(08-31-2009 07:23 AM)newcampbellfan Wrote:  Believe they will beat Valparaiso and get an upset along the way, maybe either Drake, Butler or Morehead State.....nothing wrong with dreaming a little! You got to BELIEVE!

Maybe Valpo - I think the remainder are a stretch.

CU may beat Methodist and Birmingham Southern, but that is only possibilities against D-3 teams that narrowly defeated the Camels last year. The only conference game they have a chance at is Butler. If they had a coach that could call sensible offensive plays correctly they could have beat Butler last year or at least tied or with the lead at the half which could have been a moral victory at that point. Old Dominion in their 1st year will just smoke them
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newcampbellfan, you sure have allot of confidence in a team and coach you haven't seen perform. I just believe in keeping it real. I said I wouldn't post on this any further on this topic so we'll see at the end of the season what progress if any has been made. Fulmer was so great at UT that they made him resign! The most overrated coach in SEC history. The main reason he's still not at UT.

camels7778, I will say that making the blowouts closer is a realistic and possibly obtainable goal, and that has to be achieved before there's any hope of beating established teams.

Camel76, if you only knew the background of my son's high school, you would understand why I attempt to be so positive. Negativity breeds losing, so I have always attempted to be positive. Yea, I've never seen a single one of these schools play in a real game..... I can only attest to the level I've seen in the Southern Conference....I'll be making my 8 hour trip over this weekend, at which time I will get to see the team and coaches in real action. Monday, I'll post my observations and thoughts.... Told you I wasn't going to get started on Fulmer! Let him rest in his millions.....

previous to last year nearly 60 years of senior classes passed thru Buies Creek (including mine in 1997) wanting to have a college football team. i wouldve been satisfied(at least the first couple years) to be 10-0 or 1-10. I wish we couldve won a few more games last year, but i was there every game supporting and cheering no matter the outcome. i will be again this year, no matter what our record is. i think the coaching staff as a whole deserves at least 2-3 years or more to get some wins. however growth, development and improvement should be expected. this may in fact bring wins we just dont know how soon yet. just my humble opionon. Beat MU!

(09-01-2009 02:35 PM)CU97 Wrote:  previous to last year nearly 60 years of senior classes passed thru Buies Creek (including mine in 1997) wanting to have a college football team. i wouldve been satisfied(at least the first couple years) to be 10-0 or 1-10. I wish we couldve won a few more games last year, but i was there every game supporting and cheering no matter the outcome. i will be again this year, no matter what our record is. i think the coaching staff as a whole deserves at least 2-3 years or more to get some wins. however growth, development and improvement should be expected. this may in fact bring wins we just dont know how soon yet. just my humble opionon. Beat MU!

Right on brother!!!! Take one at a time.... Well stated!

(08-31-2009 08:27 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  CU may beat Methodist and Birmingham Southern, but that is only possibilities against D-3 teams that narrowly defeated the Camels last year. The only conference game they have a chance at is Butler. If they had a coach that could call sensible offensive plays correctly they could have beat Butler last year or at least tied or with the lead at the half which could have been a moral victory at that point. Old Dominion in their 1st year will just smoke them
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newcampbellfan, you sure have allot of confidence in a team and coach you haven't seen perform. I just believe in keeping it real. I said I wouldn't post on this any further on this topic so we'll see at the end of the season what progress if any has been made. Fulmer was so great at UT that they made him resign! The most overrated coach in SEC history. The main reason he's still not at UT.

camels7778, I will say that making the blowouts closer is a realistic and possibly obtainable goal, and that has to be achieved before there's any hope of beating established teams.

I think you meant Valp not Butler. We had a chance to go up on Valp at the half. Butler beat us to death.

newcampbellfan, don't know where you're from, 8 hours away so don't care, but I would challenge you to the background and championship level of the high school we support. Let me put it in a better prospective, in the many thousands of high school football programs all over this country, it ranks in the top 100. I fully understand what positiveness breeds in anything we do in life. I also understand reality.
I understand very well your excitement in seeing your son play college football, but please don't expect it to be at the level of the Southern Conference. Campbell is playing a small Division III school this week they should win. They should have won last year.
Camelfan, Valpo or Butler, my recollection was they all beat us to death, but there could have been some changes, different calls, player management that could have shed a different light on the games, other than beating the same old drum. In my opinion CU should have used their place kicker on many different occasions they did not. I don't even know his name but I think he's the only player who could have legitimately played at the D-1 BCS level. He was good.In my opinion CU was no better at the end of the season than they were the first. We'll see about this year. The coaching is going to have to make some drastic changes in a number of areas to tell a difference, otherwise the same old drum beat.

