Here's a conference I'm sure Roberta will be attending
Quote:Hizb ut-Tahrir America (HTA) has indicated that it has transitioned from its covert status to a public phase of operations by issuing an announcement, signed in its own name, that it will host a conference in July 2009 to support the establishment of a Caliphate. The promotional video can be viewed on YouTube. The event, titled "The Fall of Capitalism and Rise of Islam," is scheduled for Sunday, July 19th, 2009, at the Aqsa School in Bridgeview, Illinois.
A: Yes. Capitalism is based on the concept that economics is that which examines man's needs, which are unlimited and how to satisfy these unlimited needs. The system depends upon the separation of church and state or in other words, the separation of the Creator from life's affairs. The concept of freedom plays a major role in the Capitalist ideology.
The Islamic economic system is derived from the only source that is capable of satisfying the needs and desires of everyone, without resulting in chaos. The source of these rules is our Creator.
Once Sharia is instituted, they want to 'redistribute the wealth' under the Caliphate. Which of course means turning the entire world into a basket case.
Quote:Simply put, usury puts money from the poor into the hands of the rich, whereas, Zakaat (alms giving in Islam) puts money from the rich into the hands of the poor. THE EXACT OPPOSITE!
Left and Islamist are natural allies, up until the point the islamist then kill off the left(secular humanist) or bondage them into Dhimmitude(slavery)
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2009 09:50 AM by GGniner.)
As you mention the political left will ally w/ Islam, until Islam whacks them.
It also would seem that many Muslims have done well financially in the capitalistic west. Will they give all that up? Was that their plan the entire time? What if they don't want to give up their wealth/comfort?
But it also challenges the secular "moderates": You wanted a system free from Christianity, insisting it could make it on its own b/c all people share the same temporal desires. In the end, that has made many enemies throughout the world, w/ many injustices for them to point to.
(This post was last modified: 06-19-2009 09:52 AM by DrTorch.)
(06-19-2009 09:30 AM)GGniner Wrote: Left and Islamist are natural allies, up until the point the islamist then kill off the left(secular humanist) or bondage them into Dhimmitude(slavery)
There's nothing natural about that alliance, aside from common enemies. But, yes, the outcome is all too predictable for Kaffirs like Robert.
Quote: American diet of everything from food to Coca-Cola to movies and TV culture and whose only role in life is to consume the things produced endlessly by the multinational corporations
So the world's impression of the US comes from Hollywood, the left's most celebrated supporters. They pitch an image that incites the world to hate, then they blame conservatives.
Not that this is new, just some quotes to back it up.
(06-19-2009 02:07 PM)RobertN Wrote: Is there some disease going around that only afflicts radical conservatives? You all seem to be having a problem with reality(ie. my views).
Hehe. Robert can't respond to the actual content, so he (feebly) tries to steer the conversation toward something else.
The basic problem is that you're a ******* unwilling or unable to respond on the same intellectual level as many of the other posters here. I do not have a problem discussing issues with other posters here that hold views similar to yours. It is you.
Quote:“For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation. That is why I am committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.”
GG - - unfortunately, I feel we have lost the reasoning behind Ecclesiastes 3 excerpts: King James Version.
We have come to be a world that is filled with all the things Ecclesiastes spoke of and are out for only what we can get at that very moment and are willing to do anything to have it.
We no longer understand that there are "Certain Times For Things" and these things come in "Their Time, No Ours".
I our rush and haste, we have lost the fundamental basics of how we ALL should live life.
It is one of the most Shameful things we have done to our selves and very few people realize how much it is affecting the entire world at this exact second in time.
The basic problem is that you're a ******* unwilling or unable to respond on the same intellectual level as many of the other posters here. I do not have a problem discussing issues with other posters here that hold views similar to yours. It is you.
Yeah, I know. I asm unwilling to step down to your intellectual level-which is the kindergarten level.
