Having grown up in Broward County as a fan of Miami before they became a player on the national scene and then watched from afar (Tampa) as they became "The U," that 30 for 30 episode was a fun trip down memory lane. I remember those first race riots in 1980 (my senior year in high school that forced us to move our prom) being the final straw that helped me pick USF over UM.

USFFan

I forgot just how dominant Miami used to be. They were to the 80s and early 90s what USC has been to this decade.

It was well done. Interesting how Ericson was portrayed as more of a caretaker, meek personality when compared to Johnson and Schnellenberger. Seems that Johnson was also the coach that allowed more of the personalities of the players to come out.

Louisville should be thankful for the issues that caused Schnellenberger to never get his USFL opportunity. The Cardinals hired Howard after the one season in limbo.

For me, it was interesting to see who picked up many of those Miami games. I knew that they made deals with CBS for some games and TBS had deals to pick up other home games.

That was such a great show last night.

The Hurricanes truly did change college football. And now they seem far more like the establishment than their rebel selves that made "The U" a brand name in the sport.

I wished they had done another 30 minutes about how these former players from that time period feel about the university, the state of the program, and playing in Landshark Stadium now.

Cheers,
Neil

Those 30 on 30 shows are great. I agree they missed an opportunity to discuss the closing of the Orange Bowl, that seemed to be a huge part of the U identity.

They showed the beating that they laid on Notre Dame in Faust's last game and the thing I found interesting was the plea by the color analyst for Miami to call off the dogs.

Working that game alongside Brent Musberger was....Ara Parsegian. Apparently Ara had an even worse meltdown that wasn't part of any of the clips shown.

(12-13-2009 06:41 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  They showed the beating that they laid on Notre Dame in Faust's last game and the thing I found interesting was the plea by the color analyst for Miami to call off the dogs.

Working that game alongside Brent Musberger was....Ara Parsegian. Apparently Ara had an even worse meltdown that wasn't part of any of the clips shown.

I was at that game and remember afterwards hearing about that and just laughing. Where were all those sportcasters when ND was running the score on teams like Miami. That day was for all Miami fans and ND haters, the most enjoyable game in a long time. Miami had been waiting a LONG time for that day. Paybcak is a B***H

(12-13-2009 06:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 06:41 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  They showed the beating that they laid on Notre Dame in Faust's last game and the thing I found interesting was the plea by the color analyst for Miami to call off the dogs.

Working that game alongside Brent Musberger was....Ara Parsegian. Apparently Ara had an even worse meltdown that wasn't part of any of the clips shown.

I was at that game and remember afterwards hearing about that and just laughing. Where were all those sportcasters when ND was running the score on teams like Miami. That day was for all Miami fans and ND haters, the most enjoyable game in a long time. Miami had been waiting a LONG time for that day. Paybcak is a B***H

I was sitting in the stands at the Orange Bowl when I was 11 years old with my dad and watched Notre Dame beat the crap out of Miami 44-0. I have very vivid memories in part because it was the first time I'd ever heard an F-bomb from some drunk Irish fans. I remember asking my dad what it meant, and his reply was "it means if I ever hear you say it, you won't be able to sit down for a week." I also remember those same ND fans chanting "run it up, Ara, run it up." So I was laughing out loud at the TV that day when I heard Ara whining about it to Brent.

Little known fact - there were only 10 guys on the field on that play when Miami blocked that punt for the final score. The Irish players had quit on Faust.

Matt, I would LOVE to hear about any Ara meltdown if you have details...

USFFan

(12-13-2009 07:07 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 06:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 06:41 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  They showed the beating that they laid on Notre Dame in Faust's last game and the thing I found interesting was the plea by the color analyst for Miami to call off the dogs.

Working that game alongside Brent Musberger was....Ara Parsegian. Apparently Ara had an even worse meltdown that wasn't part of any of the clips shown.

I was at that game and remember afterwards hearing about that and just laughing. Where were all those sportcasters when ND was running the score on teams like Miami. That day was for all Miami fans and ND haters, the most enjoyable game in a long time. Miami had been waiting a LONG time for that day. Paybcak is a B***H

I was sitting in the stands at the Orange Bowl when I was 11 years old with my dad and watched Notre Dame beat the crap out of Miami 44-0. I have very vivid memories in part because it was the first time I'd ever heard an F-bomb from some drunk Irish fans. I remember asking my dad what it meant, and his reply was "it means if I ever hear you say it, you won't be able to sit down for a week." I also remember those same ND fans chanting "run it up, Ara, run it up." So I was laughing out loud at the TV that day when I heard Ara whining about it to Brent.

Little known fact - there were only 10 guys on the field on that play when Miami blocked that punt for the final score. The Irish players had quit on Faust.

Matt, I would LOVE to hear about any Ara meltdown if you have details...

USFFan

So what brought you to the light side, why the switch from the Canes to the Bulls?

USF started football did it for me.

I believe the meltdown went something like "Notre Dame will rise from the ashes..." with some rambling. Followed by some lengthy silence by Parseghian.

