Quote:Posted by Shawn Mallow
Published: January 15, 2009 - 10:37 AM
I don't want Obama to succeed.
There. I said it.
I didn't vote for him. I don't like him, who his mentors were, his political ideals, his policy ideas, his Clintonite picks, his views on Guantanamo, his views on abortion, or his pseudo-socialist-spread-the-wealth-trickle-up, tax-the-corporations-out-of-the-country economic ideas, or most anything else he campaigned on.
Does that mean I want another terrorist attack? Or I wish him harm? Or I want the country to fail?
No, it doesn't. It also doesn't mean that I hate him like all the BDS freaks do Bush.
The left's hatred for George W. Bush started even before he was inaugurated in 2000. Not because of what he stood for, but, because of their determination that he stole the election. That hatred grew to levels never before seen in modern political history (not even Nixon), and will continue long after he's gone.
Obama supporters say to just "give him a chance". And I say "To hell with that!"
I hope he fails miserably in his overall "ambitions" for this country. I do not believe that success for a President always means success for the country.
I believe in Conservative principles. I believe those principles are what's best for this country. Why, then, would I want Obama to "succeed" at things with which I profoundly disagree?
I do not believe in compromise when it comes to ideology. When you compromise your core beliefs just to get something done, you give up some part of those beliefs. I don't want to compromise with a radical, leftist ideology. I want to beat the hell out of it, because I believe it is a wrong and dangerous road to pursue.
Some, many of the leftists on this site, proclaim Conservatism to be "dead". They would do well to remember that 20 of the last 28 years we've had a Republican in the Presidency. And from 1994 to 2006, Republicans controlled congress.
That said, Republicans screwed themselves for the last 8 years. They've become so entrenched in their positions, turning a tin ear to their constituents, that they have forgotten how to view things through the Conservative prism which helped them to get there in the first place. Painful lessons, indeed. But, hopefully learned, never the less.
Under the "leadership" of the San Francisco Creep and the Mortician, the Democratic congress, thankfully, hasn't gotten much of their deviant agenda passed for the last two years. And with Congressional approval ratings in the single digits, that majority isn't going to be around much longer.
Obama's made many promises. He's already backpedaling on some. The left expects some payback. He'll have to come through on those promises, or the curtain will quickly be pulled back on this modern-day Wizard of Oz. If he doesn't, it may be a very short 4 years.
Recapping what I said during the election, now that the democrats have nearly absolute power.
What the economy will look like
10%+ Unemployment rate by the end of 2010.
10%+ Interest rates by the end of 2012.
10%+ Inflation rates by the end of 2012.
The democrats economic policies will be poison for this country. Don't get me started on how their domestic policies will further screw things up and ultimately lead to higher crime rates and poorer performing public schools. Don't mention their weak approach to national defense and anti-terrorism.
Quote:Posted by Shawn Mallow
Published: January 15, 2009 - 10:37 AM
I don't want Obama to succeed.
There. I said it.
I didn't vote for him. I don't like him, who his mentors were, his political ideals, his policy ideas, his Clintonite picks, his views on Guantanamo, his views on abortion, or his pseudo-socialist-spread-the-wealth-trickle-up, tax-the-corporations-out-of-the-country economic ideas, or most anything else he campaigned on.
Does that mean I want another terrorist attack? Or I wish him harm? Or I want the country to fail?
No, it doesn't. It also doesn't mean that I hate him like all the BDS freaks do Bush.
The left's hatred for George W. Bush started even before he was inaugurated in 2000. Not because of what he stood for, but, because of their determination that he stole the election. That hatred grew to levels never before seen in modern political history (not even Nixon), and will continue long after he's gone.
Obama supporters say to just "give him a chance". And I say "To hell with that!"
I hope he fails miserably in his overall "ambitions" for this country. I do not believe that success for a President always means success for the country.
I believe in Conservative principles. I believe those principles are what's best for this country. Why, then, would I want Obama to "succeed" at things with which I profoundly disagree?
I do not believe in compromise when it comes to ideology. When you compromise your core beliefs just to get something done, you give up some part of those beliefs. I don't want to compromise with a radical, leftist ideology. I want to beat the hell out of it, because I believe it is a wrong and dangerous road to pursue.
Some, many of the leftists on this site, proclaim Conservatism to be "dead". They would do well to remember that 20 of the last 28 years we've had a Republican in the Presidency. And from 1994 to 2006, Republicans controlled congress.
That said, Republicans screwed themselves for the last 8 years. They've become so entrenched in their positions, turning a tin ear to their constituents, that they have forgotten how to view things through the Conservative prism which helped them to get there in the first place. Painful lessons, indeed. But, hopefully learned, never the less.
Under the "leadership" of the San Francisco Creep and the Mortician, the Democratic congress, thankfully, hasn't gotten much of their deviant agenda passed for the last two years. And with Congressional approval ratings in the single digits, that majority isn't going to be around much longer.
