Hear JHood on ESPN saying now that the Cubs have spent $100M+ on payroll they'll need to spend more on pitching next year, unfortunately there isn't much on the FA market this fall. Kenny Williams is a genius, gets Garcia back to throw out as a 5th starter for small $. Maybe the Cubs will trade Jake Fox to WS this offseason for Garcia and WS can either not resign Thome or get Konerko traded. Building for the future w/o not sacrificing the present KW is one of the best at what he does.

John Lackey's out there and would interest me. But it wouldn't doubt me if the ownership situation is still in limbo in the offseason, even though reports are that it's nearly over.

(08-18-2009 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Smoltz has lost all effectiveness, what a career though. Can't see anyone picking him up.

5 innings pitched and 9 strikeouts
yea he sure did lose his effectiveness, another great pickup by Mo!

(08-23-2009 08:01 PM)niutbbucfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2009 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Smoltz has lost all effectiveness, what a career though. Can't see anyone picking him up.

5 innings pitched and 9 strikeouts
yea he sure did lose his effectiveness, another great pickup by Mo!

9 K's and only 3 hits is great, but 5 IP with those numbers is pretty bad. gonna take a toll on the bullpen if they have to routinely pitch 4 innings every time he starts.

a 5th starter going 5 innings is fine.. He's doing his job well. One more inning and you'd be saying it was a great start.

(08-23-2009 08:56 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(08-23-2009 08:01 PM)niutbbucfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2009 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Smoltz has lost all effectiveness, what a career though. Can't see anyone picking him up.

5 innings pitched and 9 strikeouts
yea he sure did lose his effectiveness, another great pickup by Mo!

9 K's and only 3 hits is great, but 5 IP with those numbers is pretty bad. gonna take a toll on the bullpen if they have to routinely pitch 4 innings every time he starts.

no different than any other around 40 starter, you also got to to consider several other things. Mitchell Boggs and Todd Wellemeyer both have been giving up around 5+ runs when ever they'd start in that spot. Then you also have a great 1-2-3 punch in Carpenter, Wainwright, and Pinero who all go 7+ innings every start so the long relief needs the work.

Exactly.. 5 innings, zero runs.. I think just about any team will take that. Especially when they have 3 other very good pitchers.

alex rios is awful by the way

At least KW found a sucker team to take Contreras. Rockies mgmt better issue hard hats to fans on days Contreras pitches at Coors Field.

Sox win it 4-3 in extra innings....yessss....hell yessss. 6.5 down with 21 to go, possible or should we give up? 6 left with the Tigs

They have to take all 6 with the Tigers.

Yeah only chance is if the sox take all 6 vs the tigers. Playoff % at 3.9% haha.

(09-10-2009 01:28 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Yeah only chance is if the sox take all 6 vs the tigers. Playoff % at 3.9% haha.

So basically we are looking at playoff percentage chances close to Rios' batting average with the White Sox, pretty meager.

Royals beat the Tigers again today. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

If we were not headed out to the west coast I would have started to wonder again.

What is up with Rios? We owe this chump 60 milliion?

You know Brian Anderson was really good in the outfield, but people complained about his 220 batting average.

Brian Anderson is looking pretty good these days.

I usually left it up to the Cubs to have lots of bad paper but damn.

we're stuck with this chump and his stupid contract.

Small. Sample. Size.

Brian Anderson is bad. He has been bad, and he will continue to be bad. He will never look good unless you are comparing him to DeWayne Wise.

I'll assume Rios is going to look a lot more like he did for the first 95% of his career than he has in his couple months with the White Sox while playing for a new team, in a new spot in the order and getting spot playing time for the first time in his career. It's quite an adjustment.

If you are going to judge a baseball player by what they do in a 2 month period you are an idiot.

(09-11-2009 04:15 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Small. Sample. Size.

Brian Anderson is bad. He has been bad, and he will continue to be bad. He will never look good unless you are comparing him to DeWayne Wise.

I'll assume Rios is going to look a lot more like he did for the first 95% of his career than he has in his couple months with the White Sox while playing for a new team, in a new spot in the order and getting spot playing time for the first time in his career. It's quite an adjustment.

If you are going to judge a baseball player by what they do in a 2 month period you are an idiot.

It is a relatively small sample size but yet alarming he could look as bad as he has even for that stretch, especially he was a .285 career hitter. He looks clueless up there, hopefully it will turn around next year.

(09-11-2009 04:15 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Small. Sample. Size.

Brian Anderson is bad. He has been bad, and he will continue to be bad. He will never look good unless you are comparing him to DeWayne Wise.

I'll assume Rios is going to look a lot more like he did for the first 95% of his career than he has in his couple months with the White Sox while playing for a new team, in a new spot in the order and getting spot playing time for the first time in his career. It's quite an adjustment.

If you are going to judge a baseball player by what they do in a 2 month period you are an idiot.

I might be an idiot but my guess would be it has little to do with my evaluation of Rios.

I think there might be a reason Toronto was willing to say good bye.

I am a big time Kenny propenent. In the business he is in one has to make hard choices and take chances. That's much what I like about Kenny.

The White Sox were trying to make a run and you get this Rios cat that looks like he has never batted in the major leagues. TO be fair Dye, Konerko, Thome, Quintin looked like they should be demoted too.

GO SOX, beat the Halos

(09-11-2009 04:44 PM)western_101 Wrote:  

(09-11-2009 04:15 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Small. Sample. Size.

Brian Anderson is bad. He has been bad, and he will continue to be bad. He will never look good unless you are comparing him to DeWayne Wise.

I'll assume Rios is going to look a lot more like he did for the first 95% of his career than he has in his couple months with the White Sox while playing for a new team, in a new spot in the order and getting spot playing time for the first time in his career. It's quite an adjustment.

If you are going to judge a baseball player by what they do in a 2 month period you are an idiot.

I might be an idiot but my guess would be it has little to do with my evaluation of Rios.

I think there might be a reason Toronto was willing to say good bye.

I am a big time Kenny propenent. In the business he is in one has to make hard choices and take chances. That's much what I like about Kenny.

The White Sox were trying to make a run and you get this Rios cat that looks like he has never batted in the major leagues. TO be fair Dye, Konerko, Thome, Quintin looked like they should be demoted too.

GO SOX, beat the Halos

Yeah I cant blame Williams for making the move when he thought his team was in it, just have been disappointed with Rios so far. Speaking of those Jays, GO BLUE JAYS BEAT THE TIGERS!

Rios is absolutely killing this team, maybe he can get it together in the off-season but they cannot keep giving him AB's this year. UGH.

It's not as if Rios is singlehandedly undoing the season. He hasn't hit since he got here, but he is not alone. There's Dye's second half uberslump, Pods' baserunning mistakes, Alexei's defensive brain farts, Quentin's poor offensive performance, and the complete disintegration of the bullpen except Thornton. That's without getting into Buehrle's poor post-perfecto August, and the overall unreliability of any starter but Gavin lately.

The one Hawkism that I do wholeheartedly embrace this year is that you aren't as good as you look when things are going well or as bad as you look when things are bad. That's the Sox year in a nutshell.

It would be one thing if this were a .500 team that beats the bad and loses to the good. This has been a team that has played to the level of it's competition. Lose to the bad, play with the good. That's the heart of the frustration.