(02-05-2010 11:48 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 12:06 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  Might have quoted the wrong post. I think he might have been referring to Doc's post. Not to start a scuffle or anything....

I'll take credit for that post. I was just needling Jim a little bit, who was needling Bob. But I have no doubt that if we had possessed a timeout, it would have been called when Alex got that rebound, and it's highly doubtful if we could have gotten off a halfway decent shot in 3.9 seconds with their half court, or maybe even full court defense set up.But that's just speculation, since we didn't call time out, and Alex made the winning shot. It's all irrelevant anyway, since we won. I was at the "Miracle on Markham". This was the "Miracle on University"?

I can take "needling', and give it out, and I do my share of that. I just don't like "knives." As far as your statement about what if we'd had a timeout, things might have been different. Sure, they could have if ASU had been able to set up in a press after a time out. But it didn't happen, so we'll never know. Who give a **** anyway, it turned out the way we wanted it to, although there's probably not one of us here that felt real confident that we'd win the game at that point.

I thought the clock was at 3.9 second at that time. I think Jeff stated in the paper that it was 3.2 seconds.

(02-05-2010 12:29 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 11:48 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 12:06 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  Might have quoted the wrong post. I think he might have been referring to Doc's post. Not to start a scuffle or anything....

I'll take credit for that post. I was just needling Jim a little bit, who was needling Bob. But I have no doubt that if we had possessed a timeout, it would have been called when Alex got that rebound, and it's highly doubtful if we could have gotten off a halfway decent shot in 3.9 seconds with their half court, or maybe even full court defense set up.But that's just speculation, since we didn't call time out, and Alex made the winning shot. It's all irrelevant anyway, since we won. I was at the "Miracle on Markham". This was the "Miracle on University"?

I can take "needling', and give it out, and I do my share of that. I just don't like "knives." As far as your statement about what if we'd had a timeout, things might have been different. Sure, they could have if ASU had been able to set up in a press after a time out. But it didn't happen, so we'll never know. Who give a **** anyway, it turned out the way we wanted it to, although there's probably not one of us here that felt real confident that we'd win the game at that point.

I thought the clock was at 3.9 second at that time. I think Jeff stated in the paper that it was 3.2 seconds.

I believe it was originally set at 3.2 after the alleged foul. After reviewing the type I think the refs set it back to 3.9.

(02-05-2010 12:31 PM)mjs Wrote:  I believe it was originally set at 3.2 after the alleged foul. After reviewing the type I think the refs set it back to 3.9.

I thought I remembered 3.9 from somewhere.

My memory and intelligence are very poor, given the "rube" and "redneck" that I am. That said, it was 3.9.

Out.

It was 3.9, they put .7 back after the foul.

Coaching was the difference?

Afraid not.

ASU from the field 39.4% UALR 47.2% from behind the arc ASU 28.6% UALR 52.6% UALR outscored ASU by 12 from 3 point land, scoring was even from the line.

UALR shot well and won, stAte couldn't buy basket most of the game. That's the difference not which person screamed the most or paid the least regard to the coaching box.

(02-05-2010 02:14 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Coaching was the difference?

Afraid not.

ASU from the field 39.4% UALR 47.2% from behind the arc ASU 28.6% UALR 52.6% UALR outscored ASU by 12 from 3 point land, scoring was even from the line.

UALR shot well and won, stAte couldn't buy basket most of the game. That's the difference not which person screamed the most or paid the least regard to the coaching box.

Ya, they both did a lot of screaming. I sit right near the court and I didn't have a clue what they were screaming about most of the time. There were probably some bad calls, but they went both ways.

(02-05-2010 02:14 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Coaching was the difference?

Afraid not.

ASU from the field 39.4% UALR 47.2% from behind the arc ASU 28.6% UALR 52.6% UALR outscored ASU by 12 from 3 point land, scoring was even from the line.

UALR shot well and won, stAte couldn't buy basket most of the game. That's the difference not which person screamed the most or paid the least regard to the coaching box.

3 point shooting vs rebounding

rebounding usually wins

(02-05-2010 02:19 PM)insideualr Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 02:14 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Coaching was the difference?

Afraid not.

ASU from the field 39.4% UALR 47.2% from behind the arc ASU 28.6% UALR 52.6% UALR outscored ASU by 12 from 3 point land, scoring was even from the line.

UALR shot well and won, stAte couldn't buy basket most of the game. That's the difference not which person screamed the most or paid the least regard to the coaching box.

3 point shooting vs rebounding

rebounding usually wins

That's because teams usually don't rack up thirty points from the arc on 19 tries. Hit 42% from 3pt over a season and you've got a shot at leading the country. Some nights you are just on and the Trojans were hot from outside.

(02-05-2010 02:26 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 02:19 PM)insideualr Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 02:14 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Coaching was the difference?

Afraid not.

ASU from the field 39.4% UALR 47.2% from behind the arc ASU 28.6% UALR 52.6% UALR outscored ASU by 12 from 3 point land, scoring was even from the line.

UALR shot well and won, stAte couldn't buy basket most of the game. That's the difference not which person screamed the most or paid the least regard to the coaching box.

3 point shooting vs rebounding

rebounding usually wins

That's because teams usually don't rack up thirty points from the arc on 19 tries. Hit 42% from 3pt over a season and you've got a shot at leading the country. Some nights you are just on and the Trojans were hot from outside.

I don't think anyone here denies that we shot better than we normally shoot, but without a doubt, I believe that Shields putting the press on ASU late in the game paid off big for the Trojans, and got us back in the game.

(02-05-2010 12:08 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  

(02-05-2010 12:10 AM)mjs Wrote:  Thank you for clearing that up eh9198. I certainly was not referring to anything LRTrojan said, as he was most complimentary of Steve's ability to get the most out of his kids in tonight's win.

In fact here is my post LRTrojan: No, but suggesting we won "despite" Steve is totally ridiculous and YOU OBVIOUSLY DON"T BELIEVE THAT.

Sorry Mickey, but since you were posting behind my post, I assumed wrongly, that you were responding to mine. While advocating a change, I've always tried to give Steve credit when he has it coming. I don't recall ever being nasty about him, unless maybe it happened on one or two occasions when Jim has pissed me off about something he's said. Steve deserved the credit last night, especially the last eight or ten minutes of the game he coached a damn good game.

Hey, Bob. I've p----d you off? Sorry. Just having fun sometimes. I don't take anything personally and don't intend to offend you in any way.