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RE: Where is our program now?
(12-24-2009 10:22 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:19 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(12-23-2009 09:42 PM)mjs Wrote:  Maybe you're right that a young dynamic coach might make the difference for us. Of course, that young dynamic coach would probably go to WKU, MTSU, etc. before he came here, if he had the choice.


Sure he'd go to WKU or MTSU if they were open, and he good sense. But, there are more good young assistants floating around every year than there are mid-major jobs. There is another Mike Newell out there somewhere. I'm sure Mike Newell would have taken the WKU or MT job over ours if he'd had the choice, but he came here. The rest is history.

There is also some d2 coaches that would love to make the jump. There have been d2 coaches that have been successful when they moved up.


Absolutely. In fact Joe Foley hasn't done a bad job here, and while he hasn't yet quite taken us from the outhouse all the way to the penthouse, he does have us "moving on up to the west side, to a deluxe arena in the sky."
12-24-2009 10:30 AM
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RE: Where is our program now?
(12-24-2009 10:30 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:22 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:19 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(12-23-2009 09:42 PM)mjs Wrote:  Maybe you're right that a young dynamic coach might make the difference for us. Of course, that young dynamic coach would probably go to WKU, MTSU, etc. before he came here, if he had the choice.


Sure he'd go to WKU or MTSU if they were open, and he good sense. But, there are more good young assistants floating around every year than there are mid-major jobs. There is another Mike Newell out there somewhere. I'm sure Mike Newell would have taken the WKU or MT job over ours if he'd had the choice, but he came here. The rest is history.

There is also some d2 coaches that would love to make the jump. There have been d2 coaches that have been successful when they moved up.


Absolutely. In fact Joe Foley hasn't done a bad job here, and while he hasn't yet quite taken us from the outhouse all the way to the penthouse, he does have us "moving on up to the west side, to a deluxe arena in the sky."

Joe has done great with where he started here. But I think recruiting is totally different in women's basketball than in men's.
I would think the advantage in having a men's coach who was an assistant at a major university would be that he's already recruiting a higher caliber athlete, and has contacts to those kids.
Newell was the top assistant at Oklahoma under Billy Tubbs, and was their interim head coach when Tubbs had that serious bicycle injury. Plus I think the guys that get the top assistant jobs at those major universities are probably a little smoother and maybe better at public relations that coaches who end up at small schools. Obviously not in every case, but I would think it would hold true in a lot of cases.04-cheers
12-24-2009 10:39 AM
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RE: Where is our program now?
(12-24-2009 10:39 AM)outsideualr Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:30 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:22 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  
(12-24-2009 10:19 AM)LRTrojan Wrote:  
(12-23-2009 09:42 PM)mjs Wrote:  Maybe you're right that a young dynamic coach might make the difference for us. Of course, that young dynamic coach would probably go to WKU, MTSU, etc. before he came here, if he had the choice.


Sure he'd go to WKU or MTSU if they were open, and he good sense. But, there are more good young assistants floating around every year than there are mid-major jobs. There is another Mike Newell out there somewhere. I'm sure Mike Newell would have taken the WKU or MT job over ours if he'd had the choice, but he came here. The rest is history.

There is also some d2 coaches that would love to make the jump. There have been d2 coaches that have been successful when they moved up.


Absolutely. In fact Joe Foley hasn't done a bad job here, and while he hasn't yet quite taken us from the outhouse all the way to the penthouse, he does have us "moving on up to the west side, to a deluxe arena in the sky."

Joe has done great with where he started here. But I think recruiting is totally different in women's basketball than in men's.
I would think the advantage in having a men's coach who was an assistant at a major university would be that he's already recruiting a higher caliber athlete, and has contacts to those kids.
Newell was the top assistant at Oklahoma under Billy Tubbs, and was their interim head coach when Tubbs had that serious bicycle injury. Plus I think the guys that get the top assistant jobs at those major universities are probably a little smoother and maybe better at public relations that coaches who end up at small schools. Obviously not in every case, but I would think it would hold true in a lot of cases.04-cheers

That is the drawback. You just don't know if they can recruit on the d1 level. But that's where interviewing the coach and contacting ADs and coaches come in to play. The thing you get with a d2 coach is that you can see how they run a program on their own. An assistant coach you are taking a gamble and hoping they learned how to run a program under the tutelage of a good head coach.
12-24-2009 10:44 AM
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