(09-02-2009 07:08 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  newcampbellfan, don't know where you're from, 8 hours away so don't care, but I would challenge you to the background and championship level of the high school we support. Let me put it in a better prospective, in the many thousands of high school football programs all over this country, it ranks in the top 100. I fully understand what positiveness breeds in anything we do in life. I also understand reality.
I understand very well your excitement in seeing your son play college football, but please don't expect it to be at the level of the Southern Conference. Campbell is playing a small Division III school this week they should win. They should have won last year.
Camelfan, Valpo or Butler, my recollection was they all beat us to death, but there could have been some changes, different calls, player management that could have shed a different light on the games, other than beating the same old drum. In my opinion CU should have used their place kicker on many different occasions they did not. I don't even know his name but I think he's the only player who could have legitimately played at the D-1 BCS level. He was good.In my opinion CU was no better at the end of the season than they were the first. We'll see about this year. The coaching is going to have to make some drastic changes in a number of areas to tell a difference, otherwise the same old drum beat.

That's great you support a High School football team that in your mind is in the top 100. I was referring to a HS program that would be in the bottom 100 in the nation, however. I know what it means to lose and how long it takes to build a program, and how negativity can be destructive. You must not, obviously, and it shows by your association with a so-called successful HS program.
Just because I mention a team or a conference does not mean I am comparing Campbell to those teams or conferences. I've seen USC play on TV as well, so please don't think I am now comparing Campbell to them! Only player who could have legitimately played at the D-1 BCS level? I would like to see other D1 teams play Freshman and a few Sophomores the entire time and then get your opinion of how good they might be! Another negative comment about the Campbell players! Oh yea, it's just 'realistic' , right? Keep up the comments and keep digging your hole deeper, maybe so deep that you will never get out, and can just sit at the bottom and talk negative to yourself the whole time where no one can hear or care (if they even care now)... By the way, seems like I read a quote from Coach Steel somewhere that states "I don't care about last year.....".... well said... it's a new time, and maybe time for you to quit bashing Campbell football with your 'realistic' negative opinions......

(09-01-2009 02:35 PM)CU97 Wrote:  previous to last year nearly 60 years of senior classes passed thru Buies Creek (including mine in 1997) wanting to have a college football team. i wouldve been satisfied(at least the first couple years) to be 10-0 or 1-10. I wish we couldve won a few more games last year, but i was there every game supporting and cheering no matter the outcome. i will be again this year, no matter what our record is. i think the coaching staff as a whole deserves at least 2-3 years or more to get some wins. however growth, development and improvement should be expected. this may in fact bring wins we just dont know how soon yet. just my humble opionon. Beat MU!

I completely agree. After not having football for so long, now that it's here can't we get some level of enjoyment out of that rather than constant criticism? One year is not long enough to judge anybody. Enjoy the games and hopefully the team and coaching staff works hard and gets some wins.

(09-03-2009 08:44 AM)CUalum Wrote:  

(09-01-2009 02:35 PM)CU97 Wrote:  previous to last year nearly 60 years of senior classes passed thru Buies Creek (including mine in 1997) wanting to have a college football team. i wouldve been satisfied(at least the first couple years) to be 10-0 or 1-10. I wish we couldve won a few more games last year, but i was there every game supporting and cheering no matter the outcome. i will be again this year, no matter what our record is. i think the coaching staff as a whole deserves at least 2-3 years or more to get some wins. however growth, development and improvement should be expected. this may in fact bring wins we just dont know how soon yet. just my humble opionon. Beat MU!

I completely agree. After not having football for so long, now that it's here can't we get some level of enjoyment out of that rather than constant criticism? One year is not long enough to judge anybody. Enjoy the games and hopefully the team and coaching staff works hard and gets some wins.

I agree with you 100%! There is no room for a start up program to have constant criticism.

newcampbellfan, sorry my posts offend you. I have a suggestion, why don't you take your own advise and not read them before you injure your mental health.. You don't know me nor what I know or have experienced with the program so you might consider there's another point of view other than the sunshine club approach.
The so call successful high school program i support in my own mind? The rating is a national rating by a national service, not my opinion. As for it's success, show me a player or program that finds positives in losing and I'll show you a loser.
Start-up program, most of the starters are entering their 3rd year of college football exposure.They're juniors in college! You can't use the start up excuse forever. The Pembroke State coach obviously didn't
see it that way going 9-1 in their 2nd year. Oh thats right they give 30 scholarships, but it's Div II and Pembroke State for Pete sake.
Reality? until you deal with reality appropriately, your dreams will never be realized.
Div-I FBS players?, they're not and obviously your son's not or they wouldn't be a CU. Nothing wrong with that, but the problem comes with a player or program/coach has a identity crisis not understanding what they are. Nothing wrong with non-scholarship football. The Ivy league is non-scholarship football but they don't have any problem with who they are and don't pretend to be something they're not. That's not a knock on the players. In my opinion the placekicker is the only player that could possibly play on a Div-I FBS team, and though I don't know him he probably should except for the fact he's getting a great education at CU. Problem was his coach wouldn't utilize him when sometimes he should have or at least give him the experience when games were way out of reach of victory.
Constant criticism. The only criticism I've given is to the coach. I don't think he nor his staff have done a very good job of coaching the team.
I think Steele did a good job of starting it up, but it will take a proven winner to be successful in the win and loss department.The University has done a excellent job in developing/promoting the program and facilities. They just need to take the next step and get a winning football coach.
I do hope you have a great experience with you son's first college football experience, I really honestly do but at the end of the season if some of the same bonehead coaching decision are made throughout the season, I might be able to say I told you so.
Campbell can do better and they will
As for Steele's comment about not caring about last year, there were allot of things he didn't care about last year and it showed up big-time.
Have a good season and try not to get too frustrated.

