(01-11-2010 09:04 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(01-11-2010 06:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  SF hates on UC most of the time and spends the other portion of his time defending UCONN in the face of reason in most cases. I'm used to it and usually get a chuckle out of it anymore.

Hey I am pretty fair about things. Sorry I have a mind of my own and I don't follow public opinions much. I usually back up what I say. If you really want to know which program(s) I do have an issue with, it is usually that program in NJ and that school with the Orange color I don't have an issue with Cincy.

It's all good dude......

Cincy needs to build a wall a recruiting wall around the city. How did this guy end up at LSU?

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8...id=3321390

No kidding! We have to start keeping the Wares of the world at home. But, with that in mind, not everyone wants to stay home for school.

As far as Ware goes, those of us that have seen him play wonder what position he can play in college. Not big. Not as fast as the hype would lead you to believe. There were several high D-1 prospects at the Athlete Position in Cincinnati who were better prospects than Ware.

(01-12-2010 10:21 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  As far as Ware goes, those of us that have seen him play wonder what position he can play in college. Not big. Not as fast as the hype would lead you to believe. There were several high D-1 prospects at the Athlete Position in Cincinnati who were better prospects than Ware.

Well, all the top scouting services have him as a 4-star player, and Cincy currently has signed no 4-star players for next year, but what do they know?

UCONN signed a player from Cincy, OH. Angelo Pruitt who will probably end up being a DE. He is unrated. I just hope he turned out as good as last OH kid we signed in Lindsey Whitten. Is the kid any good?

UC should just give up on the stadium expansion and rent at Paul Brown. Pitt does it, USF does it, Miami does it and they all use it to their advantage. Use the money to build an indoor practice facility that can be shared with the Bengals.
UC needs to focus on getting home and homes with OSU and UK. Wins over UK should be easy and give them added credibility in the region and nationally. They have a good chance at beating OSU.

(01-11-2010 09:04 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(01-11-2010 06:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  SF hates on UC most of the time and spends the other portion of his time defending UCONN in the face of reason in most cases. I'm used to it and usually get a chuckle out of it anymore.

Hey I am pretty fair about things. Sorry I have a mind of my own and I don't follow public opinions much. I usually back up what I say. If you really want to know which program(s) I do have an issue with, it is usually that program in NJ and that school with the Orange

AAAwwww. It hurts me so much that Husky hates the Cuse. Whatever shall we Cuse fans do. If we send you a pacifier, will that help you to like us better?

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  UC should just give up on the stadium expansion and rent at Paul Brown. Pitt does it, USF does it, Miami does it and they all use it to their advantage. Use the money to build an indoor practice facility that can be shared with the Bengals.
UC needs to focus on getting home and homes with OSU and UK. Wins over UK should be easy and give them added credibility in the region and nationally. They have a good chance at beating OSU.

Wrong. Renting PBS for just 3 years will actually cost UC more in rental fees and lost concession profits (those would go to Mike Brown) than the renovation. Forget the fact that Nippert is an incredible place to watch a game and PBS is a concrete morgue that lacks any personality.

Wrong II: UK won't pick up the phone to schedule UC for any men's sport except baseball.

Wrong III: last year OSU bought its way out of the contract to play UC at PBS (paid UC a million bucks)....they want no part of playing UC anywhere except at home. Things have changed in the decade since that contract was signed.

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  UC should just give up on the stadium expansion

While I think UC should probably hold off on expanding Nippert for two-three years to get their finances in order, I think it is smart to go ahead and lay the groundwork for the project now (i.e. conduct feasibility study, get financial cost projections, get estimates on fundraising, etc). It is always better to go ahead and have your plans drawn up so that you don't have to spend a year or two in the planning stage when you finally decided to greenlight the project.

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  and rent at Paul Brown. Pitt does it, USF does it, Miami does it and they all use it to their advantage.

I think UC should explore using PBS to draw in one big name program a year or every couple of years to Cincinnati (e.g. Oklahoma next year). Financial benefits may not be there, but I do think it would help UC generate/maintain fan interest in the Cincinnati region and do much to raise the bearcats profile.

With that said, I don't think it would be a smart idea whatsoever to move every game (or even most of the games) to PBS. From everything I've read on the matter, it appears that games at PBS are going to be cost prohibitive for UC (rental rates, loss of parking/concession, etc would be too high to justify move).

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  Use the money to build an indoor practice facility that can be shared with the Bengals.

Isn't the Jefferson Ave Sports Complex project already underway?

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  focus on getting home and homes with OSU and UK.

Wouldn't it be nice if the world worked that way. UK has a very large contingent of supporters in the northern Kentucky region and OSU has a large contingent on the Ohio side of the Cincinnati metro. What I'm trying to say is that neither team has any incentive to schedule home and home (particularly an improved UC) because neither program wants to legitimize UC's program. Keep in mind that a developing UC program is a threat to both UK and OSU (recruiting, fan interest, etc).

Tbags, the Jefferson Sports Complex is underway and will be open for business this year.

(01-12-2010 03:46 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Wrong. Renting PBS for just 3 years will actually cost UC more in rental fees and lost concession profits (those would go to Mike Brown) than the renovation. Forget the fact that Nippert is an incredible place to watch a game and PBS is a concrete morgue that lacks any personality.

I sure wish USF had a 30,000 seat on-campus facility to upgrade. Playing in NFL stadiums is sterile stuff.

Upgrade the damn thing, Cincy.

(01-12-2010 11:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-12-2010 10:21 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  As far as Ware goes, those of us that have seen him play wonder what position he can play in college. Not big. Not as fast as the hype would lead you to believe. There were several high D-1 prospects at the Athlete Position in Cincinnati who were better prospects than Ware.

Well, all the top scouting services have him as a 4-star player, and Cincy currently has signed no 4-star players for next year, but what do they know?

Nobody else has either, considering signing day isn't until February

But, seriously, if you look at verbals:

http://cincinnati.scout.com/a.z?s=341&p=9&c=8&yr=2010

I'm sure you looked at Rivals, but, per scout Black and Lewis are ****. I especially like getting an athletic **** DL, considering our problems this season. And I'm just as glad that 11 of our 15 commits are defensive players.

(01-12-2010 01:59 PM)Tbags4Dbags Wrote:  UC should just give up on the stadium expansion and rent at Paul Brown.

NO!!!!

Having hard sellouts in their own campus stadium is much more profitable and provides a much better college atmosphere/environment vs having 20,000-30,000 empty seats in a "giant" NFL Stadium. (Ex: Look at USF...as for the past 2 years, USF's actual attendance average for the 65,857 seat Raymond James stadium noted by the St Pete Times was 37,598 fans per game in 2008 and 41,378 fans in 2009...which means there are on ave 24,500 - 28,000 empty seats per game at USF Home Games played in the "giant" NFL stadium).

Its much easier to raise booster $$$$ and raise tix prices when you have HARD SELLOUTS playing in smaller on-campus stadiums vs playing in LARGE NFL Stadiums like USF...as USF had to slash prices as low as $5.30...which, once you add the cost of RENTING of said stadium, hurts your overall cash flow.

Let Cinci keep all the concession/ad revenue in their stadium...vs RENTING the NFL Stadium...losing out on most of the concession/ad stadium revenue...and losing the college "atmosphere" of a soldout college stadium (i.e. seats are MUCH closer to the field/action vs most NFL stadiums).