Very off topic, but it seems to a pretty popular issue in the DeKalb area from what I'm reading on the Daily Chronicle's website.

What is the big deal? I don't really understand why people care if there are windmills in view from their house? It's not like they create pollution, you would think they are putting in coal power plants the way these people are complaining. What exactly are the negatives of these things? Seems like much ado about nothing to me.

Am I missing something here?

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/.../index.xml

It is the not in my backyard attitude. Also, the animal lovers will tell you that too many birds are killed by windmills. You try and get off of fossil fuels and all the special interest groups jump on you.

I guess my question is.. who cares, it's a windmill in the backyard, not an urban development or neighborhood or commercial property. I understand not wanting a factory or a coal power plant in your backyard or nuclear power, but what the hell, it's a windmill? It's not like it creates pollution or smells bad.

I would imagine if they killed too many birds they wouldn't be legal. And I'm sure the lowered pollution from something like a windmill leads to less animal's deaths than coal power anyways.

How does it affect their quality of life negatively in any way is my question? Do they require numerous employees to man them or something? I just don't get it. I have to be missing something here.

Others also say there is an issue caused by the electromagnetic fields generated by the windmills. They also point to that from a "green" standpoint, they aren't that big a step foreward. There was a big stink in Boone County a while back as they wanted to put some up near Belvidere and people went nuts.

Just all seems very silly to me. If they have windmills it means that developments won't show up, you'd think these people would be happy. Better then more housing I'd have to think. This may just be one of those things I'll never understand.

(10-19-2009 11:17 AM)klake87 Wrote:  It is the not in my backyard attitude. Also, the animal lovers will tell you that too many birds are killed by windmills. You try and get off of fossil fuels and all the special interest groups jump on you.

Windmills will only kill the stupid birds who can not figure out how to stay away from giant, moving blades. It will cull the herd. Eventually the birds will evolve into a creature that is smart enough to avoid windmills.








They should also learn how to stay off the bike path.

Windmills make a fair amount of noise.

Swoosh......... Swoosh........ Swoosh......... Swoosh........ Swoosh......... Swoosh........ Swoosh.........

I'll have to drive past them sometime and check that out, didn't think about that.

How loud do the things get? That's the first legitimate complaint I've heard.

I was maybe 100yds away from one at a rest stop, and while you could easily talk, it was very noticeable.

I would say its like hearing an air-conditioning compressor shut on and off, on and off, on and off ad-infinitum. Or a far-away helicopter, but a little slower beat.

(10-19-2009 04:43 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I was maybe 100yds away from one at a rest stop, and while you could easily talk, it was very noticeable.

I would say its like hearing an air-conditioning compressor shut on and off, on and off, on and off ad-infinitum. Or a far-away helicopter, but a little slower beat.

+1000
They are terrible.

Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

The newest designed windmills can provide the average energy needs for 400-450 homes. That's a trememdous amount of clean energy from one unit. Not that i've spent any time near a windmill but if I had to choose between living near a nuclear plant, a coal fired plant , an oil refinery or a windmill; I'm sure windmill would be an easy choice.

(10-20-2009 12:39 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

On Rt. 30 by heartbreakers?

(10-20-2009 08:21 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 12:39 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

On Rt. 30 by heartbreakers?

How come every time you talk directions, the reference point is some strip club!

(10-20-2009 08:24 AM)NIURedBlack Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 08:21 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 12:39 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

On Rt. 30 by heartbreakers?

How come every time you talk directions, the reference point is some strip club!

Maybe there should be a nav system setting for strip clubs.

SHWING! Make a U-turn, if possible.

:tasha: :daphne:

(10-20-2009 08:24 AM)NIURedBlack Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 08:21 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 12:39 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

On Rt. 30 by heartbreakers?

How come every time you talk directions, the reference point is some strip club!

Or gay bar?

(10-20-2009 08:21 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2009 12:39 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(10-19-2009 07:03 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  Birds?
Who needs them?
They are dispendable and play no worthwhile role in eco system.
Too bad if windmills may disrupt migration patterns.

Who really needs nature anyways?

BTW:
I favor them as long as the endless woosh is not in my backyard.
It is, afterall, all about me and my needs- not yours or some nebulous sense of community.

Travel the highway from San Fran to Yosemite and eastward past Livermore, Cal after viewing 1,000 - yes 1000 windmills and tell me your impressions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

I believe there is a pretty big wind farm if you go south on 39 from 88. I can't remember how far but I don't think it was that far. Of course, we could get rid of the windmills and "drill baby drill".

On Rt. 30 by heartbreakers?

Can't remember I have only driven past it one time(have never been to Heartbreakers though-and probably never will because the only time I have gone to a strip club it wasn't exactly "stimulating" but I suppose it could have just been a bad place) but that sounds about right.