Very Holtz-like with the ND worship on TV.

College football was so much cooler and better in the 80s and early 90s. There were so many characters on each team and you could have a #2 vs a #5 and the winner, based on the other bowl games during the day could end up as #1. I personally enjoyed watching Miami of the 80s and early 90s. Butch Davis really killed the momentum of that program and many ex Miami players continue to hold a grudge on him till this day.

Miami makes my high school team look like choir boys and they have a rediculous reputation for unsportsmanship.

The thing that I remember about those Miami teams in the 80s was how the established powers would look down their noses at them and put them down, which made the players be even more of its us against the world and how they enjoyed pounding some of those established teams like texas in the cotton bowl.
We syill have some of those same snobbish posters around here that try to put down the Big East and specially USF,UC and UL just because they werent lucky enough to be part of those established leagues.
So it is specially enjoyable when those teams pound schools from the SEC,ACC, BigTen, Big12 and PacTen.

(12-13-2009 08:12 PM)DIP WV Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 07:07 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 06:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-13-2009 06:41 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  They showed the beating that they laid on Notre Dame in Faust's last game and the thing I found interesting was the plea by the color analyst for Miami to call off the dogs.

Working that game alongside Brent Musberger was....Ara Parsegian. Apparently Ara had an even worse meltdown that wasn't part of any of the clips shown.

I was at that game and remember afterwards hearing about that and just laughing. Where were all those sportcasters when ND was running the score on teams like Miami. That day was for all Miami fans and ND haters, the most enjoyable game in a long time. Miami had been waiting a LONG time for that day. Paybcak is a B***H

I was sitting in the stands at the Orange Bowl when I was 11 years old with my dad and watched Notre Dame beat the crap out of Miami 44-0. I have very vivid memories in part because it was the first time I'd ever heard an F-bomb from some drunk Irish fans. I remember asking my dad what it meant, and his reply was "it means if I ever hear you say it, you won't be able to sit down for a week." I also remember those same ND fans chanting "run it up, Ara, run it up." So I was laughing out loud at the TV that day when I heard Ara whining about it to Brent.

Little known fact - there were only 10 guys on the field on that play when Miami blocked that punt for the final score. The Irish players had quit on Faust.

Matt, I would LOVE to hear about any Ara meltdown if you have details...

USFFan

So what brought you to the light side, why the switch from the Canes to the Bulls?

Truth be told, I still root for Miami when they don't play USF. When I applied to colleges, I applied to and was accepted by Miami, Fl*rida, FSU and USF. I was even offered a partial scholarship to Miami, but even if I'd lived at home and had half of my tuition paid for, it was still too expensive. The day I visited Tallahassee, it was 19 degrees - the first time I'd ever experienced freezing temperatures since before I could remember. And when I visited Gainesville, nobody asked my name, just my SS#. I was treated best at USF, which was why I went there. During my time as a student, we never had football, so there was no conflict. Once we started football, USF moved to #1 for me.

It's funny, my stepbrother also grew up a UM fan, graduated from USF, has a "U" tattoo on his leg and sports a Miami vanity license plate. I pointed out it cheapens his own degree by sending money to a competitor - doesn't faze him a bit.

USFFan

"Even your white guys are tough!"

Even though I'm not a Hurricanes fan (Go Seminoles!!) I admit, that was a great documentary film...The "30 On 30" Series has been fabulous, the only one I've not seen (on purpose) is the one about the Ali-Holmes fight...I saw that fight live on TV, couldn't bear to watch what was happening in that ring that evening, nothing against Larry Holmes, he did what he had to do, and even still, you could tell that he didn't want to be "that guy", the "legend killer"...Haven't seen that fight since, and never want to see it again...Otherwise, I would love to have all of these wonderfully done films in my home library...Every bit as good, if not better, than the very entertaining and enlightening "Sports Century" series...Who's next on "30 On 30?"...My favorite one so far has been the one they did on the USFL, and the one about Len Bias was just heartbreaking and powerful...

They threw Butch Davis under the bus in that doc, which makes no sense...he's the one that made Miami a power again.

(12-14-2009 03:06 PM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  They threw Butch Davis under the bus in that doc, which makes no sense...he's the one that made Miami a power again.

Don't necessarily agree with that. Yes, they seemed to correlate the demolition of the Orange Bowl with Butch taking over, but we know that isn't the case.

I thought they made Erickson look like a meek caretaker though who let the inmates overrun the asylum.

Also, thought they missed the boat on not discussing Sam Jankovich's move from the U to the New England Patriots.

Butch Davis is why we still have guys running around the NFL talking about being from the U. But the parity is too great for a team to have a run like that again, IMO. USC has had a great run in big games but only has two titles, counting the AP title, with Carroll because they can't win all of their PAC 10 games.

Certainly the documentary was made to highlight the characters and the take no prisoners attitude around the program. I wonder how many guys who played there now are embarrassed with what took place.