YEP, we just went UNDEFEATED in the SUN BELT. Be jealous.

GO TROJANS!!!!

(11-28-2009 10:49 PM)THE TROY TROJAN Wrote:  YEP, we just went UNDEFEATED in the SUN BELT. Be jealous.

and still nobody comes to your games. Third in attendance in the belt with only five home games. Definitely not jealous about that.

Ugh....

tbh, the entire Sun Belt has sucked this year with attendance...

(11-29-2009 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  tbh, the entire Sun Belt has sucked this year with attendance...

We really have. Let's hope next season get's better.

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(11-28-2009 10:49 PM)THE TROY TROJAN Wrote:  YEP, we just went UNDEFEATED in the SUN BELT. Be jealous.

and still nobody comes to your games. Third in attendance in the belt with only five home games. Definitely not jealous about that.
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And Troy has about 30,000 less people than Murfreesboro, and a whole hell of a lot more than that if you count the surrounding area. Sounds like you are underachieving, not us. Go Trojans!

(12-01-2009 12:38 PM)Buzzkill Wrote:  And Troy has about 30,000 less people than Murfreesboro, and a whole hell of a lot more than that if you count the surrounding area. Sounds like you are underachieving, not us. Go Trojans!

I'm glad you're happy enough with your loss in attendance from last season to throw stones at the school who drew the most in the SBC this season.

MT did get Miss State and Memphis at home... there is no doubt those teams brought in more fans than normal.

Troy only got UAB. and UAB is hardly a draw... they have one of the worst fan followings in CUSA plus they haven't had a winning season in a few years. so that isn't a must see game around here nowadays.

(12-01-2009 02:29 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  MT did get Miss State and Memphis at home... there is no doubt those teams brought in more fans than normal.

Troy only got UAB. and UAB is hardly a draw... they have one of the worst fan followings in CUSA plus they haven't had a winning season in a few years. so that isn't a must see game around here nowadays.

...not to mention the sheer lack of competition the Belt brought to the Gallery this year. People get tired of watching blow outs every weekend.

Miss. St. crowd was disappointing, but the MSU folks showed up. Memphis was packed.

Either way, Troy had fewer people attend games this season than last. And its not like you were at capacity last season. I'm glad that you're cool that your best record since FBS drew fewer fans than the previous season. You'd think you'd be saying "Yeah, we didn't get as many as we should have. We should work on that." I know I feel that way about MT, even with the highest SBC attendance.

I would like to point out that Troy has fewer than 10,000 students on campus. that makes a difference.

(12-01-2009 04:01 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Miss. St. crowd was disappointing, but the MSU folks showed up. Memphis was packed.

Either way, Troy had fewer people attend games this season than last. And its not like you were at capacity last season. I'm glad that you're cool that your best record since FBS drew fewer fans than the previous season. You'd think you'd be saying "Yeah, we didn't get as many as we should have. We should work on that." I know I feel that way about MT, even with the highest SBC attendance.

It make sense that after losing the Sunbelt to Troy for the 4th season in a row, you would point to something that you actually did do better than us. But I would rather win championships than brag about having a few more butts in the seats.

Excuses Excuses. Sure Murfreesboro and the surrounding area have way more people, but we also have way more entertainment options. Troy has no competition for entertainment options. There is literally nothing to do for miles around Troy. So there is no excuse for not having fans in your stadium on a Saturday afternoon. What else is there to do?

(11-29-2009 08:41 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  and still nobody comes to your games. Third in attendance in the belt with only five home games. Definitely not jealous about that.

LSU Tigers* - 92,619
MTSU - 20,517
Troy - 18,413

Still think there's a big difference in our attendance? If nobody comes to our games, then certainly no one comes to yours. And if you think for one minute that those figures aren't inflated or otherwise mettled with, then you're just fooling yourself...

Even if you try to argue that its "all about how full the stadium looks and sounds, and 2,000 makes a big difference in smaller venues like ours," inflation makes the difference in our numbers mean absolutely nothing, so I don't know why these threads even exist.

The "official" attendance count for FIU vs Troy was 10,142. Did you know there were less than 250 people in the stands with 20:00 before kickoff on the pregame clock? The number of fans did grow quite a bit after kick off, but there were no more than 3 or 4,000 fans, max.

So please, lets rid ourselves of the notion that these counts actually mean anything, at all...

* Taken from the 2007 season as data from 2009 could not be found.

(12-01-2009 07:22 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Excuses Excuses. Sure Murfreesboro and the surrounding area have way more people, but we also have way more entertainment options. Troy has no competition for entertainment options. There is literally nothing to do for miles around Troy. So there is no excuse for not having fans in your stadium on a Saturday afternoon. What else is there to do?

