The good: Our over-matched boys fought hard, kept it interesting until the last few minutes. Nice effort

The bad: Getting outrebounded 41-26 on your home floor is, well, bad.

The ugly: a paltry 4200 fans came out to see a ranked, brand-name Big East opponent.

USF continues to prove that it's basketball program -which includes fan support - isn't Big East quality. More like Sun Belt quality.

Well whats new? If you are REALLy a USF fan then none of the above should had been a surprise.
1. we have no inside game and lost for the season our most physical inside player.
2. USF will not draw better than 4k until it starts to WIN.
3. We are geting better in talent with Jones and Gilchrist and our team plays hard/
4. If we played Sun Belt level ball we wouldnt have been as close in this or other Big East games.

It will take time for Heath to build a team that can win in Big East. But I guess we will have you posting the same crap after EVERY loss this year. USF will not be favorite in most if not all Big East games left this season it is what it is.

(01-24-2009 09:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Well whats new? If you are REALLy a USF fan then none of the above should had been a surprise.

dude .. that's the freaking PROBLEM. Our program has been stuck in this rut FOREVER.

(01-25-2009 09:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-24-2009 09:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Well whats new? If you are REALLy a USF fan then none of the above should had been a surprise.

dude .. that's the freaking PROBLEM. Our program has been stuck in this rut FOREVER.

Yes and it will take MORE than a couple of years to get over it. Im glad you realize that we have stunk it up for years and become insignificant in basketball not only nationally but in our home town. Now we are in the Big East which is a double edge sword, yes we get more exposure by being in the best league but we also have to play those great teams and get our heads bashed in by them. Lets see what Heath does with four years of recruiting, our fans will not return until they think that we can sniff an NIT bid. It will happen but it will not happen overnight or if USF starts switching coaches every two years.
Florida is NOT a basketball state and even if we are winning dont expect mpre than 8k per game. Look at FSU,UM and even UF with its NC titles and compare heir atendance #s.

(01-25-2009 09:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-25-2009 09:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-24-2009 09:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Well whats new? If you are REALLy a USF fan then none of the above should had been a surprise.

dude .. that's the freaking PROBLEM. Our program has been stuck in this rut FOREVER.

Yes and it will take MORE than a couple of years to get over it. Im glad you realize that we have stunk it up for years and become insignificant in basketball not only nationally but in our home town. Now we are in the Big East which is a double edge sword, yes we get more exposure by being in the best league but we also have to play those great teams and get our heads bashed in by them. Lets see what Heath does with four years of recruiting, our fans will not return until they think that we can sniff an NIT bid. It will happen but it will not happen overnight or if USF starts switching coaches every two years.

Florida is NOT a basketball state and even if we are winning dont expect mpre than 8k per game. Look at FSU,UM and even UF with its NC titles and compare heir atendance #s.

FSU's numbers are up this year because they are winning (plus hosted UF), but yes, historically, FSU usually plays to an half empty building (or worse) and while UF doesn't sell out most of its non-conf games, UF does sellout most of their SEC home games (i.e. 12,000).

Heck, even Miami, a very good ACC team, struggles to draw fans in their still in their on-campus arena.

Earlier this week, FSU (14-4 at the time) played at Miami (14-3), and only 6,900 fans showed up to see that game vs two good teams this year.

Football is definitely KING in FLA, especially college, but there is some pretty good college basketball played at several places this year in FLA yet many folks still don't bother to show up (including UCF) outside big games.

Economy can have something to do with it as it might hit those programs that historically struggle to draw fans obviously might find it even harder to draw in fans this year, even if they are winning.

Solid hoop programs will almost always play to packed houses...as most tickets are gone months before the season starts.

If it's any consolation, I believe that USF is definitely not at the bottom of the league as the were picked by the coaches. I believe that Rutgers is at the preceded by St. John's and Seton Hall (and yes, I know that St. John's has beaten Notre Dame). USF has played some really close games against the league's top teams and with more experience will soon begin to take some of those games. I don't think the future is bleak. As someone mentioned before, they are the only BE team in the south and can sell the Big East name as well as the Florida weather.