We are going to lose our BCS status wait and see!

Wilkie, your right about BE needing Cin to win out, 4 games gives them oppertunity to make 4 jumps & gets them into top 14. Orange bowl would want FSU for game [WF needs to lose one game for FSU to get tie breaker ]. Orange bowl is least tolerant of 4 BCS games about thier matchups, there never happy.
with a little luck, Sugar bowl likes Cin better than Ohio St.

more real evidence the presidents are happy with staus quo. As for the bcs, the BE is reaffirmes thru 2013. Time for the glue factory.

Listen up, Colorado State Ram, this is an adult message board where people discuss things in an adult manner. If you want to flame like a sissified juvenile delinquent then I strongly suggest that you join Rivals or Scout instead. This is not that kind of board.

I believe I am correct in saying that the posters here have no problem with disagreements if you come to us with logical and coherent positions while conducting yourself in an intelligent manner. Esayem, Rferry, and more than a few others can be examples of this.

What we will not tolerate, and I think the moderators will back me up on this, is the childish type of thread hijacking that you have engaged in the last couple of days. So, again, I suggest engaging us intelligently. Otherwise join Rivals or Scout and flame away.

The Big East's best chance for a split is to add a football only school. If that school becomes successful, then there will be all kinds of pressure for it to become a full member. If a football only school became a full member, it would upset the 8-8 balance, which would lead to a split.

BullsBEAST Wrote:so stupid... i had actually started to believe that they would name someone who would help football, apparently thats still a dream

time to split

I told U guys the schol prez's have gotton comfortable with the current set up.. The BE is what it will be for quite a while.

Well on the surface this doesn't seem to be good news for the football side of things. What the Big East needed now more than anything was a comissioner the level of Delaney in the Big Ten who would try to push his conference into the forefront of college athletics. Football needed someone who would fight for more positive coverage, fight for better tv and bowls and even look to improve the league via expansion and other means.

Looks instead like more of the same. You really have to wonder what the all sports schools really think of this and why they voted for this person. I was hoping for the Big Twelve guy or the CBS guy, but obviously Tranghese has all convinced bb is all that matters.

This just confirms that conference rivalries will remain ambiguous. The rivals will remain different in football and basketball, along with the various other sports each respective school plays - and it's a wide range...

Once again, nobody is on the same page...

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He won't have much say in terms of TV direction, which is what my concern is, until the next set of TV contracts come up in five years.

This is the time where the football ADs need to take a hard line stand on scheduling if they want to. Don't want to play on Sunday, Wednesday or Friday nights? Want to condense down the season to 12 games in 13 weeks instead or 12 games in 14 or 15? Want to play a specific rivalry game on a specific date every year? Time to put up or shut up as an AD. Pitt told ESPN that they didn't want Friday night home games and preferred no weeknight games at home if possible, and it appears that is a battle they won.

I'm sure the football side of the equation will give them the benefit of the doubt until 2013 (think that's the year). But if certain issues aren't addressed the football schools should split. It could happen sooner, but who knows what the future holds...

If I was the Commish of the MWC, I'd get to 12 members right away. I have a feeling that when the Big 10 raids the Big East for it's 12th member, the PAC 10 will add two more to get to 12, then all BCS conferences will be required to play a conference championship game. What will the Big East do then? Even though the MWC will likely lose two schools to the Pac 10, it will be a lot easier for them to add two schools to get back to 12, then for the Big East to add 5 schools. Heck, the Pac10 might raid the WAC for one school. In the end, I can definitely see where the Big East will be put in a position where the other BCS conferences will have legitimate reasons to kick the Big East out of the BCS. Standing pat in that conglomerate is going to be the downfall of the football schools.

gosports1 Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:Providence College has proven to be almost worthless in the BE and has not been very relevant on the national scene for some time, with the exception of a couple of years. Tranghese and Gavitt both know that Providence is a midmajor pretending to be a major basketball school, and without the fb schools will probably be forever doomed to be midmajor. They are doing all that they can to ensure that Providence always be associated with the Big Boys, even at the expense of the Big Boys in conference.

All of this time, I have been very supportive of Tranghese, but now I am done with him and his small time thinking. He should not be able to wield so much influence in the BE, especially when it concerns the fb schools.

Kind of like syracuse football?
Bashing another conference member isnt going to solve anything

You must be a Providence College fan. Syracuse fb has always been much more relevant than Providence basketball. It always will be.

But you are right. I should not have bashed Providence like that. If you are indeed a providence fan, I apologize. But it was in the heat of the moment after I read this article. I just want what is best for the BE, and this hire just doesnt seem to be whats best for the BE imo. But the best thing to do is excersize patience and give the guy a chance. But even you have to admit, it does seem as if you have to be a Providence Man in order to become the Commish of the BE.

