Losing to D1 newcomer Florida Gulf Coast?

A team that was beaten by both 1-5 Prairie View and 1-9 Longwood?

Great RPI killer

De what?

DePaul is fast becoming to BE bball what Temple used to be for BE football....Not only a school that is historically bad but makes no effort to improve and is basically just collecting a check from the the BEs TV deal/NCAA units

Jackson

(12-22-2009 10:13 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  DePaul is fast becoming to BE bball what Temple used to be for BE football....Not only a school that is historically bad but makes no effort to improve and is basically just collecting a check from the the BEs TV deal/NCAA units

Jackson

Well ya'll didn't have to take DePaul in 2005.

(12-22-2009 10:13 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  DePaul is fast becoming to BE bball what Temple used to be for BE football....Not only a school that is historically bad but makes no effort to improve and is basically just collecting a check from the the BEs TV deal/NCAA units

Jackson

Key word is 'used' to be

Not having football, DePaul MUST contribute to basketball and they just seem to be getting worse.

(12-22-2009 10:15 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 10:13 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  DePaul is fast becoming to BE bball what Temple used to be for BE football....Not only a school that is historically bad but makes no effort to improve and is basically just collecting a check from the the BEs TV deal/NCAA units

Jackson

Well ya'll didn't have to take DePaul in 2005.

"but we needed a presence in the Chicago market.......".....hehe.

It's nice to see DePaul can still set a precident. Are they still conference members?

Depaul is THE symbol of what's wrong with the Big East. Period.

(12-22-2009 11:15 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Depaul is THE symbol of what's wrong with the Big East. Period.

^^ Not sure I agree with that, but from where I'm sitting its sad to see a program with that kind of tradition not take advantage of the BE opportunity

If Seton Hall could put a team together a few years, DePaul SHOULD be able too as well...there just seems to be a lack of commitment or desire to do so from there administration

Jackson

(12-22-2009 10:59 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 10:15 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 10:13 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  DePaul is fast becoming to BE bball what Temple used to be for BE football....Not only a school that is historically bad but makes no effort to improve and is basically just collecting a check from the the BEs TV deal/NCAA units

Jackson

Well ya'll didn't have to take DePaul in 2005.

"but we needed a presence in the Chicago market.......".....hehe.

Just saying, there was a pretty good basketball team that got overlooked because they were a large public school and not a private catholic school. Had pretty good records and rivalries with the former CUSA members in the Big East now. This school also was the most likely basketball only to start a football program.

Just saying

(12-22-2009 11:44 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 11:15 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Depaul is THE symbol of what's wrong with the Big East. Period.

^^ Not sure I agree with that, but from where I'm sitting its sad to see a program with that kind of tradition not take advantage of the BE opportunity

If Seton Hall could put a team together a few years, DePaul SHOULD be able too as well...there just seems to be a lack of commitment or desire to do so from there administration

Jackson

Temple was booted out of the Big East because it all it did not invest in its football program. Well, has Depaul, Seton Hall, Providence, St. John's invested in their basketball programs. NO. It time to give them the boot. All they are doing is cashing Big East checks. At least Marquette built a new basketball arena. It has earned its keep. Boot the rest of these schools out of the conference and admit some folks who take their Big East membership seriously by investing in facilities and making a commitment to winning.

Split now and get rid of all those catholic deadbeats. While we are at it, drop ND too.

DePaul is traditionally and currently has the second best basketball program among Division 1 Chicago Catholic schools.

The only thing DePaul has up on Loyola were a few seasons in the late 80s that have since been vacated by DePaul. Without those seasons, they never would have been invited into the conferences that eventually became the CUSA and would have not have become the heir to the Chicago market that attracted the Big East's attention.

(12-23-2009 02:14 AM)rferry Wrote:  DePaul is traditionally and currently has the second best basketball program among Division 1 Chicago Catholic schools.

The only thing DePaul has up on Loyola were a few seasons in the late 80s that have since been vacated by DePaul. Without those seasons, they never would have been invited into the conferences that eventually became the CUSA and would have not have become the heir to the Chicago market that attracted the Big East's attention.

What on earth are you talking about, rferry? I'm unfamiliar w/ this history of Chicago bball, could you or someone else elaborate?

(12-23-2009 05:36 AM)Crimsonelf Wrote:  

(12-23-2009 02:14 AM)rferry Wrote:  DePaul is traditionally and currently has the second best basketball program among Division 1 Chicago Catholic schools.

The only thing DePaul has up on Loyola were a few seasons in the late 80s that have since been vacated by DePaul. Without those seasons, they never would have been invited into the conferences that eventually became the CUSA and would have not have become the heir to the Chicago market that attracted the Big East's attention.

What on earth are you talking about, rferry? I'm unfamiliar w/ this history of Chicago bball, could you or someone else elaborate?

Loyola-Chicago actually has an NCAA title (1963). DePaul, for all the highly ranked teams in the early 80s, was known for getting upset in the NCAA 1st round. Loyola started four black players in the NCAA title game and often started five during the regular season for several years. That's since been overshadowed by UTEP/Texas Western's starting five in the title game in 1966.

Ray Meyer had two Final Fours (1942, 1979). He did get DePaul an NIT Championship in 1945 when it was the main championship tournament.

For a fair portion of their history, DePaul wasn't exactly setting the world on fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Meyer

(12-22-2009 11:54 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 11:44 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 11:15 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Depaul is THE symbol of what's wrong with the Big East. Period.

^^ Not sure I agree with that, but from where I'm sitting its sad to see a program with that kind of tradition not take advantage of the BE opportunity

If Seton Hall could put a team together a few years, DePaul SHOULD be able too as well...there just seems to be a lack of commitment or desire to do so from there administration

Jackson

Temple was booted out of the Big East because it all it did not invest in its football program. Well, has Depaul, Seton Hall, Providence, St. John's invested in their basketball programs. NO. It time to give them the boot. All they are doing is cashing Big East checks. At least Marquette built a new basketball arena. It has earned its keep. Boot the rest of these schools out of the conference and admit some folks who take their Big East membership seriously by investing in facilities and making a commitment to winning.

A) Its going to be hard to boot three schools that pretty much founded the league

B) I think the one school you mentioned that has tried has been Providence College. The Dunkin Donuts center or whatever its called has certainly been improved. I think its hosting NCAA games in the near future

Plus I do think there paying there coach a million per season. Unlike St Johns and DePaul, they were aggressive in there coaching hire and got the best young coach they could

Take a look for yourself...I'm sure its not what Syracuse has..but I'm sure its better then some in the league

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/sp...-tour.html

Jackson

The Dunk, as shown by the ad boards, also doubles as the AHL's Providence Bruins home arena.

...mmmmmmm... ...donuts... :homer:

After that turd we turned in against DePaul at the end of last year, I'm a bit hesitant to criticize them. Plus, we're drawing about 6 or 7K for an 8-3 basketball team, and we still have a pretty crappy basketball "arena", with no affordability to build a new one. I hardly see UC basketball as being in a position to throw stones.

(12-22-2009 11:44 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(12-22-2009 11:15 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  Depaul is THE symbol of what's wrong with the Big East. Period.

^^ Not sure I agree with that, but from where I'm sitting its sad to see a program with that kind of tradition not take advantage of the BE opportunity

If Seton Hall could put a team together a few years, DePaul SHOULD be able too as well...there just seems to be a lack of commitment or desire to do so from there administration

Jackson

If memory serves me correctly, we booted Temple for basically the same thing...