You don't get it. There's only 14,000 people in Troy. Try filling a stadium with people you don't have. Our main campus has 7,000 people. Do you really think because all thats in Troy are cows and tractors people are gonna come to the stadium in droves as if Chancellor Jack Hawkins painted hypnotic swirls on the water tower?

The argument that there's more entertainment in Mboro doesn't hold any weight. You're saying because there's nothing to do in Troy people should just automatically show up to games. Last I checked a large number of people don't like football, much less be dragged to a sporting event. I suspect most people who live in small towns are doing what they'd rather do than watch football: playing with videos games and themselves.

(12-01-2009 07:26 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-29-2009 08:41 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  and still nobody comes to your games. Third in attendance in the belt with only five home games. Definitely not jealous about that.

LSU Tigers* - 92,619
MTSU - 20,517
Troy - 18,413

Still think there's a big difference in our attendance? If nobody comes to our games, then certainly no one comes to yours. And if you think for one minute that those figures aren't inflated or otherwise mettled with, then you're just fooling yourself...

Even if you try to argue that its "all about how full the stadium looks and sounds, and 2,000 makes a big difference in smaller venues like ours," inflation makes the difference in our numbers mean absolutely nothing, so I don't know why these threads even exist.

The "official" attendance count for FIU vs Troy was 10,142. Did you know there were less than 250 people in the stands with 20:00 before kickoff on the pregame clock? The number of fans did grow quite a bit after kick off, but there were no more than 3 or 4,000 fans, max.

So please, lets rid ourselves of the notion that these counts actually mean anything, at all...

* Taken from the 2007 season as data from 2009 could not be found.

(12-01-2009 07:22 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Excuses Excuses. Sure Murfreesboro and the surrounding area have way more people, but we also have way more entertainment options. Troy has no competition for entertainment options. There is literally nothing to do for miles around Troy. So there is no excuse for not having fans in your stadium on a Saturday afternoon. What else is there to do?

You don't get it. There's only 14,000 people in Troy. Try filling a stadium with people you don't have. Our main campus has 7,000 people. Do you really think because all thats in Troy are cows and tractors people are gonna come to the stadium in droves as if Chancellor Jack Hawkins painted hypnotic swirls on the water tower?

The argument that there's more entertainment in Mboro doesn't hold any weight. You're saying because there's nothing to do in Troy people should just automatically show up to games. Last I checked a large number of people don't like football, much less be dragged to a sporting event. I suspect most people who live in small towns are doing what they'd rather do than watch football: playing with videos games and themselves.

Given Troy's success the last few seasons and conference championships and the fact that you "own the belt" you would think that your attendance would be better. Instead its third in the belt and actually down from last year that is sad. Why are you comparing LSU attendance figures with Sun Belt figures anyway? 2000 a game is a big difference when you multiply it by the six home games we had. That is 12,000 more people at MT's games. That nearly equals one home game for Troy.

(12-01-2009 09:26 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(12-01-2009 07:26 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-29-2009 08:41 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  and still nobody comes to your games. Third in attendance in the belt with only five home games. Definitely not jealous about that.

LSU Tigers* - 92,619
MTSU - 20,517
Troy - 18,413

Still think there's a big difference in our attendance? If nobody comes to our games, then certainly no one comes to yours. And if you think for one minute that those figures aren't inflated or otherwise mettled with, then you're just fooling yourself...

Even if you try to argue that its "all about how full the stadium looks and sounds, and 2,000 makes a big difference in smaller venues like ours," inflation makes the difference in our numbers mean absolutely nothing, so I don't know why these threads even exist.

The "official" attendance count for FIU vs Troy was 10,142. Did you know there were less than 250 people in the stands with 20:00 before kickoff on the pregame clock? The number of fans did grow quite a bit after kick off, but there were no more than 3 or 4,000 fans, max.

So please, lets rid ourselves of the notion that these counts actually mean anything, at all...

* Taken from the 2007 season as data from 2009 could not be found.

(12-01-2009 07:22 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Excuses Excuses. Sure Murfreesboro and the surrounding area have way more people, but we also have way more entertainment options. Troy has no competition for entertainment options. There is literally nothing to do for miles around Troy. So there is no excuse for not having fans in your stadium on a Saturday afternoon. What else is there to do?