Obama's made many promises. He's already backpedaling on some. The left expects some payback. He'll have to come through on those promises, or the curtain will quickly be pulled back on this modern-day Wizard of Oz. If he doesn't, it may be a very short 4 years.
Recapping what I said during the election, now that the democrats have nearly absolute power.
What the economy will look like
10%+ Unemployment rate by the end of 2010.
10%+ Interest rates by the end of 2012.
10%+ Inflation rates by the end of 2012.
The democrats economic policies will be poison for this country. Don't get me started on how their domestic policies will further screw things up and ultimately lead to higher crime rates and poorer performing public schools. Don't mention their weak approach to national defense and anti-terrorism.
Hmm. What a surprise. The Repugs leave the country in ruin(and getting worse) but blame the democrats for a crappy economy that they created.
(01-18-2009 02:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: Many blacks are buying up Obama memorabilia for their collections, and to pass on to their children, to show them that a black can have the American dream too. If you aren't aware of that, I'm not surprised. But it is rather surprising that you 2 guys don't realize this one fact. There is a great amount of interest among the minority population in this country. The fact that you have no interest is irrelevant.
But I see no reason to stomp on others' parade, especially when there are so many commercials that are much worse that we could be watching...
So Steve - - we have been admonished and have been found to be "irrelevant" !!!!!
I am not going to get into a pissing match with you over the "Race Card" and he is HALF WHITE just in CASE"YOU"DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ..... DUH DUH
This is as Stupid as those frekkin gimmicks that were supposed to help you "Get Better Gas Mileage" if you just connected them to your car .... it is a foolish waste and a sham.
If some poor little Black Kid needs an Obambi Commemorative Half Dollar with Obambi's Face painted on it to Raise His Hopes, then his life isn't worth squat in the first place and no Cheap Trinket Junk is going to heal that.
And since you are so "Informed" and are spouting off at me like I am a Super Racist .... maybe you can ANSWER WHAT NO ONE ELSE CAN ....
WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE TO ACQUIRE THIS KIND OF CELEBRITY ??????
Please feel free to use all the space you need for you answer .....
And don't insult by using his Election Win .... that will be supercilious and superfluous at it's most minuscule level .....
40+ Men have already beat Obama to this punch and all were Mixed Blood Humans .... please don't paint the Man Black for a Sound Bite - - he is NOT JUST BLACK the same way I am not a Pure Blood United States Citizen .....
And since you seem to want to be the Obama Social Expert here:
Can you tell us why you don’t push for a Bobby Jindal Commemorative Trinket Set ?????
I think Jundal's Governor win in Louisiana is much more Socially Important and Impacting than a guy who NEVER SHOWED UP FOR WORK'S Impact …. and Jindal is 100% Pure Asian Indian .... WOW huh ???
But you are the EXPERT (you do know what an Expert is don't cha ???)
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Trip, you're right in that most people don't even consider Obama's white half - with the exception of Biden who said he's not black enough. And when a black dude gets $10,000,000 a year, or more, to hit a baseball and can't even speak proper English then I'd have to say he went well beyond the American dream.
And, Trip, it's totally believable that the Obamites would buy all his crap, after all, they also bought every promise that came out his mouth. If there's one TV product that should sell well it would be those Sham Wow towels, after all, we're going to need something to soak up our tears during the next 4 years.
(01-18-2009 07:47 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: Anyone who is half white is considered non-white (i.e. not white at all) by most white folks Tripster. Or did that memo miss you?
(01-18-2009 08:54 PM)sarcoog2010 Wrote: The same repubs that wanted people to unconditionally respect and support Dubya... won't give the same respect to Obama. I wish I was surprised.
I respect Obama, hell, he's our president and he's an intelligent man. Would you criticize me if I support him exactly the same way Pelosi and her fellow democrats supported Bush? My dad used to tell me I had to give respect to get respect.
I want to see the US succeed. That's where my loyalty lies, not to any particular individual.
If Obama's policies would help the US succeed, then I want to see him succeed in implementing them.
If Obama's policies would harm the US's ability to succeed, then I want to see him fail to implement them.
I am much more concerned about whether the US succeeds or fails than I am about whether Obama--or Shrub, or any other individual occupying the white house--succeeds in implementing his agenda. I do believe that Obama's policies would harm the US's ability to succeed.
I respect the US, and I respect the office of the presidency. Whether or not I affect the individual occupying that office depends upon that individual.
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2009 10:41 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
They do admit that their ideology was wrong on military issues, foreign affairs, infrastructure, and economy? No kidding, see US National Election 2008.
(01-18-2009 10:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I want to see the US succeed. That's where my loyalty lies, not to any particular individual.
If Obama's policies would help the US succeed, then I want to see him succeed in implementing them.
If Obama's policies would harm the US's ability to succeed, then I want to see him fail to implement them.
I am much more concerned about whether the US succeeds or fails than I am about whether Obama--or Shrub, or any other individual occupying the white house--succeeds in implementing his agenda. I do believe that Obama's policies would harm the US's ability to succeed.
I respect the US, and I respect the office of the presidency. Whether or not I affect the individual occupying that office depends upon that individual.
