Tell me about Georgia Southern's basketball successes including NCAA appearances and wins.

(01-27-2010 12:26 PM)galojah Wrote:  Tell me about Georgia Southern's basketball successes including NCAA appearances and wins.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

Here is the all time Sagarin rankings. GSU is ahead of 4 SB teams and very close to MTSU. Not great, but not bad for a football school.

(01-27-2010 01:24 AM)canewton Wrote:  

(01-26-2010 08:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-26-2010 05:49 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(01-26-2010 05:27 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Hey, you won't find an argument from me. Our secondary is terrible. Smart money is on the Trojans, given Troy's penchant for tossing the ball.

:clap2: glad to see we have reasonable FCS fans here. some of the teams have just ridiculously lofty opinions of themselves.

yet another reason why I'd like to see Texas State in the Sun Belt. good program and good fans.

Don't take this the wrong way, but all I am saying is that GSU has proven they can win like no other team.

6 national championships in 8 title game appearances over a 15 year period. Out of ~240 FBS and FCS teams no other school has had a run like that. GSU has proven it can win on the field. What the Sun Belt needs the most is respect on the field and GSU has the potential to bring that better than anyone.

You realize having a national championship in FCS means nothing from the perspective of FBS right?

I can't argue with that given the SB is made up of former IAA teams and there are only 2 FCS championships by all current members combined. You can also make the correlation that not winning at the FCS level probably means not winning at the FBS level.

So far Troy is the only SB team that has stepped their game up. MTSU seems to be turning the corner, but Tennessee is a tough state to recruit in so they will always have their work cut out for them. Outside of that it has been status quo. The SB needs some teams that have the potential to win a lot and help the conference reputation which helps all the teams.

fire away!

(01-27-2010 01:00 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  I can't argue with that given the SB is made up of former IAA teams and there are only 2 FCS championships by all current members combined. You can also make the correlation that not winning at the FCS level probably means not winning at the FBS level.

So far Troy is the only SB team that has stepped their game up. MTSU seems to be turning the corner, but Tennessee is a tough state to recruit in so they will always have their work cut out for them. Outside of that it has been status quo. The SB needs some teams that have the potential to win a lot and help the conference reputation which helps all the teams.

fire away!

boom

(01-26-2010 08:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Don't take this the wrong way, but all I am saying is that GSU has proven they can win like no other team.

6 national championships in 8 title game appearances over a 15 year period. Out of ~240 FBS and FCS teams no other school has had a run like that. GSU has proven it can win on the field. What the Sun Belt needs the most is respect on the field and GSU has the potential to bring that better than anyone.

It seems like only yesterday, we were hearing the same thing from WKU fans.....

What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.

MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

(01-27-2010 01:37 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.
MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

We have a new President that began work on 1/1/10. Hopefully he will can our unpopular AD. Our previous President was from the anti-athletics UC Berkely crowd......we have hope that our new President has aspirations to take us to the next level. He has been quoted as saying athletics is the front door of the University so hopefully he can take us somewhere.

What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

(01-28-2010 11:58 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

No thanks

(01-28-2010 11:58 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

I'm a big Lamar fan but Lamar is at least 5 years away before they are ready to join a FBS conference. They are currently spending $30 million on athletic facility improvements but they still have a lot of work to do. They do have plans to expand the stadium to 35K+ but that's not happening anytime soon.

Lamar has been busy correcting a decade of decline (both academically and athletically) but they still have a ways to go. I doubt the administration has any plans to leave the SLC until they know they are ready.

(01-28-2010 11:58 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

tried to look up their attendance #'s but they didn't show up.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?...index.html

(01-28-2010 06:10 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-28-2010 11:58 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

Barely heard of them......tried to look up their attendance #'s but they didn't show up.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?...index.html

Lamar were members of the Sun Belt in the 1990s but the previous administration let the school decline both academically and athletically so they left for the Southland Conference. Once upon a time Lamar made it to the sweet sixteen in basketball, beat Baylor in football (pre-Big 12 days), finished #3 in the country in golf, and regularly made the playoffs in baseball.

You didn't find any football attendance numbers because they haven't had a team in 21 years. They start playing this fall and have already sold 3,000 season tickets in less than a week. Like any other school, unless they can find a way to make a difference in football or basketball there's not much point in taking the next step up.

Here's a video of Lamar playing at Arizona State in 1988 in which they lost 24-13: http://www.youtube.com/bmttxsmith

(01-28-2010 01:43 PM)coachacola Wrote:  

(01-28-2010 11:58 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  What do you guys think about Lamar becoming a member of the Belt? Just asking.

I'm a big Lamar fan but Lamar is at least 5 years away before they are ready to join a FBS conference. They are currently spending $30 million on athletic facility improvements but they still have a lot of work to do. They do have plans to expand the stadium to 35K+ but that's not happening anytime soon.

Lamar has been busy correcting a decade of decline (both academically and athletically) but they still have a ways to go. I doubt the administration has any plans to leave the SLC until they know they are ready.

