This program has not beaten any top 100 teams this year. Best win is Albany which is 107 pri. 4 of 8 wins are against 200 rpi and above. They are not competivtive in the Big East. Perhaps a move to Horizon league would be better for this program which has become a bottom feeder with St John's and Seton Hall in BE hoops. Atleast Cincinnati, South Florida and Rutgers can say they are successfull in football in the Big East. Depaul on the other hand is losing to Morgan State and alike on a yearly basis. They cash a Big East check and get on TV, but NCAA tournament is no longer a viable option for this once storied program. They haven't done much since joining the Big East. No longer a top 100 program. Depaul addition was a mistake as they were in decline even in CUSA. Depaul should move to the Horizon or MVC where they have a legit chance of competing. BE could then re-add BC which would strengthen football and provide better hoops that what Depaul has delivered.

Thanks for letting us know. BC is not coming back to the Big East, and DePaul will not go anywhere as long as the conference doesn't split.

Every conference needs a doormat...

Didn't DePaul go to the NCAA tourny two or three seasons ago?

It hasn't been all that long ago. But I can't remember when...

DePaul went about five years ago when they were in C-USA. Saw them live in Buffalo for their appearance. Drake Diener, brother of Marquette's Travis Diener, was on the team and I thought was their best player. Beat Dayton in an ugly 2OT game where neither team could make a free throw, then they got smoked by eventual national champion Connecticut in the 2nd round.

I think Dave Leitao, the HC for the Blue Demons, left after their tourney to take the top job at Virginia.

For a school that depends on basketball, the consequences of not making the NCAA tournament are huge. St John's, Seton Hall and Providence once made final fours. Now they don't even reach the Big East quarter finals. Depaul has slide in mediocrity. The gap in the Big East gets wider East year. The top 6 teams the Big East are national title contenders every year. That bottom four of the Big East don't make any postseason. Look at St John's who has hit hard times. Its very hard for programs to get back to that level once they start losing for several years and fail to make the NCAA tournament year after year. Cincinnati is also trying to stay in the top of college basketball, but they are sliding too after a few years without an NCAA berth. In the Big East you need to recruit at a very high level or you get destroyed. Right now Depaul isn't getting the players they once did. These conferences changes don't always work out for some schools. For Martquette, the move to the Big East was great. For Depaul its been a flop so far.

No prob, DePaul just needs a new coach. How's Leitao(sp) doing at UVA, btw? Seems to be struggling a bit, could be wrong...

DePaul does a whole lot better as a mid-level or bottom-tier school in the Big East than it would as a top dog in the Horizon League or any other suggested destination. Conference affiliation is about a lot more than men's basketball. How is DePaul's women's basketball or women's softball or men's soccer or men's track and field team doing in the Big East? What does being affiliated with the nation's best Catholic and Jesuit universities do for DePaul's academic image? How much money is DePaul making because of its move to the Big East as opposed to how much money the school would be losing if it were in some other league? In a 16-team conference, it is simply a mathematical impossibility for every team to be on top, and success will be cyclical for quite a few of them. At some point in the future, DePaul will have one of the leading men's basketball teams in the Big East assuming the league stays intact, and then people will snidely pick on whatever program stumbles in their stead instead.

DePaul has been largely irrelevant nationally since the early '80s. Don't look for them to be in the Big East upper echelon anytime soon. They've proven to be a stepping stone job (Leito leaving for UVA for example).

(01-28-2009 04:25 PM)Krocker Krapp Wrote:  DePaul does a whole lot better as a mid-level or bottom-tier school in the Big East than it would as a top dog in the Horizon League or any other suggested destination.

Of course they do. All parasites are better off firmly attached to their benumbed host.

(01-29-2009 11:27 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  Of course they do. All parasites are better off firmly attached to their benumbed host.

I hear you...this parasite at least helps cement a few TV viewers in Chicago though.

One thing to keep in mind, there is always going to be somebody at the bottom. If you dump depaul or seton hall or team'x" one of the current teams will take their place on the bottom of the league and be the doormat. Would bringing in someone like memphis cause more teams to rotate in and out of the top of the BE or would it force a team that is currently in the middle of the pack to the bottom?
Having 1a FB dosent mean you'll be better able to recruit for BB. What Im trying to say is that even if the BE was a 9 team all sport league, I'm sure some would be finding fault with teams like rutgers and USF that havent seen the same success on the court as some of the other teams.Would that be justification for calling to have them "replaced" ?

DePaul to retain Wainwright

Also mentions he has an extension through the 2012 season that was apparently signed in 2007.

DePaul fans are not pleased...

Multiple threads expressing outrage

Cincinnati is doing just fine. In Mick's third year we now have had two straight top 25 recruiting classes. We have a transfer former starter at 6'11" waiting for next Dec from Okl St. We have no seniors if Mike Williams gets another year. We have won 14 games already with the 29th hardest schedule to date. We have no bad losses to anyone over an RPI of like 60. A top 25 win, a road win at UNLV and a neutral win over Miss ST. We went to the CBI last year and it looks like at least the NIT this year. Mick is doing it the right way with only one JC player on the roster. He has done an amazing job taking over with what was left him after the HUggs situation. You will see a very good team when Cashmeere Wright hits the floor after being injured this season leaving UC without a true point. They have depth, size, and soon experience to compete in the upper half of the Big East. Oh yea Mick already has the #1 player in Ohio commited in his soph year.