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Is Obama a Natural Born Citizen? Constititional Crisis Looms
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Draft of WTP full-page ad to be published in
USA TODAY the week of November 10, 2008:

Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?

Are you legally qualified to hold the Office of President?

An Open Letter to Barack Obama:

Dear Mr. Obama:
On October 24, 2008, a federal judge granted your request to dismiss a lawsuit by Citizen Philip Berg, who challenged your qualifications under the "Natural Born Citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution to legally hold the office of President of the United States of America.
Mr. Berg presented factual evidence to the Court in support of his claim that you are either a citizen of your father's native Kenya by birth, or that you became a citizen of Indonesia, relinquishing your prior citizenship when you moved there with your mother in 1967.
In your response to the lawsuit, you neither denied Mr. Berg's claims nor submitted any evidence which would refute his assertions. Instead, you argued that the Court lacked the jurisdiction to determine the question of your legal eligibility because Mr. Berg lacked "standing."
Astonishingly, the judge agreed, simply saying, "[Mr. Berg] would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary [sic] in living memory."
Unfortunately, your response to the legal claim was clearly evasive and strikingly out of character, suggesting you may, in fact, lack a critical Constitutional qualification necessary to assume the Office of President: i.e., that you are not a "natural born" citizen of the United States or one who has relinquished his American citizenship.
Before you can exercise any of the powers of the United States, you must prove that you have fully satisfied each and every eligibility requirement that the Constitution mandates for any individual�s exercise of those powers.
Regardless of the tactics chosen in defending yourself against the Berg lawsuit, significant questions regarding your legal capacity to hold this nation�s highest office have been put forth publicly, and you have failed to directly refute them with documentary evidence that is routinely available to any bona fide, natural born U.S. Citizen.

As one who has ventured into the fray of public service of his own volition, seeking to possess the vast powers of the Office of President, it is not unreasonable to demand that you produce evidence of your citizenship to answer the questions and allay the concerns of the People. Indeed, as the one seeking the office, you are under a moral, legal, and fiduciary duty to proffer such evidence to establish your qualifications as explicitly mandated by Article II of the Constitution.
Should you proceed to assume the office of the President of the United States as anything but a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States that has not relinquished that citizenship, you would be inviting a national disaster, placing our Republic at great risk from untold consequences. For example:
1] Neither the Electoral College on December 15, nor the House of Representatives on January 6 would be able to elect you, except as a poseur - a usurper;
2] As a usurper, you would be unable to take the required "Oath or Affirmation" of office on January 20 without committing the crime of perjury or false swearing, for being ineligible for the Office of the President you cannot faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States;
3] Your every act in the usurped Office of the President would be a criminal offense as an act under color of law that would subject the People to the deprivation of their constitutional rights, and entitling you to no obedience whatsoever from the People;
4] as a usurper acting in the guise of the President you could not function as the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy and of the militia of the several states, as such forces would be under no legal obligation to remain obedient to you;
5] No one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of your proclamations, executive orders or directives, as such orders would be legally VOID;
6] Your appointment of Ambassadors and Judges to the Supreme Court would be VOID ab initio (i.e., from the beginning), no matter what subsequent actions the Senate might take as well as rendering any such acts by such appointed officials void as well;
7] Congress would not be able to pass any new laws because they would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President, rendering all such legislation legally VOID;
8] As a usurper, Congress would be unable to remove you from the Office of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos including a potential for armed conflicts within the General Government or among the States and the People to effect the removal of such a usurper.
As an attorney and sitting U.S. Senator, I'm sure you agree that our Constitution is the cornerstone of our system of governance. It is the very foundation of our system of Law and Order and indeed, it is the supreme law of the land. I'm sure you also agree that its precise language was no accident and cannot be ignored if Individual, unalienable, natural Rights, Freedoms and Liberties are to be protected and preserved.
As our next potential President, you have a high-order obligation to the Constitution (and to those who have fought and died for our Freedom) that extends far beyond that of securing a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. No matter your promises of change and prosperity, your heartfelt intent or the widespread support you have garnered in seeking the highest Office of the Land, the integrity of the Republic and Rule of Law cannot, -- must not -- be put at risk, by allowing a constitutionally unqualified person to sit, as a usurper, in the Office of the President.
No matter the level of practical difficulty, embarrassment or disruption of the nation's business, we must -- above all -- honor and protect the Constitution and the divine, unalienable, Individual Rights it guarantees, including the Right to a President who is a natural born citizen of the United States of America that has not relinquished his American citizenship. Our nation has endured similar disruptions in the past, and will weather this crisis as well. Indeed, it is both yours and the People�s mutual respect for, and commitment to, the Constitution and Rule of Law that insures the perpetuation of Liberty.
As a long time defender of my state and federal Constitutions, and in consideration of the lack of sufficient evidence needed to establish your credentials as President, I am compelled to lodge this Petition for Redress of Grievances and public challenge to you.