Lamar has a history with some of the current SBC schools; as I recall it was Lamar and UTA that led the way when the SLC was moving to D1 in football. This was before the creation of 1-A and 1-AA. I was an undergrad at stAte; it was a LONG time ago . . .

(01-28-2010 01:43 PM)coachacola Wrote:  Lamar has been busy correcting a decade of decline (both academically and athletically) but they still have a ways to go.

When I was down there a year ago it didn't seem like there had been a commitment to improve on-campus student life for a long time. There does seem to be potential for the campus. I don't know about Beaumont though. I'm not sure there is much growing going to happen there.

(01-27-2010 05:37 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 01:37 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.
MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

We have a new President that began work on 1/1/10. Hopefully he will can our unpopular AD. Our previous President was from the anti-athletics UC Berkely crowd......we have hope that our new President has aspirations to take us to the next level. He has been quoted as saying athletics is the front door of the University so hopefully he can take us somewhere.

We'll let you in if:
-You triple your athletic budget
-Get your men's basketball team off of double-secret probation (seriously, you won 8 f'ing games last year yet still got one of the stiffest penalties the NCAA has handed down in a while. This just shows that you can't even cheat the right way).
-Get a gym that seats more than 4,000 people
-Re-hire Paul Johnson
-Tar and feather Sam Baker
-Move your campus from Statesboro to Savannah.

(01-28-2010 09:50 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 05:37 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 01:37 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.
MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

We have a new President that began work on 1/1/10. Hopefully he will can our unpopular AD. Our previous President was from the anti-athletics UC Berkely crowd......we have hope that our new President has aspirations to take us to the next level. He has been quoted as saying athletics is the front door of the University so hopefully he can take us somewhere.

We'll let you in if:
-You triple your athletic budget
-Get your men's basketball team off of double-secret probation (seriously, you won 8 f'ing games last year yet still got one of the stiffest penalties the NCAA has handed down in a while. This just shows that you can't even cheat the right way).
-Get a gym that seats more than 4,000 people
-Re-hire Paul Johnson
-Tar and feather Sam Baker
-Move your campus from Statesboro to Savannah.

Well, if we moved up we could quickly get our athletic budget up to middle of the pack in the SB with no problem. Certainly the conference would be much better off to cull one of the Louisianna schools and add GSU. Now you of all people could vouch that GSU has the potential to help the SB in football. MTSU never excactly made it to the top of the IAA heap, but you did give us a couple of tough games during our 6 national title, 8 title appearances in 15 years dynasty run that has never been done by the 230 FCS and FBS schools. You guys did win a couple of playoff games so kudos on that!

I will agree on you on the tar and feather Sam Baker part, but hopefully his days are numbered.

Not trying to stir the pot or anything.....Im just sayin'......

(01-28-2010 10:09 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-28-2010 09:50 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 05:37 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 01:37 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.
MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

We have a new President that began work on 1/1/10. Hopefully he will can our unpopular AD. Our previous President was from the anti-athletics UC Berkely crowd......we have hope that our new President has aspirations to take us to the next level. He has been quoted as saying athletics is the front door of the University so hopefully he can take us somewhere.

We'll let you in if:
-You triple your athletic budget
-Get your men's basketball team off of double-secret probation (seriously, you won 8 f'ing games last year yet still got one of the stiffest penalties the NCAA has handed down in a while. This just shows that you can't even cheat the right way).
-Get a gym that seats more than 4,000 people
-Re-hire Paul Johnson
-Tar and feather Sam Baker
-Move your campus from Statesboro to Savannah.

Well, if we moved up we could quickly get our athletic budget up to middle of the pack in the SB with no problem. Certainly the conference would be much better off to cull one of the Louisianna schools and add GSU. Now you of all people could vouch that GSU has the potential to help the SB in football. MTSU never excactly made it to the top of the IAA heap, but you did give us a couple of tough games during our 6 national title, 8 title appearances in 15 years dynasty run that has never been done by the 230 FCS and FBS schools. You guys did win a couple of playoff games so kudos on that!

I will agree on you on the tar and feather Sam Baker part, but hopefully his days are numbered.

Not trying to stir the pot or anything.....Im just sayin'......

No one cares about what you did in I-AA 20 years ago.
FACT: FCS is infinitely inferior to what it was in the 80s.
FACT: GSU hasn't been relevent in the watered down FCS.
FACT: You bring absolutely nothing to the table. You won't earn us NCAA units in any sport except for maybe baseball. Your other sports wouldn't even be remotely close to competitive.

If you need to come in and be in the league in a couple of years to get your budget to middle of the pack, we don't want/need you. I'm already tired of some of these broke-ass schools that make absolutely nothing in ticket revenue and have to play four guarantee games a year to finance their athletic departments (cough, FAU, cough).

