friends thought it would be fun to spread all sorts of "secret" messages around back then. Sucks being on the other end, doesn't it? Wasn't it Cardinal Jim that kicked it off and his merry little sheep lined up and blathered on about the super secret insider info that you couldn't share with anyone....spare me....

(06-22-2010 10:23 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:35 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:24 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:07 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 04:01 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-22-2010 03:30 PM)UofL07 Wrote:  Wonder if the miko33 on here is the same as the miko33 on the Pitt scout forum? Here are a few postings from the Pitt board from the poster there named miko33

"I'm going to say first off that I would rather Pitt be in the B10 or the ACC because I don't think Pitt has a lot in common with the majority of the BE schools. I too do not like the fact that 3 CUSA schools are BE members." (1)

"Unfortunately, even the most desirable non-BCS team being added to the BE will not prevent teams from leaving if the B10, ACC, SEC or even the BXII comes calling. As much as I do not like the having an unbalanced conference schedule, 5 OOC games are better than having only 4 OOC games (if 1 CUSA school added), considering the team being added. If the rumors of UCF and ECU joining the BE to make a 10 team conference is true, then having 3 OOC games to play with makes the margin of error for having a quality team schedule much harder. Plus, we would still be unbalanced. I would only support adding 2 CUSA schools (or more) if the BCS mandates that each conference must have a championship game and 12 teams are required to have said game. Then we would have no choice and would have to invite the turds...."(2)

1: I liked the BE football schools as they were originally set up. I did not like the fact that the BE was raided and we had to replace. I think UCONN was a good swap for Temple, but I would prefer if Miami, VT and BC were still in the league. Pitt has more history with these schools than with the more recent additions. I have never hid this from anyone on this board, and the reason I prefer the original schools is because that is what the conference was built on. Oh by the way, here is the rest of the post that my friend did not include - so that you get the full context as opposed to the snippet. Judge it as you wish, I don't care.

"However, I wonder how many of us had such strong feelings during the 2009 football season. I'll admit that I got caught up in the heat of the moment, and it appeared to me that the BE was actually building some degree of respectability. We saw it in the FB polls. It wasn't until the B10 announced their intentions to expand back in December did we get come back to reality. But it does pose the question, what would this league become if the other conferences were not going into expansion mode? I think the BE would become more established if given time to "grow" the relationships between the current football members.

But, we know that expansion is always hanging over the BE conf's head, I hope we get out soon."

2: Item 2 in your post is basically the same info I have posted here on a number of other threads. Most here should know that already.

-I think if you ask WVU who their second rilvary in the last few years within the BE....it might be one of the those crappy C-USA teams.

-If you polled the 8 members + Notre Dame who has contributed to the league the most in ranking order since us crappy C-USA teams joined, Pitt would be at best 4th or 5th

-There is no need to act like this. Rilvaries build as you've seen Cincy and Rutgers and Cincy and Pitt ramp up quickly in addition to WVU and USF and WVU and UL.

You're reading something into my post that wasn't there at all. The 3 schools that left the BE were schools that Pitt had history with. We did not have the same history with the new schools. I did not call your schools crappy. Go ahead and take your poll to see who meant the most to the BE. If you want to talk about how Pitt does not add anything athletically to the conference, that's your choice. Just remember that the Pitt, SU and RU weaklings were the major players that were able to keep this conference together. Also, it was ND's relationships with the remaining BE members and the catholic BB schools that made possible for you to land in a BCS conference in the first place.

If you want to go down the arrogance trail, many of you UL fans should look in the mirror. All of you fools were giddy over some "insider" info of your own about how you and Memphis were on your way to the BXII and that you were going to leave the POS conference known as the BE. Suck it....

Notre Dame hand picked UL to join the conference.....UL would have been in a BCS conference no matter what Pitt contributed to the deal.

Not many UL fans have run with any rumors that we were/are heading the Big 12. A thread like this just brought on these replies. Starting with teasing and not telling anyone whats going on, except "Pitt fans check your inboxes"....please you could have done that privately had you not needed all the attention on here.

UL is in a well positioned place for the BE and many other surrounding opportunities do to taking care of our facilities first, having fan support (Pitt lacks), on field results, and revenue generating brand we bring all around. No worries for us to land on our feet if you guys want to give this C-USA team to the curb.

Yeah, you're right. Fortunately, you UL guys haven't done anything like that....hmmmm.....for at least a month now, right? You and the the other UL buddies along with a few of your Memphis friends thought it would be fun to spread all sorts of "secret" messages around back then. Sucks being on the other end, doesn't it? Wasn't it Cardinal Jim that kicked it off and his merry little sheep lined up and blathered on about the super secret insider info that you couldn't share with anyone....spare me....

Well if you care to know what you were missing. I ask CJ over a month ago to turn on his PM because all I had to tell him was that I was going back in forth with PMs with a well known insider that the UL fans here can vouge for. Nothing ever made out of it, I didn't get anything worth while to share, and the same UL fans, a Memphis and Pitt fan can vouge for that. The timing of my PM's with this source and CJ's post of UL and the insiders going on lockdown were in lockstep with each other...so things were happening at the time to become ultrasensative of letting anything out.

Now whats the point in making accusations and getting personal over any of this? You have a difference of opinion about what UL, UC, USF, brings to the conference, you obviously come on board with other CUSA teams to join, per YOUR TITLE of this thread. So it sounds like you need to clarify with yourself what you want first before trying to slam CUSA former or current teams When we see quotes of your posts from your board slamming former and present C-USA teams and coming across as top shelf vs the rest of us...yes the defense and attack mechanisms will kick in.......when you can decide on what you really want get back to me and the rest of the board, I will kindly agree with or disagree with your points about the current state of the conference and where you think or I think the conference should go. I know I've delivered a clear and concise message of what I think, you not so much...