(12-26-2008 09:37 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-26-2008 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-26-2008 12:09 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(12-23-2008 10:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I've never understood the criticisms of the man. Always thought he served his nation well.

I am on Cheney's Christmas Card list... yea,. its signed bya an "autopen" but still..

Are you his lawyer? You will be seeing a lot of him in the near fututre if you are.

If he is a lawyer I'm sure Obama and his chief of staff could put him to good as they try to distance themselves from Blago. A lot of politicians needed lawyers as they left office but I can't think of any that needed them before they even had a chance to be seated.

Blah, blah, blah Obama is a criminal, blah, blah, blah. The righty desperation continues.

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Quote: Dick Cheney was elected vice president of the United States in 2000, as the running mate of George W. Bush. Cheney grew up in Wyoming, where he also earned his college degrees. A staff member in the administration of Richard Nixon, Cheney became the White House chief of staff under Gerald Ford. Cheney was elected to the House of Representatives from Wyoming in 1978 and quickly rose in the ranks of the Republican party; he also served as vice chairman of the committee investigating the Iran-Contra scandal during the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Under President George Bush the elder, Cheney served as Secretary of Defense and played a major role in the Persian Gulf War. Cheney then worked in the oil industry as a top executive for the Halliburton Company before his return to government in 2000.

Well each time Cheney served a "4-Year President", it simply adds up to 'Another Count of Service in a Presidential Administration or as a Presidential Advisor'.

So if he served Reagan twice (which he did in an Unofficial Capacity), Gerald Ford once, GHW Bush once, GW Bush Twice, and Richard Nixon, that's an easy 6 Administration's any way you crunch the numbers right there and I just dropped that one in a rush. Figure it up from the "Quote Above".

And I too have never understood the angst against the man's character.

I mean Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, and John Kerry are so filthy stinking rich, they can only puke Upward and have done nothing but harm the United States with their Uber Left-Winged ideology.

Are you guys jealous that Cheney was smart enough to become independently wealthy like his Liberal Counterparts have ???

Tisk Tisk Tisk you "Tolerant Liberals" ....

And at least Cheney has a Pair that He Grabs As Often as 'Fitty Cent' - - not many on the other side of the Aisle can claim that kind of In Your Face Reputation.


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(12-27-2008 06:58 PM)Tripster Wrote:  .

Quote: Dick Cheney was elected vice president of the United States in 2000, as the running mate of George W. Bush. Cheney grew up in Wyoming, where he also earned his college degrees. A staff member in the administration of Richard Nixon, Cheney became the White House chief of staff under Gerald Ford. Cheney was elected to the House of Representatives from Wyoming in 1978 and quickly rose in the ranks of the Republican party; he also served as vice chairman of the committee investigating the Iran-Contra scandal during the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Under President George Bush the elder, Cheney served as Secretary of Defense and played a major role in the Persian Gulf War. Cheney then worked in the oil industry as a top executive for the Halliburton Company before his return to government in 2000.

Well each time Cheney served a "4-Year President", it simply adds up to 'Another Count of Service in a Presidential Administration or as a Presidential Advisor'.

So if he served Reagan twice (which he did in an Unofficial Capacity), Gerald Ford once, GHW Bush once, GW Bush Twice, and Richard Nixon, that's an easy 6 Administration's any way you crunch the numbers right there and I just dropped that one in a rush. Figure it up from the "Quote Above".

And I too have never understood the angst against the man's character.

I mean Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, and John Kerry are so filthy stinking rich, they can only puke Upward and have done nothing but harm the United States with their Uber Left-Winged ideology.

Are you guys jealous that Cheney was smart enough to become independently wealthy like his Liberal Counterparts have ???

Tisk Tisk Tisk you "Tolerant Liberals" ....

And at least Cheney has a Pair that He Grabs As Often as 'Fitty Cent' - - not many on the other side of the Aisle can claim that kind of In Your Face Reputation.


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It doesn't surprise me a violent thug like you wouldn't see what a violent thug Cheney is and see what he has done to damage this country.

What damage?

Oh why do I bother asking, you'll just go off about my KKK membership and never answer the question.