Those are the facts. If GSU was going to move up, you should have done it in the late 90s. You missed your train, your AD talked too much trash, and now there's not a place at the table for you. Sorry.

theboro has spoken. Best you thank your missah for his time and head back down towards the coast. I think "theboro" is afraid of a GSU fan coming along with the same board name. Can't have any confusion and its probably best the SBC not even consider GSU because of it.

theboro gets the final vote and it counts 5x more than any other. So, until you (personally) get the eagles into the final four, lure a coach away from his BCS AQ school, and take over SCAD you won't be sniffing his 5-votes.

(01-28-2010 11:19 PM)theboro Wrote:  No one cares about what you did in I-AA 20 years ago.
FACT: FCS is infinitely inferior to what it was in the 80s.
FACT: GSU hasn't been relevent in the watered down FCS.
FACT: You bring absolutely nothing to the table. You won't earn us NCAA units in any sport except for maybe baseball. Your other sports wouldn't even be remotely close to competitive.

If you need to come in and be in the league in a couple of years to get your budget to middle of the pack, we don't want/need you. I'm already tired of some of these broke-ass schools that make absolutely nothing in ticket revenue and have to play four guarantee games a year to finance their athletic departments (cough, FAU, cough).

Those are the facts. If GSU was going to move up, you should have done it in the late 90s. You missed your train, your AD talked too much trash, and now there's not a place at the table for you. Sorry.

Well last year we did play only 2 money games. (Nebraska-South Carolina) but I do agree with you on the attendance part. It should be better and I truly think it will be when we get out of Lockhart.

Perhaps you were thinking of FIU's schedule this year? I know thier OOC was particularly brutal.

(01-28-2010 11:19 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(01-28-2010 10:09 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-28-2010 09:50 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 05:37 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-27-2010 01:37 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What have you done lately? That's all that matters.

GSU AD talked a lot of smack about the SBC. What comes around, goes around.
MT men's hoops beat Kentucky in the NCAA Tourney, once upon a time.

We have a new President that began work on 1/1/10. Hopefully he will can our unpopular AD. Our previous President was from the anti-athletics UC Berkely crowd......we have hope that our new President has aspirations to take us to the next level. He has been quoted as saying athletics is the front door of the University so hopefully he can take us somewhere.

We'll let you in if:
-You triple your athletic budget
-Get your men's basketball team off of double-secret probation (seriously, you won 8 f'ing games last year yet still got one of the stiffest penalties the NCAA has handed down in a while. This just shows that you can't even cheat the right way).
-Get a gym that seats more than 4,000 people
-Re-hire Paul Johnson
-Tar and feather Sam Baker
-Move your campus from Statesboro to Savannah.

Well, if we moved up we could quickly get our athletic budget up to middle of the pack in the SB with no problem. Certainly the conference would be much better off to cull one of the Louisianna schools and add GSU. Now you of all people could vouch that GSU has the potential to help the SB in football. MTSU never excactly made it to the top of the IAA heap, but you did give us a couple of tough games during our 6 national title, 8 title appearances in 15 years dynasty run that has never been done by the 230 FCS and FBS schools. You guys did win a couple of playoff games so kudos on that!

I will agree on you on the tar and feather Sam Baker part, but hopefully his days are numbered.

Not trying to stir the pot or anything.....Im just sayin'......

No one cares about what you did in I-AA 20 years ago.
FACT: FCS is infinitely inferior to what it was in the 80s.
FACT: GSU hasn't been relevent in the watered down FCS.
FACT: You bring absolutely nothing to the table. You won't earn us NCAA units in any sport except for maybe baseball. Your other sports wouldn't even be remotely close to competitive.

If you need to come in and be in the league in a couple of years to get your budget to middle of the pack, we don't want/need you. I'm already tired of some of these broke-ass schools that make absolutely nothing in ticket revenue and have to play four guarantee games a year to finance their athletic departments (cough, FAU, cough).

Those are the facts. If GSU was going to move up, you should have done it in the late 90s. You missed your train, your AD talked too much trash, and now there's not a place at the table for you. Sorry.

FACT: If GSU has never been relevent then certainly no SB team has ever been. GSU's dynasty run that ended in the 00's has never been matched by any FCS or FBS team.

FACT: GSU's enrollment will pass half the SEC's including Bama and Auburn by the end of the decade

FACT: GSU would be a vast improvement and holds much more potential than the bottom tier SB schools

FACT: The SB having one of 3 FBS teams in GA, the 10th largest state, would help the conference vs adding more of the 15-20 FBS schools in Texas.

FACT: GSU averages 18k attendance during sub par years and would likely average at least 22k in the SB. This will continue to increase as the enrollment is averaging ~1,000 student increase per year.

FACT: GSU just hired former player Charlton Young as the HC in Basketball. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the business and has already assembled the top recruiting class in the SoCon which is currently rated higher than the SB in basketball. Check out ESPN below as the signees are rated higher than MTSU's as well. Things are definitely on the up with Young. I will admit it has been a long time since GSU could say that in Bball.

http://www.georgiasoutherneagles.com/Vie...=204839443

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruitin...son%3d2010