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E) DUI

He just wasn't an important part of the team (I'm only joking)
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02-05-2009 03:18 PM
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You don't need crimes or bad grades to get kicked off a team. Probably the most common reason on every team is that you repeatedly don't do what the coach wants you to do. A team can absolutely not tolerate that kind of player, even if he's a boy scout, says please and thank you, yes sir, no m'am and has a 4.00 (or 4.50) GPA.
02-05-2009 03:34 PM
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(02-05-2009 03:34 PM)axeme Wrote:  You don't need crimes or bad grades to get kicked off a team. Probably the most common reason on every team is that you repeatedly don't do what the coach wants you to do. A team can absolutely not tolerate that kind of player, even if he's a boy scout, says please and thank you, yes sir, no m'am and has a 4.00 (or 4.50) GPA.

I don't buy that one. By the time you're in the middle of your sr year you know what you have as far as attitude and listening to the coaches. Plus with the APR and potential negative impact on future schollies schools will want to ensure kids stay and graduate. He has a much higher likelihood not hurting us from an APR standpoint on the team. Plus its not like we were the perfect team where he couldnt have contributed in some capacity.
02-05-2009 03:42 PM
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I'm sure the coaches are all very well aware of all the consequences, and yet he's gone. I think that tells the story. They obviously think that the team is better off without him. Frankly, we have been better and have played a tighter team game since he left. Whether that is due to his departure or not, I can't really say.
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RE: NEW PLAYER?
(02-05-2009 02:58 PM)Kent 76 Wrote:  GFlash68, I just posted something similar in another thread. I think Greene can be a really quality player inside down the road. It is not unusal for a true freshman to need to bulk up in the weight room. Look at Trevor Huffman's build as a frosh then as a senior, just to name one player. Oh, and John Whorton's, also.


I for one really like Greene, he always seems to around the ball when it comes to rebounding, something this team needs, and he likes to mix it up underneath. His footwork on offense could use some work, but he is only a freshmen so Sendy will get that straightened out. He looks very coachable and seems to have a good attitude.
02-05-2009 04:46 PM
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(02-05-2009 03:12 PM)ksu315 Wrote:  I'll keep the long thread going. Since a DUI only gets you 1 game what did Woods do to get suspended this long:

a) Drug possession or distribution
b) Altercation with a teammate or coach
c) Domestic violence on a female
d) Academics

I have close knowledge of the situation, but believe strongly that it is not my place to share the information. That is up to the player, the coaches, or Laing Kennedy (or Dave or Steve if the coaches, university, etc. shares). All I'm willing to say is that the situation had nothing to do with academics or breaking any laws (or anything close to those areas). The only reason I share this much is that I believe in this case speculation in negative areas is not fair to Rashad or the program given they were not involved.
02-05-2009 05:05 PM
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(02-05-2009 11:06 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  
(02-05-2009 07:19 AM)flashfever Wrote:  
(02-03-2009 10:24 AM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(02-03-2009 10:18 AM)Kent 76 Wrote:  David, for what it's worth, I completely understand what you're saying. When I posted much earlier about wanting some more freshman, I'd forgotten about the junior from Cincinnati. As previously stated, Holt is a good recruit and so is Johnson, if he qualifies. So, that is a good start. Greene looks promising. I think the ideal would be having quality freshman recruits as the base, with a few JUCO's and transfers being the icing on the cake. So, with Greene (who knows about Grimsley?) this year, Holt, and maybe Johnson, next, and the Cincinnati recruit the year after that, it is a promising start.

I agree with you completely. I think it is a promising start.
I honestly don't understand how you all can say Greene looks promising. he is worst then BP as a frshmen he is 6'7'' slow, not athletic not tryin to be cruel to him but its just how i feel. i don't see us being good if he has to play more then 10 minutes a game.