You don't get it. There's only 14,000 people in Troy. Try filling a stadium with people you don't have. Our main campus has 7,000 people. Do you really think because all thats in Troy are cows and tractors people are gonna come to the stadium in droves as if Chancellor Jack Hawkins painted hypnotic swirls on the water tower?

The argument that there's more entertainment in Mboro doesn't hold any weight. You're saying because there's nothing to do in Troy people should just automatically show up to games. Last I checked a large number of people don't like football, much less be dragged to a sporting event. I suspect most people who live in small towns are doing what they'd rather do than watch football: playing with videos games and themselves.

Given Troy's success the last few seasons and conference championships and the fact that you "own the belt" you would think that your attendance would be better. Instead its third in the belt and actually down from last year that is sad. Why are you comparing LSU attendance figures with Sun Belt figures anyway? 2000 a game is a big difference when you multiply it by the six home games we had. That is 12,000 more people at MT's games. That nearly equals one home game for Troy.

I guess you won't ever understand that when you say "Troy is third in attendance" that it really doesn't mean anything. Those numbers aren't accurate, and please, spare me your posting a link to ESPN. I'll try to explain it again, because I'm sure you didn't read it:

(12-01-2009 07:26 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  If you think for one minute that those figures aren't inflated or otherwise mettled with, then you're just fooling yourself...

Even if you try to argue that its "all about how full the stadium looks and sounds, and 2,000 makes a big difference in smaller venues like ours," inflation makes the difference in our numbers mean absolutely nothing, so I don't know why these threads even exist.

The "official" attendance count for FIU vs Troy was 10,142. Did you know there were less than 250 people in the stands with 20:00 before kickoff on the pregame clock? The number of fans did grow quite a bit after kick off, but there were no more than 3 or 4,000 fans, max.

So please, lets rid ourselves of the notion that these counts actually mean anything, at all...

As for the LSU reference, it's to show that the difference in our inflated "attendance figures" is chump change, it's miniscule. You can tell a big difference in 90,000 and 20,000. You can't tell much, if any, of a difference between 20,000 and 18,000. But it doesn't matter because the numbers are inflated.

For the limited nearby populations, Troy is doing damn good. You say for how good the team is playing, we should have more fans. Well where are they going to come from? I went to every Troy game this year, and IMO we had better attendance than last year, despite what all the inflated head counts say.

(12-01-2009 09:26 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  2000 a game is a big difference when you multiply it by the six home games we had. That is 12,000 more people at MT's games. That nearly equals one home game for Troy.

It doesn't matter because the numbers are inflated.

(12-01-2009 06:13 PM)Buzzkill Wrote:  It make sense that after losing the Sunbelt to Troy for the 4th season in a row, you would point to something that you actually did do better than us. But I would rather win championships than brag about having a few more butts in the seats.

No, I don't suffer from "little man" syndrome where I have to find something to be better than someone else. I didn't bring it up, I'm just kinda appalled that you're not concerned that your attendance fell from last season.

CBT and Troy4ever21 admitted it just fine, I was responding to your excuses (and then BurnTheHorse's) for not drawing as much as last season, for your best record in FBS. Its a problem across the SBC but the rest didn't have a 9-win team and a stellar home record.

(12-01-2009 10:05 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  

(12-01-2009 06:13 PM)Buzzkill Wrote:  It make sense that after losing the Sunbelt to Troy for the 4th season in a row, you would point to something that you actually did do better than us. But I would rather win championships than brag about having a few more butts in the seats.

I'm just kinda appalled that you're not concerned that your attendance fell from last season.

It doesn't matter because the numbers are inflated and otherwise mettled with.

I thought we did better in attendance this year, we didnt have any 5,000 or less games like our last two games last year WHICH WERE INFLATED TO SAY 11,000+. But some of you will never get that...

(12-01-2009 10:05 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  

(12-01-2009 06:13 PM)Buzzkill Wrote:  It make sense that after losing the Sunbelt to Troy for the 4th season in a row, you would point to something that you actually did do better than us. But I would rather win championships than brag about having a few more butts in the seats.

No, I don't suffer from "little man" syndrome where I have to find something to be better than someone else. I didn't bring it up, I'm just kinda appalled that you're not concerned that your attendance fell from last season.

CBT and Troy4ever21 admitted it just fine, I was responding to your excuses (and then BurnTheHorse's) for not drawing as much as last season, for your best record in FBS. Its a problem across the SBC but the rest didn't have a 9-win team and a stellar home record.

It's not like you guys can say you did any better than us. I'm appauled at how such a little difference in attendance figures means so much to you. You guys had the same record and barely did any better according to corrupted attendance records that many of you are relying on.

The numbers are inflated.