Krocker Krapp Wrote:What we will not tolerate, and I think the moderators will back me up on this, is the childish type of thread hijacking that you have engaged in the last couple of days.

Yes, they will, Krocker...

Ram, give it a rest. And, I think it’s funny when a fan of one of a conference’s worst teams pounds his chest about how good his conference is. It’s like a scrawny four-year-old making trouble while his buffed 18-year-old brother stands behind him.

If you flame here, do it on the smack board.

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NEW YORK (AP)—The Big East will promote senior associate commissioner John Marinatto to replace Mike Tranghese, who is retiring after 19 years leading the conference.

A person with knowledge of the decision told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Marinatto would be introduced Wednesday as the Big East’s third commissioner. The person requested anonymity because the official announcement had yet to be made.

The 64-year-old Tranghese became commissioner in 1990, replacing Dave Gavitt. Tranghese announced in June he would step down in a year.

The Big East has scheduled an 11 a.m. teleconference “to make a significant announcement concerning the direction of the conference."

Marinatto, who oversees the conference’s finances, has been with Big East for seven seasons, serving as Tranghese’s second-in-command. Before moving to the Big East, Marinatto was athletic director at Providence College.

Among those strongly considered for the job was former Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg.

Tranghese leaves the Big East in good health, with 16 basketball teams and eight football teams.

The league added five schools in 2005 following the high-profile defections of football powers Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech to the Atlantic Coast Conference.

Tranghese has said the conference’s ability to absorb those losses and remain intact was his proudest memory as commissioner.

Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati were brought on to fill out the football side of the Big East, and the league added Marquette and DePaul on the basketball side

cuseroc Wrote:

gosports1 Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:Providence College has proven to be almost worthless in the BE and has not been very relevant on the national scene for some time, with the exception of a couple of years. Tranghese and Gavitt both know that Providence is a midmajor pretending to be a major basketball school, and without the fb schools will probably be forever doomed to be midmajor. They are doing all that they can to ensure that Providence always be associated with the Big Boys, even at the expense of the Big Boys in conference.

All of this time, I have been very supportive of Tranghese, but now I am done with him and his small time thinking. He should not be able to wield so much influence in the BE, especially when it concerns the fb schools.

Kind of like syracuse football?
Bashing another conference member isnt going to solve anything

You must be a Providence College fan. Syracuse fb has always been much more relevant than Providence basketball. It always will be.

But you are right. I should not have bashed Providence like that. If you are indeed a providence fan, I apologize. But it was in the heat of the moment after I read this article. I just want what is best for the BE, and this hire just doesnt seem to be whats best for the BE imo. But the best thing to do is excersize patience and give the guy a chance. But even you have to admit, it does seem as if you have to be a Providence Man in order to become the Commish of the BE.

I do like PC (among others, i have a # of BE ties)you're right PC has had some "lean" years lately. I figured you were upset.I just think we should save the bashing for game day.
My guess why the chose maranatto is that he is familiar with the BE and it would be the easiest transition. It also leads me to believe that a split is not coming anytime soon. Although one could argue that by selecting him the BB schools now have a commish that understands their needs and should a split occur they'll be taken care of and the FB schools would be able to find a new commish that is more attuned to their needs/wants

A Few Words From The New Big East Commish
By Desmond Conner on November 12, 2008 12:23 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)
What's good?

Here's John Marinatto, the Big East commissioner in waiting on issues on his next top priority with football, expansion and just how in line with Mike Tranghese is he on the makeup of the football side.

First of all, kill the split talk with respect to football and basketball. Marinatto did and said it's only discussed outside of the Big East.

'We're on solid ground in so many areas as we follow our current plan of moving forward," Marinatto said. "The next item on our agenda in terms of our most immediate challenge would be, immediately once the next BCS contract is signed, is to jump into our bowl situation in terms of postseason opportunities and deal with that in terms of trying to solidify what the next four- year cycle will be. That's our next top priority."

I asked him about a possible split.

I know people say that sometimes outside the confines of the table we sit at here but there's nobody within the conference that really brings those items up. It's a more or less a speculation on blogs and out there on the advent of those kinds of things within the technology of the internet but we as a conference don't have those discussions whatsoever in terms of the conference splitting or not moving forward...I think having bonded through the process of rebuilding the conference over the course of the past five years we've actually come together in a stronger way than we've ever been and the harmony and the unity and the comradery that exists among our 16 presidents, among our 16 athletic directors, speaks well to our future because there is such comradery and support for one another."

A ninth football member?

