Among any coach we have ever had at UT in the years I have paid attention, Beckman is the worst at having the team ready to play from the start of the game.

1st quarters were awful from Purdue to Bowling Green and in every defeat in between.

He is a first year head coach...I hope he improves...and that the players he bring in as recruits are as talented as the group we had in 2000-2005. A lot of NFL guys came from that period.

Cross?

Hows that his fault that the special teams blocking sucked and eric page muffed a punt on the 1 yd line? Beckman got us back in the game by throwing 30 yd passes on 4th and 1 and putting it all out on the line. I like this guy alot.

back when i played sports i did not count on the coach to fire me up before a game...if i was not motivated to play then there was a serious problem. shouldn't need a rah rah speech or some crap like that to have you fired up from the get go. that's on the players.

(11-28-2009 11:47 PM)adunifon Wrote:  back when i played sports i did not count on the coach to fire me up before a game...if i was not motivated to play then there was a serious problem. shouldn't need a rah rah speech or some crap like that to have you fired up from the get go. that's on the players.

(11-28-2009 11:36 PM)MetroRocket Wrote:  Hows that his fault that the special teams blocking sucked and eric page muffed a punt on the 1 yd line? Beckman got us back in the game by throwing 30 yd passes on 4th and 1 and putting it all out on the line. I like this guy alot.

Purdue jumped ahead 21-0.
Ohio State 38-0 (final score).
WMU pulls ahead 20-0 before we find the scoreboard.
Temple pulled to 13-0 lead.
Bowling Green got ahead 24-0 before we got on the board.

Its ultimately the head coach who gets all the praise and takes all the heat in college football. Tom Amstutz wasn't cut any slack. Why this year are the fans turning the tables and saying these results are on the players and not the coach?

Also MetroRocket, Beckman is the special teams coach, so how is it his fault special teams sucked?? I don't know...

I stand by my 1st statement in this thread. Beckman doesn't have the kids ready to play hard from opening kickoff.

This could be looked at a couple of ways. It could be seen that he can't get the team ready to play, the same players that the previous staff couldn't get ready to play either.

It could also be seen that Beckman and his staff are good at making the changes necessary during the game, and they don't have to wait until halftime to make the proper changes to get things going.

As for special teams, our kick and punt coverage has improved over the last couple of years, we have the best punt return average since Lance Moore was here in 2004, and our kick return average has been very solid. Our punter has had a slow delivery on his punts ever since he started punting for us last year. I don't know how many times the other team has come close to blocking the punt. What's odd is that after blocking the first two punts, BG dropped back and didn't even try to block the third punt. I didn't pay attention after that.

(11-29-2009 11:37 AM)owen Wrote:  

(11-28-2009 11:47 PM)adunifon Wrote:  back when i played sports i did not count on the coach to fire me up before a game...if i was not motivated to play then there was a serious problem. shouldn't need a rah rah speech or some crap like that to have you fired up from the get go. that's on the players.

(11-28-2009 11:36 PM)MetroRocket Wrote:  Hows that his fault that the special teams blocking sucked and eric page muffed a punt on the 1 yd line? Beckman got us back in the game by throwing 30 yd passes on 4th and 1 and putting it all out on the line. I like this guy alot.

Purdue jumped ahead 21-0.
Ohio State 38-0 (final score).
WMU pulls ahead 20-0 before we find the scoreboard.
Temple pulled to 13-0 lead.
Bowling Green got ahead 24-0 before we got on the board.

Its ultimately the head coach who gets all the praise and takes all the heat in college football. Tom Amstutz wasn't cut any slack. Why this year are the fans turning the tables and saying these results are on the players and not the coach?

Also MetroRocket, Beckman is the special teams coach, so how is it his fault special teams sucked?? I don't know...

I stand by my 1st statement in this thread. Beckman doesn't have the kids ready to play hard from opening kickoff.

I agree with Owen 100% on this. I'd throw the Miami game into the mix as well. Along with a lack of enthuisiasm at the start, it always seemed (except for the Colorado game) like it took an entire quarter of "feeling out the opponent" to delvelop a game plan.

With Colorado, we seemed to go for the throat straight from the opening kickoff and played to our potential for most of the game. Not sure why that wasnt the prevailing attitude for every game.

(11-29-2009 12:30 PM)rickk Wrote:  I agree with Owen 100% on this. I'd throw the Miami game into the mix as well. Along with a lack of enthuisiasm at the start, it always seemed (except for the Colorado game) like it took an entire quarter of "feeling out the opponent" to delvelop a game plan.

I wanted to throw the Miami game in but it didn't exactly meet the criteria I was laying out there.

But I hoped someone would bring up the Miami debacle because overall losing to a team with zero wins is just darned pathetic. And UT was lethargic for the most part. Only urgency was at the end.

And we were awful flat most of the BSU game.

(11-29-2009 02:25 PM)owen Wrote:  

(11-29-2009 12:30 PM)rickk Wrote:  I agree with Owen 100% on this. I'd throw the Miami game into the mix as well. Along with a lack of enthuisiasm at the start, it always seemed (except for the Colorado game) like it took an entire quarter of "feeling out the opponent" to delvelop a game plan.

I wanted to throw the Miami game in but it didn't exactly meet the criteria I was laying out there.

But I hoped someone would bring up the Miami debacle because overall losing to a team with zero wins is just darned pathetic. And UT was lethargic for the most part. Only urgency was at the end.

And we were awful flat most of the BSU game.

As much as Beckman emphasized team building in the off season and competition there was something lacking in the locker room that we dont know. My take is he brought in his recruits, played them( Page exceptional) and left out many of the exisiting players. He was making his statement but in the meantime there were too many losses at the expense of the team. Knowing Opelt injured we did not know who was the QB. Each week was a crap shoot who would play, that is tough to get the offense rolling. New QBs coming in ,hope it lends to competition and not crowning Dantin. Im not sold.
The games lost were not acceptable to the Rockets or Rocket Nation and I am sure off season will be and should be busy. Its time for a winning season. Go Rockets!

(11-29-2009 10:16 PM)robroy Wrote:  My take is he brought in his recruits, played them( Page exceptional) and left out many of the exisiting players. He was making his statement but in the meantime there were too many losses at the expense of the team.

The majority of the freshman did not play and redshirted instead this year. More than in year's past with Amstutz as the coach. How is that playing his recruits and leaving out the existing players?