This board needs a serious dose of reality. I don't care if it was ECU losing to Kentucky or UCF get beat by M$U or whoever, it's not OK for our league CHAMP to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder.

If you think it is and you're one of the fans here rubbing up the ECU guys for a "good game" or talking about how hard they played, then you're part of the problem not part of the solution.

The fans of C-USA football are asleep at the wheel if we continue to accept this garbage. ECU fans ought to be all over little Skippy Holtz for his poor game plan, motivation and lack of half-time adjustments. I ain't saying that you need to fire him, that ain't my place, but if you just accept this garbage you're part of the problem and you're not willing to put pressure on your program to get better.

He gets a pass next year, but if Fedora doesn't have USM in the League Championship in 2 years, I'll be pissed.

It's not OK for C-USA's Champ to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder, and I will say the same thing if it ever happens to Southern Miss.

Well when USM gets back you can tell your team to win... who knows they may even listen to U. Hope you enjoy being pissed.. because no one plans on letting you get back there real soon.

(01-03-2009 08:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Well when USM gets back you can tell your team to win... who knows they may even listen to U. Hope you enjoy being pissed.. because no one plans on letting you get back there real soon.

Hey UCF - 17-6

(01-03-2009 08:18 PM)EliteEagle Wrote:  This board needs a serious dose of reality. I don't care if it was ECU losing to Kentucky or UCF get beat by M$U or whoever, it's not OK for our league CHAMP to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder.

If you think it is and you're one of the fans here rubbing up the ECU guys for a "good game" or talking about how hard they played, then you're part of the problem not part of the solution.

The fans of C-USA football are asleep at the wheel if we continue to accept this garbage. ECU fans ought to be all over little Skippy Holtz for his poor game plan, motivation and lack of half-time adjustments. I ain't saying that you need to fire him, that ain't my place, but if you just accept this garbage you're part of the problem and you're not willing to put pressure on your program to get better.

He gets a pass next year, but if Fedora doesn't have USM in the League Championship in 2 years, I'll be pissed.

It's not OK for C-USA's Champ to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder, and I will say the same thing if it ever happens to Southern Miss.

Your aren't paying attention...I said for you to STFU....

(01-03-2009 08:47 PM)NuggetsGhost Wrote:  Your aren't paying attention...I said for you to STFU....

Hey Paul, you don't impress anyone. You never have

(01-03-2009 08:51 PM)EliteEagle Wrote:  

(01-03-2009 08:47 PM)NuggetsGhost Wrote:  Your aren't paying attention...I said for you to STFU....

Hey Paul, you don't impress anyone. You never have

Whoever Paul is, he has a message for you also....STFU....

Maybe your team should have won more games and won the championship and then your Eagles who barely escaped the almighty Troy Trojans could have dominated the Wildcats from the SEC....

before you mention it, I know...
21-3
doesnt really matter though

(01-03-2009 08:18 PM)EliteEagle Wrote:  This board needs a serious dose of reality. I don't care if it was ECU losing to Kentucky or UCF get beat by M$U or whoever, it's not OK for our league CHAMP to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder.

If you think it is and you're one of the fans here rubbing up the ECU guys for a "good game" or talking about how hard they played, then you're part of the problem not part of the solution.

The fans of C-USA football are asleep at the wheel if we continue to accept this garbage. ECU fans ought to be all over little Skippy Holtz for his poor game plan, motivation and lack of half-time adjustments. I ain't saying that you need to fire him, that ain't my place, but if you just accept this garbage you're part of the problem and you're not willing to put pressure on your program to get better.

He gets a pass next year, but if Fedora doesn't have USM in the League Championship in 2 years, I'll be pissed.

It's not OK for C-USA's Champ to lose to an $EC Bottom Feeder, and I will say the same thing if it ever happens to Southern Miss.

Yes. It is important that CUSA win those Liberty Bowl match-ups. The conference will not begin to be taken seriously until they do. And I doubt that anyone on this board thinks otherwise. But the way to help your program get stronger is by supporting it. Getting "pissed" and ranting is childish and immature, and serves no positive purpose. It merely helps division and leads to the destruction of a program. And please, don't be so deluded as to think that your emotions alone will guide USM's fate. I doubt that Fedora would even notice.

you will not see ECU fans rubbing up the team. im depressed at the thought and its a poor reflection on the conference that we lost. WE let YOU down. and it is we who pride ourselves on being better vs bcs then everyone else. I suspect you wont hear much about that from us for awhile because we tripped over our shoelaces on the big stage.

but usm, by all means try to do better the next time you get to the LB in 2035

Of course, if we had beaten the #6 team in the SEC, SO WHAT? I hate the game in this format.