Could not disagree MORE. He is now getting meaningful minutes. He is a character kid and I like that. He is deceptively handy around the basket. He will be in the weight room during off season and will at some time add 25 pounds of muscle. This is the way you build a successful program at the mid major level. He will mostly likely be 6'8" in several years. Get used to him, for he is in our long term plans. And, better yet, we will win with him. He has the attitude and he is coachable. Need I say more, over and out.

(02-05-2009 02:58 PM)Kent 76 Wrote:  GFlash68, I just posted something similar in another thread. I think Greene can be a really quality player inside down the road. It is not unusal for a true freshman to need to bulk up in the weight room. Look at Trevor Huffman's build as a frosh then as a senior, just to name one player. Oh, and John Whorton's, also.

(02-05-2009 04:46 PM)luckyflash Wrote:  
(02-05-2009 02:58 PM)Kent 76 Wrote:  GFlash68, I just posted something similar in another thread. I think Greene can be a really quality player inside down the road. It is not unusal for a true freshman to need to bulk up in the weight room. Look at Trevor Huffman's build as a frosh then as a senior, just to name one player. Oh, and John Whorton's, also.


I for one really like Greene, he always seems to around the ball when it comes to rebounding, something this team needs, and he likes to mix it up underneath. His footwork on offense could use some work, but he is only a freshmen so Sendy will get that straightened out. He looks very coachable and seems to have a good attitude.
Maybe im wrong guys. I hope that i am, but i really don't see it. what i see is similiar to the type of player julian is,he has saavy, and basketball IQ but he can only be so sucessul with his short comings. I think if he puts on weight in the weight room he still will be slow, and have bad feet, and an easy player to exploit. Most players with his athletic abilities is good shooters like Kevin Warzinski. With all of that said i would love for this kid to prove me wrong, but i doubt it. i think he will be recruited over and barely play. thats how i feel i kind of feel bad saying it!
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RE: NEW PLAYER?
(02-05-2009 02:58 PM)Kent 76 Wrote:  GFlash68, I just posted something similar in another thread. I think Greene can be a really quality player inside down the road. It is not unusal for a true freshman to need to bulk up in the weight room. Look at Trevor Huffman's build as a frosh then as a senior, just to name one player. Oh, and John Whorton's, also.
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02-05-2009 05:13 PM
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Well, Bill Livingston of the PD said on more than one occasion that he looked like a boxer. He almost looks TOO pumped up there.
02-05-2009 05:49 PM
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RE: NEW PLAYER?
(02-05-2009 05:05 PM)KSUDelt828 Wrote:  
(02-05-2009 03:12 PM)ksu315 Wrote:  I'll keep the long thread going. Since a DUI only gets you 1 game what did Woods do to get suspended this long:

a) Drug possession or distribution
b) Altercation with a teammate or coach
c) Domestic violence on a female
d) Academics

I have close knowledge of the situation, but believe strongly that it is not my place to share the information. That is up to the player, the coaches, or Laing Kennedy (or Dave or Steve if the coaches, university, etc. shares). All I'm willing to say is that the situation had nothing to do with academics or breaking any laws (or anything close to those areas). The only reason I share this much is that I believe in this case speculation in negative areas is not fair to Rashad or the program given they were not involved.

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02-05-2009 08:50 PM
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RE: NEW PLAYER?
i MISS WOOD. i DONT KNOW WHY FORD DONT UNDURSTED HIM ON TEAM AGIAN.
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RE: NEW PLAYER?
Even if he is only as good as Sullinger he can turn into a solid big of the bench for 12-15 minutes a game (maybe 20 when someone is in foul trouble). That's not all bad.
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(02-06-2009 06:17 PM)burden Wrote:  Even if he is only as good as Sullinger he can turn into a solid big of the bench for 12-15 minutes a game (maybe 20 when someone is in foul trouble). That's not all bad.

Woods had a bad attitude. Everyone could see that. You can't have a guy like that on your team and now KSU doesn't.
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The good old fashioned addition by subtraction.
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Someone snuck in on me. I was talking about Greene not Woods. I agree on Woods. Good riddence.
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