(12-27-2008 10:26 PM)Paul M Wrote:  What damage?

Oh why do I bother asking, you'll just go off about my KKK membership and never answer the question.

Oh, I don't know. Maybe the entire reputation of the US? You know, the whole torture thing? Oh wait, thugs like you ENDORSE torture-unless it is against a US serviceman then you go nuts and go off shooting people. Does that answer your question?

I wouldn't go off about your KKK membership if you weren't a racist.

If I ever were in a position to interogate a terrorist who was involved in a plot to kill even a single person, someone close or even a stranger, I would kick, beat, cut, stomp, shoot, strangle, whatever necessary to disrupt his plans, unless he said the target was RobertN. Then I would just send him on his merry way. Fool don't want no help, fool don't get no help.

(12-27-2008 10:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  What damage?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe the entire reputation of the US? You know, the whole torture thing? Oh wait, thugs like you ENDORSE torture-unless it is against a US serviceman then you go nuts and go off shooting people. Does that answer your question?

Robert - - Water Boarding and making Terrorist Listen to Barry Manilow CD's at GITMO is not quite the same thing as Attaching Electrodes to a Man's Testicles and Frying the Man's Balls Off, then Beheading Him Alive on International TV.

Not once have I seen you Denounce this sort of Torture, yet you are Double Quick to Dump on the U.S. for using the Same Questioning Tactics they have used for many many decades and they do not kill.

And no, I am not naive here - - I know what happens in back rooms of Non-Geneva Convention Nations who do Contract Interrogations.

If you want to see Torture, watch a South Vietnamese Interrogator Do His Work on a Suspected VC (Victor Charles) - - the Sharia Fundamentalist could learn a few tricks from these sadistic bastards.

So now I am A Thug ??? Then I am a Proud Thug for Serving my Country and Community .....

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(12-27-2008 10:47 PM)Paul M Wrote:  If I ever were in a position to interogate a terrorist who was involved in a plot to kill even a single person, someone close or even a stranger, I would kick, beat, cut, stomp, shoot, strangle, whatever necessary to disrupt his plans, unless he said the target was RobertN. Then I would just send him on his merry way. Fool don't want no help, fool don't get no help.

Of course you would. As I keep saying, you republicans are violent. It doesn't matter that studies have shown that torture doesn't work.

(12-27-2008 10:56 PM)RobertN Wrote:  It doesn't matter that studies have shown that torture doesn't work.

Again with your complete and total ignorance. Some fool tells you what you want to hear and you believe it. Not because it's true, but because you want to believe. Do you have any common sense? Any? Ask yourself, if you had knowledge and someone wanted to get it from you, how long do you think it would take them to get it from you? Answer honestly. How long could you hold out? If you are incapable of answering truthfully, I'll answer for you. Not very long. Probable less then 30 seconds. Same as most everyone. Think about it a minute. Then tell me you would never break. Tell me 'cause studies say so.

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There is not a man on Earth that has not Broken and I don't care what they say to the Contrary ...

Men are not built to take Torture and not Crumble .... I don't care how tough and bad you are on the Field, when the Torture Starts, you may can stand it for a little while out of shear will to prove to your captors that they can not get too you, but in the end, it is always the same - - Men Break.

That is why you Learn "Disinformation" that sounds like the Real Thing so "When You Break (when, not if), you can tell them Lies they Believe".

Torture Does Get Information from Men - - is it the Truth or just what you want too hear so the Pain Will Stop ???

Well that is for other men to investigate and verify.

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Some liberal pencil pusher has told Robert differant though, Trip. If one dimwit can't trust another..., oh never mind.

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LOL Paul ....

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(12-27-2008 10:56 PM)RobertN Wrote:  As I keep saying, you republicans are violent. It doesn't matter that studies have shown that torture doesn't work.