While having no time for Yune, I do agree with the title of the thread. We talk smack to each other but I was pulling hard for UH, UCF and ECU this year in the Liberty Bowl against the SEC. None of us have been blown out by the SEC but we have not executed enough to win those three very winnable games.

I can't make any excuses for ECU. We dominated UK in the 1st half and should of been up by more. We came out flat in the 2nd half, UK put us on our heels and we never recovered. I would of literally preferred to be down at the half instead leading. Last years ECU offense would of sliced and diced UK for a lot more points but this years patchwork offense that played at the LB was not enough to get the job done. Our defense to their credit played a great game. Our fans to their credit showed up in big numbers despite the long trip and the expense. I am out nearly $2k and only have a Beale St magnet to show for my trip so it makes me sick to my stomach that we lost to a 6-6 UK team.

All we can do is try and get better. If Southern Miss goes to the LB next year I will be screaming my lungs out for you guys or any other CUSA team that faces the SEC in the LB.

It isn't like the SEC is blowing out our teams. The C-USA will win some Liberty Bowls in the near future.

UCF lost to a 7-5 Miss State team that was 4-4 in SEC. Kentucky was 6-6 and only had 2 SEC wins... I don't think Miss State was a bottom feeding SEC team. They were a decent SEC team with one of the best defenses in the country. A decent SEC team is equal to a the top teams in a lot of conferences... Didn't crappy little Vandy beat BC in their bowl game this year? The SEC is the BEST conference in the country. Kentucky would have dominated any non BCS conference except for the Mountain West. What does suck about the Liberty Bowl this year is that Kentucky should have lost; ECU blew it with some help from the BCS officiating crew. That's what hurts.

Welcome to the board EliteEagle........nice to see you come on after the LB

I don't think anyone is saying it is OK we lost. Hell I am mad/pissed and don't know what to do. These "big" games is a way for the CUSA to show that we are a good conference. But losing doesn't help.

Yune just can't stay away, can he? Seriously... why do you keep coming back when everyone thinks your a moron. Are you just a glutton for punishment?

If it makes it easier to take that we (C-USA) continue to get skull-drug in the Liberty Bowl by bottom feeding $EC rejects then by all means, continue to accuse me of being someone I am not.

But, deep down you all know that I'm right. You can play patty cake and pretend that Kentucky was a "good" team, But you know they were garbage and Skippy Holtz pulled a half-time choke job.

I'd like to know if there's a story out of Greenville where Skippy apologized to the ECU fans and the rest of C-USA for his poor individual showing in that game?

(01-04-2009 02:22 PM)EliteEagle Wrote:  If it makes it easier to take that we (C-USA) continue to get skull-drug in the Liberty Bowl by bottom feeding $EC rejects then by all means, continue to accuse me of being someone I am not.

But, deep down you all know that I'm right. You can play patty cake and pretend that Kentucky was a "good" team, But you know they were garbage and Skippy Holtz pulled a half-time choke job.

I'd like to know if there's a story out of Greenville where Skippy apologized to the ECU fans and the rest of C-USA for his poor individual showing in that game?

Nobody is saying that Kentucky is a good team. We are just saying that nobody in the C-USA would have done better this year.

I'm just hoping the league improves next year.

And he is gone wooooo

(01-04-2009 02:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Nobody is saying that Kentucky is a good team. We are just saying that nobody in the C-USA would have done better this year.

I'm not sure that's true. First of all, doing better might have meant one pass completion, one special teams tackle, not taking a knee on a kick-off three times... or one "non" fumble. The difference between ECU winning and losing was one or two plays.... It's not as if Kentucky blew them out...

Rice and UH were both pretty hot going into the end of the year, while UH smoked Tulsa and ECU needed 7 turnovers to squeak by them. Sorry... I don't know who else might have been hot in the East.

I know football is not transitive... but neither ECU nor Tulsa (the two teams in the championship game) were hitting on all cylinders at year end. ECU executed poorly down the stretch... and we'll see if Tulsa has rested up any... they looked tired to me...

This is why I don't like the early non-conference games. I'm not saying Tulsa and ECU didn't deserve to be there or whatever... I'm simply saying that they probably weren't playing their best football.