Make no mistake: This issue IS a Constitutional crisis. Although it will not be easy for you, your family or our Republic, you have it within your ability to halt this escalating crisis by either producing the certified documents establishing beyond question your qualifications to hold the Office of President, or by immediately withdrawing yourself from the Electoral College process.
With due respect, I hereby request that you deliver the following documents to Mr. Berg and myself at the National Press Club in Washington, DC at noon on Monday, November 17, 2008:

(a) a certified copy of your "vault" (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
© a certified copy of your Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy of your Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of your admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing your name from Barry Soetoro.
In the alternative, in defense of the Constitution, and in honor of the Republic and that for which it stands, please announce before such time your withdrawal from the 2008 Presidential election process.
"In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy."
Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 469-471.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
Sincerely,

Robert L. Schulz,
Founder and Chairman,
We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc.
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It's made it on the Supreme Court Docket.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)


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State Of Hawaii Backs Andy Martin In Obama Birth Certificate Battle

http://www.rightsidenews.com/20081101243...attle.html

(HONOLULU)(November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawai'i over Barack Obama's bogus "original" birth certificate. Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawai'i backed his assertion that there was an original, "typewritten, 1961" birth certificate, called a "Certificate of Live Birth" or "COLB" in Hawai'i, that no one has previously seen. Hawai'i officials retrieved and examined the document after Martin filed a lawsuit seeking access to the historic 1961 original.
Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin.

Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.
Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.

"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.

"Why would Hawai'i officials review the vault document at the Eleventh Hour if my lawsuit wasn't causing a furor in Hawai'i state government? Why? The Friday before the election?

"Mine is the only logical, rational, properly prepared lawsuit that has been filed to open Obama's secret records. I sued in the proper state in the proper court against the proper officials for the proper remedy. And they are responding properly. The judge has properly, although not as quickly as I would have preferred, set a hearing to consider my claims. I have not filed outrageous or exaggerated pleadings.

"I merely sought access to a document based on its scholarly and news value and because I had been tipped by my sources inside state government that Obama was lying. My network of informants within state government helps me and guides me. Others filed lawsuits outside Hawai'i that have either been dismissed or discredited. My 'little engine that could' is chugging along.

"I have an outstanding record of high-profile public interest litigation, as recognized by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court five years ago when they allowed me to represent a U. S. Marine in a landmark lawsuit." See http://www.AndyMartin.com and http://www.FirstRespondersOnline.us

In a Honolulu news conference on October 22nd Martin disclosed that Frank Marshall Davis was the biological father of Barack Obama, not Barack Obama senior. The Obama campaign has not denied Martin's claim.

"Over the past month I have been on combat patrol from coast to coast for the truth and for the United States Constitution," says Andy. "I have not the slightest link to John McCain. I am connected to the Constitution and nothing else. I have waged relentless war against Barack Obama's lies. And on the eve of the final weekend in the presidential campaign Hawai'i government has backed me by confirming that officials have examined the original, typewritten 1961 document, and confirmed that the document released by the Obama campaign was a facsimile, not the original.

"I have won a major victory: I proved Obama was lying about what he had posed on the Internet and falsely portrayed as 'the original.' 'Barry, we caught you with your pants down. We caught you lying, again.

"Saturday it will be my pleasure to return home to Chicago after one of the most successful independent political battle operations in media history, to wage the final weekend of war for the truth and Constitution and against the Daley Machine and Obama Gang. I have successfully been exposing and fighting Daley Family corruption for over forty years. Barry Obama is part of the second generation Daley Machine. He is a member in good standing of this criminal operation.

"The Machine doesn't like me. But I have a history of coming up with the truth, and a history of embarrassing powerful people. In retaliation, they try to smear me. The disclosure that Hawai'i officials have examined the true original COLB, and that Obama lied to the American people by falsely claiming he had posted the original 1961 document, is going to spread like wildfire between Saturday and Tuesday night.

