Good news for Louisville fans must be looking forward to Dec 31.


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Kentucky freshman center Enes Kanter has been ruled ineligible for receiving illegal benefits while playing for a club basketball team in Turkey, the NCAA said in a statement on its website.

Kentucky will appeal the decision to the Division I Student-Athlete reinstatement committee at the end of the month.

Kanter played three seasons with the Turkish sport club Fenerbahce from 2006-07 to 2008-09. He competed primarily for the club's under-18 junior team, but did play on the club's senior team in 2008-09. According to facts agreed to by the university and the NCAA Eligibility Center, Kanter received $33,033 more than his expenses for the 2008-09 season.

Actual and necessary expenses are defined by NCAA rules and relate to a player's expenses directly necessary for practice and competition. Examples include meals and lodging directly tied to practice or competition, coaching, medical insurance and transportation tied to practice or competition.

The NCAA actually ruled against Kentucky?

(11-11-2010 07:51 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The NCAA actually ruled against Kentucky?

That in itself is news!!!

No sh!t...

I sense a misplaced fax is about to be discovered...

Has Sandy Bell died/fled the country or has ever fax machine at UK stopped working? If the answer to either of the above is "no", then don't hold your breath on the UKKK ruling.

Then why is Calipari still practicing him with the team?

(11-12-2010 06:34 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  Then why is Calipari still practicing him with the team?

because Calipari is going to appeal the NCAA decision.

(11-12-2010 08:06 PM)frogman Wrote:  

(11-12-2010 06:34 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  Then why is Calipari still practicing him with the team?

because Calipari is going to appeal the NCAA decision.

And why is this allowed if he is currently not eligible? UK is benefiting from this because Kanter's presence on the practice floor obviously helps the other frontcourt players improve their game having to go up against a guy of Kanter's abilities. Calipari is being defiant plain and simple. Pitino wouldn't let Dieng practice until he was cleared. He wouldn't even let him shoot around with the team during formal practices.

(11-12-2010 08:34 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  

(11-12-2010 08:06 PM)frogman Wrote:  

(11-12-2010 06:34 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  Then why is Calipari still practicing him with the team?

because Calipari is going to appeal the NCAA decision.

And why is this allowed if he is currently not eligible? UK is benefiting from this because Kanter's presence on the practice floor obviously helps the other frontcourt players improve their game having to go up against a guy of Kanter's abilities. Calipari is being defiant plain and simple. Pitino wouldn't let Dieng practice until he was cleared. He wouldn't even let him shoot around with the team during formal practices.

At this point he's no different than a walk-on that the bring in as a scout team guy. He's an enrolled student.

I realize this is a contrarian point of view because most of the folks in this thread are UofL fans, but apparently the NCAA said that if the Turkish team had paid the tutors that Kanter had, instead of paying Kanter who in turn then paid his tutor, there would not have been a problem. Kanter's family offered to repay the Turkish club for the academic expense, and the NCAA told them it didn't matter at this point. Frankly, the kid gave up chances to play for the national team and passed up full professional contracts because he wanted to play college basketball. From a few accounts, the kid didn't have handlers who were demanding payout or giving him extra benefits like cars or other crap.

Piss on UK all you want though.

$33,000 worth over and beyond his expenses? It doesn't matter if they can pay it back, he took it as compensation which means he got paid for his time, which means he is already a professional athlete. The NCAA can't let Kanter play because it would open up a huge can of worms. If Kanter wins this appeal, then they might as well let universities pay their players and be done with it.

(11-12-2010 08:53 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  $33,000 worth over and beyond his expenses? It doesn't matter if they can pay it back, he took it as compensation which means he got paid for his time, which means he is already a professional athlete. The NCAA can't let Kanter play because it would open up a huge can of worms. If Kanter wins this appeal, then they might as well let universities pay their players and be done with it.

As it has been described, $20K of the $33K was used on education. But because the team paid the expenses directly to Kanter and not to the tutor/educator/etc., that's where it is considered "above and beyond".

There's also some reports that the remaining cash is in an escrow account and has not been used by Kanter or his family.

(11-13-2010 02:00 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  

(11-12-2010 08:53 PM)LaBradfordsTWill Wrote:  $33,000 worth over and beyond his expenses? It doesn't matter if they can pay it back, he took it as compensation which means he got paid for his time, which means he is already a professional athlete. The NCAA can't let Kanter play because it would open up a huge can of worms. If Kanter wins this appeal, then they might as well let universities pay their players and be done with it.

As it has been described, $20K of the $33K was used on education. But because the team paid the expenses directly to Kanter and not to the tutor/educator/etc., that's where it is considered "above and beyond".

There's also some reports that the remaining cash is in an escrow account and has not been used by Kanter or his family.

Kanter is projected as a lottery pick in the NBA. So I'm sure someone can make an "investment" and put money in an escrow account and say it is the money from the team. The deal was not to accept the money at all but the truth is he probably didn't know how good he was or that the U.S. colleges would place so much stock in him. He needs to play another year in Turkey and see where he falls in the NBA draft. He was only going to spend one year in college anyway and major in "slaying he babes."

He'll get the opportunity to swat at Allen Iverson's shots. He signed a contract with a Turkish club...

(11-13-2010 02:15 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  He'll get the opportunity to swat at Allen Iverson's shots. He signed a contract with a Turkish club...

You sure he signed a contract? Apparently that is not the case or he'd be getting paid larger sums of money. He was offered multi-million dollar contracts, but declined those offers with the intention of playing NCAA basketball.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketb...of-his-son

Listen, I'm not trying to take UK's side in this matter. Frankly, this is a rare case where a kid who likely has NBA talent decided he wanted to play NCAA basketball before going pro. I'm not opposed to it, though I'm not naive to think he'd stay four years either.

Iverson was the one who signed with a Turkish club, matt...

(11-12-2010 07:54 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I sense a misplaced fax is about to be discovered...

(11-13-2010 03:14 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Iverson was the one who signed with a Turkish club, matt...

Sorry, I took the "he" in your prior post to mean Kanter, since it followed a "he'll"

Quote:He'll get the opportunity to swat at Allen Iverson's shots. He signed a contract with a Turkish club...

I should have made that more clear. But I figured people would remember Iverson's signing, and the He in reference did follow Iverson's name. I guess he's officially irrelevant in the nation's consciousness now...

He will never play at UK because of video evidence.