"There was no specific item like that we talked about throughout the process or I've advanced as being one of our immediate priorities but no, there is no discussion of that at this point among the membership."

How close are he and outgoing commish Mike Tranghese on the issue of football expansion?

"We obviously disagree on different items but on this specific issue I think we both are on the same page relative to where we stand right now in football. We're open-minded and we've built in precautions obviously in the event something happens, a certain school or two become available from some other conferences but right now I don't think there's immediate plan or any plan for that matter to expand and he and I are on the same page on that."

More tomorrow

Peace,

DC

Marinatto is likely selection as Big East’s next commissioner

01:00 AM EST on Wednesday, November 12, 2008

BY KEVIN McNAMARA

Journal Sports Writer
PROVIDENCE — The Big East is set to name its third commissioner today, and it appears the job will remain in the Providence College family.

John Marinatto, a former PC athletic director and the current senior associate commissioner of the conference, is expected to be named as the replacement for outgoing boss Mike Tranghese. A press conference will be held this morning at the league’s offices in Davol Square to make the official announcement.

Numerous press outlets were reporting Marinatto’s hiring last night, but no one associated with the league would comment publicly.

Marinatto would be following in the footsteps of two men he worked for years ago at PC. Dave Gavitt created the conference while he was PC’s basketball coach and athletic director. He left the school to become the Big East’s first commissioner back in 1979. Tranghese was the sports information officer for Gavitt in the 1970s but left to become the conference’s first full-time employee. Marinatto worked as a student assistant for both Gavitt and Tranghese while attending PC in the late 1970s, and was the school’s athletic director from 1987-2001.

When Gavitt left the Big East to run the Boston Celtics, Tranghese succeeded him as commissioner in 1990. Tranghese announced last summer that he would resign the position in June of 2009. The Big East immediately went to work on finding a replacement. The co-chairmen in charge of the search are University of Pittsburgh President Mark A. Nordenberg and Georgetown President John J. DeGioia.

Those two presented their search findings at a meeting of the presidents of the league’s 16 schools yesterday in Philadelphia. Athletic directors of each school were in attendance, as well, and a presidential vote was taken on the commissioner’s position.

Marinatto’s name instantly rose toward the top of the list of candidates over the last few months. The 51-year-old has been in charge of the conference’s finances, and he’s run a large and growing office for the last several years. Marinatto and Tranghese are the principal contacts with the conference’s 16 presidents, a relationship that certainly strengthened Marinatto’s chances for the job.

Other candidates mentioned in various press reports recently included Kevin Weiberg, a former Big XII commissioner and current Big Ten TV Network executive; former Orange Bowl CEO Keith Tribble; Chris Plonsky, a former Big East official who is now an associate AD at the University of Texas, and current Big East associate commissioners Nick Carparelli and Tom Odjakjian.

From the moment he announced he would leave the commissioner’s post, Tranghese seemed to be openly lobbying for Marinatto to succeed him. Without mentioning him by name, Tranghese insisted that the next commissioner “should be someone who understands who we are. We are a very unique group of schools that is unlike any other and the person has to be able to appreciate that.”

Tranghese was referring to the Big East’s hybrid formation where eight schools play Division I-A football, seven do not, and Notre Dame preserves its football independence. Tranghese was the driving force behind adding football as a Big East sport 17 years ago and is credited with playing the key role in saving the football conference after the Atlantic Coast Conference lured away Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech. The Big East responded by adding Cincinnati, Louisville and South Florida for all sports, and DePaul and Marquette for all sports except football.

In four seasons together, the eight-team football league has regained its footing as an automatic participant in the lucrative Bowl Championship Series, and posted BCS bowl victories in each of the last three years, with West Virginia winning the 2006 Sugar Bowl and 2008 Fiesta Bowl, and Louisville the Orange Bowl in 2007. The 16-team basketball league has set records for placing teams into the NCAA Tournament, and owns TV contracts that offer unprecedented national exposure.

Marinatto’s elevation to Big East commissioner is an ironic development considering his salty departure from his alma mater seven years ago. In July of 2001, Marinatto was offered the newly created position of assistant vice president for athletic fundraising and asked to resign as athletic director by then school president Rev. Philip A. Smith. Instead of accepting what was seen as a demotion, Marinatto chose to leave PC. He was hired by the Big East in 2002.

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The Big East isn't splitting. Those of us on the outside looking in need to start working together and stop waiting on these guys. They're just going to leave you hanging.

LastMinuteman Wrote:The Big East isn't splitting. Those of us on the outside looking in need to start working together and stop waiting on these guys. They're just going to leave you hanging.

I know that's right.

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Well the Friars are happy.