"This election is bizarre because the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party, the Party's leader, is from the Daley Machine in Chicago. And the leader of the Internet Army opposing Obama and working to defeat him and the Daley Machine is also from Chicago. My Senator would be proud.

Martin is expected to announce Saturday that he is suing Fox News as well as the New York Times, for defamation of character. The lawsuit will be released Monday morning.

"For Fox News to treat me as they did is beneath contempt," says Martin. "I am respected around the world for accuracy, honesty and integrity. We know the New York Times is a corrupt media operation. But Fox News? Well, Ruppert Murdock may want to kow'tow to Barack Obama, but I will not kow'tow to Ruppert Murdock. The crass executives deserve to be sued for their malicious attacks on me. Someone ought to stand up for me: I helped expose Bill Ayers and Khalid Al-Mansour. A slimy 'vice president' that probably never worked a case or a story had the nerve to demean me. What a compete corporate moron.

"How dare these media imposters and blowhards smear me with lies, when I have worked tirelessly to expose the truth about Barack Obama-and succeeded," Martin will charge. "I'll be happy to face the Fox jerk, Vice President Bill Shine, in court and defend my good name against Obama's mud merchants, the New York Times and Ruppert Murdock. Ruppert Murdock's daughter is backing Obama, for Chrissake.

"I also plan Saturday to thank Dr. Chiyome Fukino for confirming my factual allegation that there was/is an original, typewritten 1961 'vault' COLB that has not been made public and that the true 'original' COLB is in official files. That confirmation makes Barack Obama a liar, on the last weekend of the campaign. Thank you, doctor.

"Now you know why Obama and Axelrod and Gibbs call me the 'Internet Powerhouse' that can't be stopped. Barack Obama will be bleeding through election night because of this massive lie exposed on the eve of their election. I work for the American people, not John McCain or the Republican Party. Friday, truth arrived in Honolulu, and in the remaining 100 hours that truth is going to be spread from coast-to-coast.

"Obama lied."

Martin lands in Chicago at noon, and will proceed to his office, for an afternoon news conference.

Martin is also soliciting financial support to fund his litigation in Hawai'i.
11-25-2008 06:19 AM
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He was born in hawaii.
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Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLE...abirth.php

(Obama's birth announcement in two Hawaii papers the week he was born)

For those nutcases who still think it's a lie, you might want to learn that back in 1961, papers routinely got birth announcements directly from the hospitals - parents didn't submit them themselves.
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Hey, "dumbo", glad to see you around again.04-cheers

Ahhh...., to be able to use such a word as dumbo and not have all hell brake loose! Your going to like it here, just ignore all us old SOD members.

Welcome aboard Sum, and I hope you and your family are well. And Happy Thanksgiving.
Disclaimer: I'm not calling the topic starter or any other member here a "dumbo". Oh, never mind, forgot we're not in the land of sod any longer. I reserve the right to call any one a dumbo.
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Let the SCOTUS handle this. It seems that BO was born in Hawaii. My question is Why is this still ongoing?
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SUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW THE HECK ARE YOU MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been long enough ..... glad you still know where your Keyboard is at.

We know how one Site can poison you to most every other one don't we.

Oh yeah ... I got BANNED from there !!!!! 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

But I got Reinstated - - yet still with much Punishment and they make wear a Shocking Dog Collar so when I say ANYTHING, they give me a Super TASE Blast with it ..... 03-drunk 04-chairshot (hush RobertN)

Good to see you Old Son !!!!!!
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Fo Shizzle Wrote:Let the SCOTUS handle this. It seems that BO was born in Hawaii. My question is Why is this still ongoing?

Supposedly, his birth certificate does not resemble the birth certificates of others born in Hawaii at the same time.
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Fo Shizzle Wrote:Let the SCOTUS handle this. It seems that BO was born in Hawaii. My question is Why is this still ongoing?
Because these rightwing nutcases still can't stand the fact that a Democrat won and will do whatever they can to destroy him. It is what they do best(it sure the hell isn't running the country).
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SUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW THE HECK ARE YOU MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been long enough ..... glad you still know where your Keyboard is at.

We know how one Site can poison you to most every other one don't we.