Some how I think that if a crackhead broke into my house and threatened my family you would call me violent if I shot him instead of escaping out the back door. (BTW, here in California that's exactly what you're supposed to do. You can't shoot if you have an option to escape. It's funny how the criminal becomes the victim and vice versa)

(12-27-2008 10:56 PM)Tripster Wrote:  

(12-27-2008 10:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  What damage?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe the entire reputation of the US? You know, the whole torture thing? Oh wait, thugs like you ENDORSE torture-unless it is against a US serviceman then you go nuts and go off shooting people. Does that answer your question?

Robert - - Water Boarding and making Terrorist Listen to Barry Manilow CD's at GITMO is not quite the same thing as Attaching Electrodes to a Man's Testicles and Frying the Man's Balls Off, then Beheading Him Alive on International TV.

Not once have I seen you Denounce this sort of Torture, yet you are Double Quick to Dump on the U.S. for using the Same Questioning Tactics they have used for many many decades and they do not kill.

And no, I am not naive here - - I know what happens in back rooms of Non-Geneva Convention Nations who do Contract Interrogations.

If you want to see Torture, watch a South Vietnamese Interrogator Do His Work on a Suspected VC (Victor Charles) - - the Sharia Fundamentalist could learn a few tricks from these sadistic bastards.

So now I am A Thug ??? Then I am a Proud Thug for Serving my Country and Community .....

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BTW, waterboarding has been used a long time and is considered torture(despite what Cheney and you think). I think all forms of torture are bad and I don't think we should stoop to their level. Oh, I do think you are a thug. I apppreciate that you served our country but the war is over(in case you didn't know).

(12-27-2008 11:52 PM)RobertN Wrote:  BTW, waterboarding has been used a long time and is considered torture(despite what Cheney and you think). I think all forms of torture are bad and I don't think we should stoop to their level. Oh, I do think you are a thug.

I appreciate that you served our country but the war is over(in case you didn't know).

That is a "Joke" Right ???

You do "Jest" when you say the War Is Over correct ???

I honestly hope you realize that the War has yet to even begin ... LOL

I wish I were as Blissful as you are regarding the World and Her "True Thugs" (pssst ... I ain't one of them).

Good Luck RobertN .... you are gonna need it some day when you least expect it ... kinda like all the "Little Eichmann's" in the World Trade Centers on 9/11" needed it.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst ....

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(12-28-2008 12:29 AM)Tripster Wrote:  

(12-27-2008 11:52 PM)RobertN Wrote:  BTW, waterboarding has been used a long time and is considered torture(despite what Cheney and you think). I think all forms of torture are bad and I don't think we should stoop to their level. Oh, I do think you are a thug.

I appreciate that you served our country but the war is over(in case you didn't know).

That is a "Joke" Right ???

You do "Jest" when you say the War Is Over correct ???

I honestly hope you realize that the War has yet to even begin ... LOL

I wish I were as Blissful as you are regarding the World and Her "True Thugs" (pssst ... I ain't one of them).

Good Luck RobertN .... you are gonna need it some day when you least expect it ... kinda like all the "Little Eichmann's" in the World Trade Centers on 9/11" needed it.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst ....

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Well, I wasn't sure if you were aware that the Vietnam war was over. You do know it is over, right? Oh, I am sure that there will be more wars-even another world war. The world religions wouldn't be living up to their past if there was no war to prove which one was right.

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I didn't say who was going to start it, but I hope I am around to help finish it.

It is coming whether we like it or not and I would just as soon live in peace .... but I have no qualms whatsoever about taking up arms to defend my keep.

Humble as it is.

There comes a time when you have to fight or the Dog's Will Rip You to Pieces . . . I don't know about you Robert, but for Me, getting Dog Bit isn't a fun thing.

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Some of you all clearly like to "pi$$ in the wind" as by now you should realize that debating Robert is a futile effort, at best.

(12-28-2008 01:53 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  Some of you all clearly like to "pi$$ in the wind" as by now you should realize that debating Robert is a futile effort, at best.

As if you ever post anything of inteligence. All you post is rightwing crap that Rush tells you.

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OOOPPPP !!!!!!

Robert is a "Closet Rush Fan" !!!!!!!

You trapped your self here Robert .... unless you listen to Rush, how do know what West writes is From the Mouth of the Golden EIB Microphone ???

Got Cha ....

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