I agree...Regardless of which gang is in charge, my first concern is prosperity of my family and neighbors. If he can impart any positive movement in the direction of prosperity...then he has my well wishes.
(01-18-2009 07:47 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: Anyone who is half white is considered non-white (i.e. not white at all) by most white folks Tripster. Or did that memo miss you?
NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!! Evidently you ate the Memo Joe ....
They are allowed to "Enter Race" on what ever application or paperwork they are submitting, but the Application Taking Entity plays it down like it is a Red Hot Poker - - scared they will hurt someones feelings they are (a little Yoda there)
To Wit: ..... "If you please would, enter here if you are a Race of Human .... Now this is only if you want too and we won't say anything if you don't because we don't want to hurt your feelings and if you are a Blond Haired Blue Eyed White Guy named Enema Enema (Marshall Mathers) and you believe you are Black, then you can list that you are Black Mr. Enema Enema because we are PC and unless you are a Rich White Racist Power Hungry The Man and the Establishment you don't have to list your Race as that would be Un-PC and it may hurt your feelings to admit you are a Black Person because you may not realize you are Black and if we drop the ball here and cause you to have a seizure or heart attack when you realize you are Black well we may get sued and stuff so don't list it if you don't want too and please accept our apologies on the subject as we are not Racist mean people and stuff and if you are Black and wish you were White (Michael Jackson) well we don't know which way the Sun is shining and we want to continue to get Federal Dollars and we need you to cooperate and stuff .. please, will ya, huh, be a sport, pretty please with some sugar on top".
Obambi can be several different People because HE IS SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE ....
It all depended on what College or Job (LOL Job) he was applying to/for as to what Ethnic Background the dude listed on his paperwork.
"All Non-White Citizens are Considered Non-White" ..... geeze 'um freggin petes man ????
My wife is between a 1/4 and 1/3rd Choctaw Indian - - she ain't scalped me yet and I guess she is a Felon - - she, not by any Malice, always list her self as White .... SHE IS A RACIST INDIAN HATING PIG !!!!!!!!!!! Divorce is now inevitable !!!!!
My Stars - - From what part of Mars did you say you hailed ???? (don't answer that as it may cause you to have seizures)
What Utter Pig Fodder ..... or Udder Cow Manure (a little Farm Lingo there for the Willie Nelson in all of us).
During the era of slavery, any child born of a slave, even if it was one of massah's children, automatically became a slave. They weren't half-slaves. They were full slaves. Nearly every black in the U.S. has white blood in them, unless their family immigrated recently. There are no full blacks any longer in America, unless they're from Africa.
All your arguments are irrelevant in the face of reality. But you're too blind to see it...
(01-19-2009 02:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: During the era of slavery, any child born of a slave, even if it was one of massah's children, automatically became a slave. They weren't half-slaves. They were full slaves. Nearly every black in the U.S. has white blood in them, unless their family immigrated recently. There are no full blacks any longer in America, unless they're from Africa.
All your arguments are irrelevant in the face of reality. But you're too blind to see it...
Yeah, too blind.
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2009 04:12 PM by DrTorch.)
(01-19-2009 02:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: During the era of slavery, any child born of a slave, even if it was one of massah's children, automatically became a slave. They weren't half-slaves. They were full slaves. Nearly every black in the U.S. has white blood in them, unless their family immigrated recently. There are no full blacks any longer in America, unless they're from Africa.
All your arguments are irrelevantirrelevantirrelevantirrelevantirrelevantirrelevantirrelevantirrelevant in the face of reality. But you're too blind to see it...
Take a listen:
WTF does being a "Half Slave" have to do with being Mixed Race ??????
The term "Slave" is the exact same term as the word "Toaster" in ANY Context ..... it is a Name and a Name Only ...
Dropping Paoti into your Kool Aid these days hummmmm ????
That is like saying Rosie O'Donnell is "Half Gay" ..... that is a "TITLE" based on Life Style be it Slave or Fairy, not a Testament to a Blood Line, Ethnic Group, or a Heritage issue.
And I see you love the word "irrelevant" - - makes all the Boogie Men go away huh ???
I am a direct Irish Decedent - - yet I have a little German in me - - my Great Grandfather spoke fluent German when he walked off the boat in New York - -
So .... using the "Half Slave Quantitative Method", am I half a Kraut or half a Mick or am I just a Really Good Looking and Smart Guy ????
An "ENTIRE County in Ireland bears by Family Name" and is one of the most known Counties in all of Ireland - - I mean I am just asking ya know.
(01-19-2009 02:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: During the era of slavery, any child born of a slave, even if it was one of massah's children, automatically became a slave. They weren't half-slaves. They were full slaves. Nearly every black in the U.S. has white blood in them, unless their family immigrated recently. There are no full blacks any longer in America, unless they're from Africa.
All your arguments are irrelevant in the face of reality. But you're too blind to see it...
Jimmy the Greek lost his job for saying stuff like that....
Job) he was applying to/for as to what Ethnic Background the dude listed on his paperwork.
