(03-27-2009 07:55 AM)Scotto Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:58 AM)bigdhl Wrote:  Yeah she's the one. It makes more sense now. I was beginning to think she had been in school since 89.

I see why you're confused. It would indeed be unusual for a UALR student to remain a student for that long.

At asu, that's considered a sophmore.

Wow. You're off and running this morning Scotto.

(03-27-2009 07:10 AM)insideualr Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:58 AM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:01 AM)Robert C Wrote:  

(03-26-2009 11:55 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  I saw them interview a few girls on THV about the team tonight. One girl said she had tried out for the Dance team back in I thought she said 89 but, surely she said 99 but even at that why is that girl still in school? Did anyone else see that interview. Please correct me if I heard that wrong. Hogan was also telling the girls nothing had been decided yet.

It could be this one:
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=81329

Yeah she's the one. It makes more sense now. I was beginning to think she had been in school since 89. :towel:

She took a break to have a family.

That would be like one of us old guys going back to school to join a fraternity.

Actually that would make a lot of sense. We could legally drink now.

(03-27-2009 07:55 AM)Scotto Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:58 AM)bigdhl Wrote:  Yeah she's the one. It makes more sense now. I was beginning to think she had been in school since 89.

I see why you're confused. It would indeed be unusual for a UALR student to remain a student for that long.

At asu, that's considered a sophmore.

Wow! See you are still having a drinking problem.

(03-27-2009 12:08 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  

(03-26-2009 11:55 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  I saw them interview a few girls on THV about the team tonight. One girl said she had tried out for the Dance team back in I thought she said 89 but, surely she said 99 but even at that why is that girl still in school? Did anyone else see that interview. Please correct me if I heard that wrong. Hogan was also telling the girls nothing had been decided yet.

No, you heard right. I don't remember her name but she's something like in her 40's. They made a big deal out of it. Apparently she's the oldest cheerleader in the history of collegiate athletics or something along those lines. She's a pretty decent one, too. I saw the interview. She said that she tried out for the TIM and because she had to wear spandex, it was the most humiliating experience of her entire life.

Gimme a break.

The Trojans in Motion definitely are a little on the sexier side, but it's not like they're strippers. Truly not to sound harsh or anything, because I do hate to see anyone's program taken away, but if our cheerleaders were any good, no one would be entertaining their demise right now.

Also the report said the decision, while not official, was NOT about money.

Click on link below for Fox 16 report:
Fox 16 Report

(03-27-2009 10:39 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:08 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  

(03-26-2009 11:55 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  I saw them interview a few girls on THV about the team tonight. One girl said she had tried out for the Dance team back in I thought she said 89 but, surely she said 99 but even at that why is that girl still in school? Did anyone else see that interview. Please correct me if I heard that wrong. Hogan was also telling the girls nothing had been decided yet.

No, you heard right. I don't remember her name but she's something like in her 40's. They made a big deal out of it. Apparently she's the oldest cheerleader in the history of collegiate athletics or something along those lines. She's a pretty decent one, too. I saw the interview. She said that she tried out for the TIM and because she had to wear spandex, it was the most humiliating experience of her entire life.

Gimme a break.

The Trojans in Motion definitely are a little on the sexier side, but it's not like they're strippers. Truly not to sound harsh or anything, because I do hate to see anyone's program taken away, but if our cheerleaders were any good, no one would be entertaining their demise right now.

Also the report said the decision, while not official, was NOT about money.

Click on link below for Fox 16 report:
Fox 16 Report

Not the best publicity for the athletic program. Changes may well have been needed. Probably could have been handled somewhat more tactfully.

(03-27-2009 12:08 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  

(03-26-2009 11:55 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  I saw them interview a few girls on THV about the team tonight. One girl said she had tried out for the Dance team back in I thought she said 89 but, surely she said 99 but even at that why is that girl still in school? Did anyone else see that interview. Please correct me if I heard that wrong. Hogan was also telling the girls nothing had been decided yet.

No, you heard right. I don't remember her name but she's something like in her 40's. They made a big deal out of it. Apparently she's the oldest cheerleader in the history of collegiate athletics or something along those lines. She's a pretty decent one, too. I saw the interview. She said that she tried out for the TIM and because she had to wear spandex, it was the most humiliating experience of her entire life.

Gimme a break.

The Trojans in Motion definitely are a little on the sexier side, but it's not like they're strippers. Truly not to sound harsh or anything, because I do hate to see anyone's program taken away, but if our cheerleaders were any good, no one would be entertaining their demise right now.
Also the report said the decision, while not official, was NOT about money.

They might not be All-Americans, but compared to when they were resurrected, they've come a long way, and they aren't bad in my opinion. I agree that they need to try out together with boys as a partner, and they'd be better. I hope we keep them, and bring back the TIM too.

