Delaware has no TV stations, Philly & Balt are it.
While philly got B-10 game on
& Balt has ACC game on
Comcast has Temple & MAC
BE is on MASN in Del, so your not gaining anything. BE is on MASN anyway

(07-10-2009 06:43 PM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(07-10-2009 04:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  North Carolina:
#1 UNC
#2 NC State
#3 Wake Forest/Duke*
#5 East Carolina

I'm a firm believer ECU could easily pass Wake and Duke in terms of football program if given similar access as those schools have been. I'm less confident that Big East football presidents will be able to get over some of their academic snobbery to allow it to happen.

Cheers,
Neil

Academics at East Carolina are getting much better.
Several years ago the State of North Carolina passed a 2 Billion + bond issue to upgrade facilities on all 16 of it's campuses. A part of the overall plan was to shift some of the student population within the University system. This plan included reducing the student population at East Carolina by about 300 students per year (incoming freshmen), at the same time it increased student population in other locations (i.e.; the freshman class size at Western Carolina was increased to equal the size of the junior and senior classes combined in 2004). This reduction at East Carolina was done by increasing admission standards.
East Carolina may not reach Syracuse standards anytime soon, but academics at East Carolina are getting much better.

(07-11-2009 11:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Delaware has no TV stations, Philly & Balt are it.

No sh!t. Right now they're an FCS team, which wouldn't generate much interest in either city. But elevate them to FBS in a BCS conference, let 'em be competitive, and see how quickly that changes...

(07-11-2009 11:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Delaware has no TV stations, Philly & Balt are it.

Salisbury, MD actually has broadcast stations, which are the closest to Delaware.

your right Bit, I can see the toll booths jammed up with all the people from Baltimore coming up to see the Blue Hens.
maybe they build bridge over Delaware bay for all the people from Jersey
the Eagles wiil have to move, to find another fan Base
WDEL [UD radio station] will sign the BE to 42 million dollar contract to do BE games
them 11 recurits the last 5 yrs will elimante any depth promblems BE has
when Delaware steals SE PA, B-10 kicks out PSU

I bet they'd draw more than Temple ever did in The BEast...

On the flip side Bit, you can invite UD, & tell everybody thier Michigan

(07-11-2009 03:15 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I bet they'd draw more than Temple ever did in The BEast...

I think they do that already

(07-11-2009 03:24 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 03:17 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 03:15 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I bet they'd draw more than Temple ever did in The BEast...

I think they do that already

Indeed they do (from Wiki):

"Delaware football has consistently outdrawn all college football programs in the Philadelphia metropolitan area, with the exception of Temple University in 2007, however that was only due to Temple's home game against Penn State where attendance was more than double the normal average."

You take out that one game in that one year, and Delaware pretty consistently outdraws Temple. Keep in mind they're basically maxing out the capacity at their current stadium, so who knows how many they could draw with a bigger house.

-Chris

and playing better known teams would help also.

Yeah KC, but didn't you do a post about crossing state lines & effectally saying thier no croossover.
I live in Delaware, & when I tell people that, you can't believe how many people ask what state Delaware in.
I don't like trashing Delaware, but it's FB program is Max out, they can't do nothing in BB.
I was never Delaware fan because nobody on FB team is from Del.
But if they get in the BE, I'll be there

I spent most of my childhood summers in Baltimore and Washington DC. Nobody cares about Delaware down there and joining the Big East would not change this reality. That is Terrapins country. Penn State would rank next on the list followed by the Cavaliers, Hocakes, and Mountaineers. Delaware certainly has the Diamond State to itself, and perhaps some penetration into Philadelphia, but counting Baltimore and Washington DC as part of the Blue Hens assumed media market is a clear and total stretch. Joe Biden, Tom Carper, Ted Kaufman, and Mike Castle might tune in if some games were shown in Washington DC, but they really have much more important matters to be concerned about. The only way Delaware could ever have a real impact in those two cities would be by joining the ACC and beating Maryland enough times to spark a fierce rivalry between those two programs.

Well if they were in Big East they might get to play Maryland on and off. Im sure the WV games would be big draw

(07-11-2009 03:24 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  You take out that one game in that one year, and Delaware pretty consistently outdraws Temple. Keep in mind they're basically maxing out the capacity at their current stadium, so who knows how many they could draw with a bigger house.

Figure a bigger house, a bigger stage, some national interest (if they play competitive football in The BEast), and Delaware is as attractive, if not more so, than any other potential candidate at present...

(07-11-2009 03:19 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 02:34 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 11:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Delaware has no TV stations, Philly & Balt are it.

No sh!t. Right now they're an FCS team, which wouldn't generate much interest in either city. But elevate them to FBS in a BCS conference, let 'em be competitive, and see how quickly that changes...

Very true, and to add on to your earlier point...