Oh yeah ... I got BANNED from there !!!!! 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

But I got Reinstated - - but with much Punishment and they make wear a Shocking Dog Collar so when I say ANYTHING, they give me a Super TASE Blast with it ..... 03-drunk 04-chairshot (hush RobertN)

Good to see you Old Son !!!!!!
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Now that is a real surprise. You got banned from a political message board. Hey, you should be fine here. A majority are rightwing nutcases like you so they will stick up for you. 05-stirthepot
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Fo Shizzle Wrote:Let the SCOTUS handle this. It seems that BO was born in Hawaii. My question is Why is this still ongoing?
Because these rightwing nutcases still can't stand the fact that a Democrat won and will do whatever they can to destroy him. It is what they do best(it sure the hell isn't running the country).

Things were going fine until the Dems won control of congress.

Now, they can't print money fast enough to meet all of their promises.
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Hey Sum, It's great to see you're still alive and kicking. You won't get banned from this joint simply for being conservative and I've yet to see a post edited, deleted or closed. And imagine this - NO WARNING BAR!! In this forum the liberals take their medicine like real men and don't whine about political correctness.

Can you imagine what would happen if Obama really wasn't born in the USA? We'd have to deport our president.
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Skrew you very much too RobertN ..... 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

But RobertN, you are growing on me man ..... I am starting to like you .... you are akin to the Little Brother I never wanted and that goes straight to my heart.

And yes, the Nazi's were running the Political Section on that Site and if you were not an Azz Kissing Mongoloid with absolutely no Opinion, you were not welcome in that Section.

In fact, the MOD's were so bad and Power Hungry, that they caused the Entire Political Section to be killed off ..... they now have a Revised Version that NO ONE Will Post in, so it is a waste of Bandwidth and may as well be the Pottery Making Tutorial Section for all it is worth.

Thanksgiving is coming up soon RobertN and now since I see you as the Little Brother I Never Wanted, I guess I ought to ask if you want to come to Thanksgiving Dinner with your new adopted family.

Take care RobertN and don't WORK so hard, Ms. Peggy can stand to be late on her House Mortgage, no one will try to take it away from her now that the Messiah is in Office and YOU get to pay More Taxes RobertN ..... it truly will be a Fine "Holiday Season".

And I will let you shoot my AR15's, M4's, and the AK47 I am thinking about getting ... if it is a True Soviet Made AK. I even bought this little M16 look-a-like called the M1600 …. It is a .22 Cal Auto that is a 'Hoot To Shoot'.

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Skrew you very much too RobertN ..... 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

But RobertN, you are growing on me man ..... I am starting to like you .... you are akin to the Little Brother I never wanted and that goes straight to my heart.

And yes, the Nazi's were running the Political Section on that Site and if you were not an Azz Kissing Mongoloid with absolutely no Opinion, you were not welcome in that Section.

In fact, the MOD's were so bad and Power Hungry, that they caused the Entire Political Section to be killed off ..... they now have a Revised Version that NO ONE Will Post in, so it is a waste of Bandwidth and may as well be the Pottery Making Tutorial Section for all it is worth.

Thanksgiving is coming up soon RobertN and now since I see you as the Little Brother I Never Wanted, I guess I ought to ask if you want to come to Thanksgiving Dinner with your new adopted family.

Take care RobertN and don't WORK so hard, Ms. Peggy can stand to be late on her House Mortgage, no one will try to take it away from her now that the Messiah is in Office and YOU get to pay More Taxes RobertN ..... it truly will be a Fine "Holiday Season".

And I will let you shoot my AR15's, M4's, and the AK47 I am thinking about getting ... if it is a True Soviet Made AK. I even bought this little M16 look-a-like called the M1600 …. It is a .22 Cal Auto that is a 'Hoot To Shoot'.

Take care RobertN ..... 04-rock
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RobertN Wrote:
Fo Shizzle Wrote:Let the SCOTUS handle this. It seems that BO was born in Hawaii. My question is Why is this still ongoing?
Because these rightwing nutcases still can't stand the fact that a Democrat won and will do whatever they can to destroy him. It is what they do best(it sure the hell isn't running the country).

Weren't the original lawsuits brought on by Democrats? RobertN, you still refuse to discuss anything, instead you just mudsling without intelligence. Great Job.
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Why are you trying to tear down our president? We are in the middle of an economic crisis, and this is what you are worried about?
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firmbizzle Wrote:Why are you trying to tear down our president? We are in the middle of an economic crisis, and this is what you are worried about?

Because they hate America. 05-stirthepot
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firmbizzle Wrote:Why are you trying to tear down our president? We are in the middle of an economic crisis, and this is what you are worried about?

Because they hate America. 05-stirthepot

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