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(04-03-2017 08:57 PM)tribe_pride Wrote:  That would be a horrible confederation. Top 5 in CONCACAF in rankings and qualifying are all not in CFU. That confederation at least for now would get 1/2 an entry into the World Cup

I bet the true intent of this is to exploit the expansion of the World Cup, and grab 2 World Cup berths for a group of nations that otherwise has little chance of getting any team into the World Cup.

The proposed allocation of slots for an expanded WC has Concacaf and Conmebol getting 6 berths each. Conmebol has 10 nations. Concacaf would also have 10 if the Caribbean nations leave. The CFU pitch to FIFA would be, "C'mon, give us little guys a chance, those 10-nation confederations don't need 6 berths each, take 1 away from each, or take 2 away from Concacaf, and let our 34 nations have some opportunities."
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Well, that brings up this point that came up in my mind, should the U.S. & Mexico leave CONCACAF and join another soccer federation, like CONMEBOL or whatever group Great Britain, Germany, & France play in?
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(04-08-2017 02:53 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Well, that brings up this point that came up in my mind, should the U.S. & Mexico leave CONCACAF and join another soccer federation, like CONMEBOL or whatever group Great Britain, Germany, & France play in?

How would that happen and why would we want to do that? UEFA is all European squads and CONMEBOL is all South American squads. Plus, we should make the World Cup every time in CONCACAF. Not going to happen consistently in the other federations necessarily.
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Merging Concacaf and Conmebol won't happen because this is soccer and each has its own cadre of people that have gotten rich off of their positions within Concacaf or Conmebol. None of these fat cats wants to upset their own gravy train.

But if it could happen -- especially if the Caribbean nations left to form their own weakling association -- then a combined 20-nation "Americas" federation would benefit both North and South American programs.

The national teams of the North American countries would improve from regular competition at a higher level than Concacaf, the South American teams would get more access to the audiences and money in North America, the "Americas" qualifying matches for the World Cup would fill stadiums and generate lots of TV revenue, and there would probably be at least 10 World Cup places (in the expanded World Cup) for the 20 nations to compete for.

And a Champions League among club teams in the "Americas" would be far more entertaining and competitive than Concacaf's Champions League.

But it won't happen.
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(04-08-2017 08:07 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  
(04-08-2017 02:53 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Well, that brings up this point that came up in my mind, should the U.S. & Mexico leave CONCACAF and join another soccer federation, like CONMEBOL or whatever group Great Britain, Germany, & France play in?

How would that happen and why would we want to do that? UEFA is all European squads and CONMEBOL is all South American squads. Plus, we should make the World Cup every time in CONCACAF. Not going to happen consistently in the other federations necessarily.
Don't know how it would happen, but would like for it too. Why? I'm tired of seeing the U.S. lose out to nations like Martinique, Grenada, etc. I would rather compete with the big boys than eliminated by no-names.
Wrong on UEFA. Israel is a member of the UEFA and they are on the continent of Asia, not Europe. I'm fine with Turkey being in the UEFA because Turkey is in both Europe & Asia, so really it's a matter of preference for Turkey as to what league they want to be in. Same with Russia. But Israel is another matter, if you go by strictly European for UEFA. For the record, I'm fine with Israel being in the UEFA; I'm just saying that UEFA is not entirely an European league.

(04-08-2017 12:04 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Merging Concacaf and Conmebol won't happen because this is soccer and each has its own cadre of people that have gotten rich off of their positions within Concacaf or Conmebol. None of these fat cats wants to upset their own gravy train.

But if it could happen -- especially if the Caribbean nations left to form their own weakling association -- then a combined 20-nation "Americas" federation would benefit both North and South American programs.

The national teams of the North American countries would improve from regular competition at a higher level than Concacaf, the South American teams would get more access to the audiences and money in North America, the "Americas" qualifying matches for the World Cup would fill stadiums and generate lots of TV revenue, and there would probably be at least 10 World Cup places (in the expanded World Cup) for the 20 nations to compete for.

And a Champions League among club teams in the "Americas" would be far more entertaining and competitive than Concacaf's Champions League.

But it won't happen.


You're probably right, but then again, you never know. If ESPN saw same value to an Americas' Cup, and talked it up with other North & South American countries' sports networks, it could very well happen.
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I'm for joining any soccer coalition/conference/confederation/league/society that doesn't have the word "football" in it.
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(04-10-2017 11:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  I'm for joining any soccer coalition/conference/confederation/league/society that doesn't have the word "football" in it.

Does Association Football Grind your gears? How bout' Rugby Football, or Gaelic Football, hell even Australian Rules Football? All sports that actually require the use of you to put your foot to the ball...
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(04-11-2017 02:16 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 11:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  I'm for joining any soccer coalition/conference/confederation/league/society that doesn't have the word "football" in it.

Does Association Football Grind your gears? How bout' Rugby Football, or Gaelic Football, hell even Australian Rules Football? All sports that actually require the use of you to put your foot to the ball...

I have no idea what some of those are, and I'm OK w/ the rest. My issue is confined to Americans speaking a non-American dialect of English to try to sound snow flakier.
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(04-11-2017 01:48 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:16 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 11:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  I'm for joining any soccer coalition/conference/confederation/league/society that doesn't have the word "football" in it.

Does Association Football Grind your gears? How bout' Rugby Football, or Gaelic Football, hell even Australian Rules Football? All sports that actually require the use of you to put your foot to the ball...

I have no idea what some of those are, and I'm OK w/ the rest. My issue is confined to Americans speaking a non-American dialect of English to try to sound snow flakier.

Soccer is just slang for association.

Football is just a broad term and doesn't define what discipline. Like the NFL and CFL are part of the Gridiron discipline.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football

Not sure why you let how someone uses a term bother you... or how it sounds snowflakier. If you haven't watched rugby or Aussie rules I'd definitely recommend it.
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