DISTANCE FROM UMASS:
Boston (91.7 miles)

DISTANCE FROM U OF DELAWARE:
Washington, DC (96.7 miles)
Baltimore (58.3 miles)
Philadelphia, PA (44.0 miles)

As such, people trying to make it sound like Delaware is in the middle of nowhere are nuts. By any meaningful measure, Delaware is a better candidate.

Also, I'm officially filing the absurd "UMass is in Boston" myth next to "Rutgers is in Manhattan" in the geographical stupidity drawer.

-Chris

For a private school like BC, how many students are actually from Boston area?
Like most private school they have small enrollment class and their student body most likely came from around the country.
So how many in Boston actually cares about BC specifically if not for college football fans looking for college game to enjoy and simply pick a local team to root for. If they have another team in their state to root for that competes at the highest level especially when it is a public school rather a private school. You can be sure there would be a statewide support.

Where/how did Delaware get such a huge endowment?

Isnt being the BEST program in a state like Wyoming or Delaware like being the tallest midget? (can i use that word still?)

(07-11-2009 01:41 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  No, but we do compare to Tufts, Brandeis, Boston College, Boston University, Worcester Polytechnic, Clark, and Northeastern, ALL OF WHICH are ranked higher than UMass.

HA HA! The only one with a football program that could possibly join is BC, and last time I checked, they left the Big East! Please explain to me why having more schools ahead of you in the state is more important than being one of the better institutions in the conference???

(07-11-2009 01:41 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  My vision for the Big East has always been a conference stretching across the Northeast and South Atlantic regions, touching as many areas as possible by taking the BEST program in each area. We should be the absolute best everywhere in our footprint. Delaware is the best option in that region. UMass is NOT the best option in their region, Boston College is.

Once again, BC left the Big East by choice. I'm sure being a Golden Knight fan, you would LOVE to see them in a BCS league. They're not the "best option" in their region, the BE felt South Florida was. So tell me, what do you think about UCF to the Big East? Insert KnightChris between rock and hard place.

Originally a midget was defined as an adult human of a small size. A specific height was once given. But all that has been removed in the name of political correctness, since certain words are no longer in favor. However, a midget was also bigger than a dwarf, which was defined as a person smaller than a midget. And since anything outside the norm in human society is ridiculed, (it doesn't matter what it is, as long as it's outside the norm) both terms became terms of derision and exclusion...

Use the terms at your own risk and discretion, dude...

(07-11-2009 05:50 PM)SO#1 Wrote:  For a private school like BC, how many students are actually from Boston area?
Like most private school they have small enrollment class and their student body most likely came from around the country.
So how many in Boston actually cares about BC specifically if not for college football fans looking for college game to enjoy and simply pick a local team to root for. If they have another team in their state to root for that competes at the highest level especially when it is a public school rather a private school. You can be sure there would be a statewide support.

Apparently enough care to generate ratings of 3.3 and 3.5 two years in a row (2006 and 2007) when match-upped with VT for an ESPN Thursday night showdown. The second match-up and the higher of the two, was opposite a Red Sox/Colorado World Series Game 2.

Again, I love to rag on BC as much as the next guy, probably more. But we can't as Big East fans jizz our pants about the ratings the USF/Rutgers received the week before (3.39) up against the Red Sox/Cleveland Game 5 and then totally discount the ratings BC/VT received the very next week up against a Red Sox/Rockies World Series Game 2.

Obviously BC has more support than some on this board care to admit - at least when it comes to their football.

Cheers,
Neil

(07-11-2009 09:52 PM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(07-11-2009 05:50 PM)SO#1 Wrote:  For a private school like BC, how many students are actually from Boston area?
Like most private school they have small enrollment class and their student body most likely came from around the country.
So how many in Boston actually cares about BC specifically if not for college football fans looking for college game to enjoy and simply pick a local team to root for. If they have another team in their state to root for that competes at the highest level especially when it is a public school rather a private school. You can be sure there would be a statewide support.

Apparently enough care to generate ratings of 3.3 and 3.5 two years in a row (2006 and 2007) when match-upped with VT for an ESPN Thursday night showdown. The second match-up and the higher of the two, was opposite a Red Sox/Colorado World Series Game 2.

Again, I love to rag on BC as much as the next guy, probably more. But we can't as Big East fans jizz our pants about the ratings the USF/Rutgers received the week before (3.39) up against the Red Sox/Cleveland Game 5 and then totally discount the ratings BC/VT received the very next week up against a Red Sox/Rockies World Series Game 2.

Obviously BC has more support than some on this board care to admit - at least when it comes to their football.

Cheers,
Neil

-- Its just football support that doesn't show up to games or travel to bowl games

Jackson

That's right, Jackson. Folks will support BC in Boston, if they can do so from the comfort of their own living room...