As far as them not firing up the crowd, a team of beautiful naked cheerleaders out there couldn't fire up our crowd. Too many old fans, and not enough young ones who a naked cheerleader could fire up.

(03-27-2009 11:51 AM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 10:39 AM)LR Alum Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 12:08 AM)eh9198 Wrote:  

(03-26-2009 11:55 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  I saw them interview a few girls on THV about the team tonight. One girl said she had tried out for the Dance team back in I thought she said 89 but, surely she said 99 but even at that why is that girl still in school? Did anyone else see that interview. Please correct me if I heard that wrong. Hogan was also telling the girls nothing had been decided yet.

No, you heard right. I don't remember her name but she's something like in her 40's. They made a big deal out of it. Apparently she's the oldest cheerleader in the history of collegiate athletics or something along those lines. She's a pretty decent one, too. I saw the interview. She said that she tried out for the TIM and because she had to wear spandex, it was the most humiliating experience of her entire life.

Gimme a break.

The Trojans in Motion definitely are a little on the sexier side, but it's not like they're strippers. Truly not to sound harsh or anything, because I do hate to see anyone's program taken away, but if our cheerleaders were any good, no one would be entertaining their demise right now.

Also the report said the decision, while not official, was NOT about money.

Click on link below for Fox 16 report:
Fox 16 Report

Not the best publicity for the athletic program. Changes may well have been needed. Probably could have been handled somewhat more tactfully.

And they might spend more time on how to take a mediocre men's basketball program, and turn it into a program that can win a conference tournament and increase our fan base. They've fired all the assistants, and hired more, and that hasn't done the job. What's left? Maybe they've been looking at the wrong slot.

They've fired all the assistants, and hired more, and that hasn't done the job. What's left? Maybe they've been looking at the wrong slot.

Let's give them at least 1 more year to see if the staff changes do any good. Then we can better evaluate.

Here is a reply from Stan on this:

My email isn't as colorful as Ron's!
(Thanks, Ron, for caring about the program! )

FIU actually has cheer AND dance. (http://www.fiusports.com). Most colleges have both programs because they serve 2 very different purposes. Cheerleaders grow up training stunts and tumbling; dancers study different styles of dance. Having both also involves more students AND keeps our crazy kids out of trouble!

Even in our state, many of the colleges have multiple spirit teams:
ASU - 2 cheer teams and 1 dance team
UCA - 2 cheer teams and 1 dance team.
U of A - 2 cheer teams and 2 dance teams.
UAPB, ATU, and UAFS all have 1 cheer and 1 dance team.

Kerry, I'm sorry you were disappointed in the team's ability this year. It definitely had challenges.
1. We had several injuries - and no alternates.
2. You mentioned 6 guys-6 girls. We have tried that in the past could never keep that many guys on board.
3. My kids were made to dance, and they aren't dancers. It'd be like asking the Trojans in Motion to build a pyramid.
4. The rules for college cheerleading on the wood floor are more strict than junior high rules.

Like Ron said, we are very proud to be currently ranked 6th in the nation, but you guys never got to see any of our fancy skills - because of the wood floor. You may see our nationals performance on Youtube - just search "UALR Cheer." Here's the top 6 (there were 20 teams total): 1. Louisville, 2. Southern Methodist, 3. Clemson, 4. Oklahoma State, 5. University of TX at Arlington, and 6. UALR!

I agree with Ron. I think getting rid of the band and/or cheer is stepping away from providing UALR students with a sense of campus life. I think it will also affect crowd participation at games. Just as cheerleaders aren't trained to dance, dancers aren't trained to lead cheers.

Last thing... I am also concerned about a fall tryout for either type team. Only the super-small colleges in the state have fall tryouts (Philandersmith and Hendrix for instance). I've coached cheerleading in AR for 21 years, and I'm afraid most talented cheerleaders (or dancers) will be turned off by the fall tryout and seek another program.

I've had a blast coaching at UALR, and I'll miss it! Like Ron says, GO TROJANS GO!!!!

Stan Tabor
University of Arkansas at Little Rock Cheerleaders
http://www.UALRcheer.com



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Re: No more cheerleaders ?????????? Maybe, maybe not !!



I like the idea of doing away with the pep band and the cheerleaders. We tend to play canned music at the time outs that just leaves the pep band watching. I would not want to put in the time to be in the band to have canned music played most of the time. So, no pep band means we need to get rid of the cheer leaders and get a dance team like FIU. The dance team will have no problem dancing to canned music.

The truth be told, the cheer leaders were really bad. If we are going to have cheer leaders do it right. Get 6 guys that can lift and 6 girls that can stunt. If we can do that, don't have them. We can find 8 or 9 girls that are easy on the eyes that can dance, imo.


Kerry