(09-03-2009 11:07 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  newcampbellfan, sorry my posts offend you. I have a suggestion, why don't you take your own advise and not read them before you injure your mental health.. You don't know me nor what I know or have experienced with the program so you might consider there's another point of view other than the sunshine club approach.
The so call successful high school program i support in my own mind? The rating is a national rating by a national service, not my opinion. As for it's success, show me a player or program that finds positives in losing and I'll show you a loser.
Start-up program, most of the starters are entering their 3rd year of college football exposure.They're juniors in college! You can't use the start up excuse forever. The Pembroke State coach obviously didn't
see it that way going 9-1 in their 2nd year. Oh thats right they give 30 scholarships, but it's Div II and Pembroke State for Pete sake.
Reality? until you deal with reality appropriately, your dreams will never be realized.
Div-I FBS players?, they're not and obviously your son's not or they wouldn't be a CU. Nothing wrong with that, but the problem comes with a player or program/coach has a identity crisis not understanding what they are. Nothing wrong with non-scholarship football. The Ivy league is non-scholarship football but they don't have any problem with who they are and don't pretend to be something they're not. That's not a knock on the players. In my opinion the placekicker is the only player that could possibly play on a Div-I FBS team, and though I don't know him he probably should except for the fact he's getting a great education at CU. Problem was his coach wouldn't utilize him when sometimes he should have or at least give him the experience when games were way out of reach of victory.
Constant criticism. The only criticism I've given is to the coach. I don't think he nor his staff have done a very good job of coaching the team.
I think Steele did a good job of starting it up, but it will take a proven winner to be successful in the win and loss department.The University has done a excellent job in developing/promoting the program and facilities. They just need to take the next step and get a winning football coach.
I do hope you have a great experience with you son's first college football experience, I really honestly do but at the end of the season if some of the same bonehead coaching decision are made throughout the season, I might be able to say I told you so.
Campbell can do better and they will
As for Steele's comment about not caring about last year, there were allot of things he didn't care about last year and it showed up big-time.
Have a good season and try not to get too frustrated.

I don't like some things that went on last year and I did not agree with many of the calls of the coaching staff last year but your negativity is over the top here.

I don't think you are the one to decide whether a player is FBS Div 1 or not. That will be decided on the field. It is OK to criticise decisions made and those not made and the staff and the performance. But does every post made on the board have to be a criticism. And then to go after the parent of one of our players like you have. Some folks are excited about the upcoming year and want to see us do well and all you want to do is bring them down and fuss and complain. I share some of your concerns but you dwell on them way too much. Why not get behind the team and support the players and ecourage someone once in a while. Your efforts would go much better in that direction than to constantly be critical.

By the way what high school program are you talking about that is in the top 100?

(09-02-2009 07:08 PM)Camel76 Wrote:  newcampbellfan, don't know where you're from, 8 hours away so don't care, but I would challenge you to the background and championship level of the high school we support. Let me put it in a better prospective, in the many thousands of high school football programs all over this country, it ranks in the top 100. I fully understand what positiveness breeds in anything we do in life. I also understand reality.
I understand very well your excitement in seeing your son play college football, but please don't expect it to be at the level of the Southern Conference. Campbell is playing a small Division III school this week they should win. They should have won last year.
Camelfan, Valpo or Butler, my recollection was they all beat us to death, but there could have been some changes, different calls, player management that could have shed a different light on the games, other than beating the same old drum. In my opinion CU should have used their place kicker on many different occasions they did not. I don't even know his name but I think he's the only player who could have legitimately played at the D-1 BCS level. He was good.In my opinion CU was no better at the end of the season than they were the first. We'll see about this year. The coaching is going to have to make some drastic changes in a number of areas to tell a difference, otherwise the same old drum beat.

It was Valpo. We could have gone in ahead or tied at half time. Carl Smith got the ball down to inside the five yard line with less than 1 minute in the first half. We threw three passes in the endzone and had one intercepted. We came out the second half and got blown off the field. I was just setting the facts straight.

I agree the negative is always bad but to attack the parents of one of Campbell's players and disparage their son's athletic ability is simply over the top and uncalled for. I think it is getting pretty clear that you starting to upset quite a few people on the board. If people are excited for the season let them be excited. Lord knows we need more people that have an positive outlook about the program. A positive outlook will lead to a better outcome than the negative outlook you seem to be harboring.

If you are a loyal "supporter of the program" I would hate to meet the enemies. I am just happy to have football. I think adding the sport reflects very well on the school and athletic program. Eventually it would be nice to win but I am willing to be more patient and just look for improvements from last year.

Locking this thread now.