http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

basically the BE no longer under review until 2010-13 4yr period. So 08 and 09 are freebies!! What a system!

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

basically the BE no longer under review until 2010-13 4yr period. So 08 and 09 are freebies!! What a system!

Actually, all of the conferences come under review every 4 years. The BE is the one that gets alot of attention because of the supposed weakness of the conference and because we dont anchor a bcs bowl.
But I would think that the 08 and 09 seasons will be used in some review process whether its in 2013-04 or earlier. I dont believe there are any years that are freebies, but I could be wrong.

cuseroc Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

basically the BE no longer under review until 2010-13 4yr period. So 08 and 09 are freebies!! What a system!

Actually, all of the conferences come under review every 4 years. The BE is the one that gets alot of attention because of the supposed weakness of the conference and because we dont anchor a bcs bowl.
But I would think that the 08 and 09 seasons will be used in some review process whether its in 2013-04 or earlier. I dont believe there are any years that are freebies, but I could be wrong.

If you read the link it tells you exactly how it works. The way I read it, the current BCS conferences are locked in through the 2013 season. There is room for one more auto BCS conference in 2012 and 2013. 2014 everything starts over.

"The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences will have annual automatic qualification for a BCS game after the regular seasons of 2008 through 2013, based on mathematical standards of performance during the 2004-2007 regular seasons.

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

If the BCS continues under the same or similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010-2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons."

3601 Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

basically the BE no longer under review until 2010-13 4yr period. So 08 and 09 are freebies!! What a system!

Actually, all of the conferences come under review every 4 years. The BE is the one that gets alot of attention because of the supposed weakness of the conference and because we dont anchor a bcs bowl.
But I would think that the 08 and 09 seasons will be used in some review process whether its in 2013-04 or earlier. I dont believe there are any years that are freebies, but I could be wrong.

If you read the link it tells you exactly how it works. The way I read it, the current BCS conferences are locked in through the 2013 season. There is room for one more auto BCS conference in 2012 and 2013. 2014 everything starts over.

"The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences will have annual automatic qualification for a BCS game after the regular seasons of 2008 through 2013, based on mathematical standards of performance during the 2004-2007 regular seasons.

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

If the BCS continues under the same or similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010-2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons."

I agree.


But on a side note, I thought the following was very interesting, especially for the MWC folks:

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

By "other conferences", it seems they are talking about conferences who do not recive an auto bcs bid. I think this is what the MWC commish is banking on, as they are having a good 2008 so far, especially if they invite Boise. Its possible that they could receive the 7th bid, but I dont think its very likely.

cuseroc Wrote:

3601 Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

TIGER-PAUL Wrote:http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

basically the BE no longer under review until 2010-13 4yr period. So 08 and 09 are freebies!! What a system!

Actually, all of the conferences come under review every 4 years. The BE is the one that gets alot of attention because of the supposed weakness of the conference and because we dont anchor a bcs bowl.
But I would think that the 08 and 09 seasons will be used in some review process whether its in 2013-04 or earlier. I dont believe there are any years that are freebies, but I could be wrong.

If you read the link it tells you exactly how it works. The way I read it, the current BCS conferences are locked in through the 2013 season. There is room for one more auto BCS conference in 2012 and 2013. 2014 everything starts over.

"The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences will have annual automatic qualification for a BCS game after the regular seasons of 2008 through 2013, based on mathematical standards of performance during the 2004-2007 regular seasons.

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

If the BCS continues under the same or similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010-2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons."

I agree.


But on a side note, I thought the following was very interesting, especially for the MWC folks:

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

By "other conferences", it seems they are talking about conferences who do not recive an auto bcs bid. I think this is what the MWC commish is banking on, as they are having a good 2008 so far, especially if they invite Boise. Its possible that they could receive the 7th bid, but I dont think its very likely.

Agreed, based upon their performance already for the 2006 and 2007 seasons the MWC will not likely get an auto-bid for 2012-2013.

However, if they can persuade Boise to join them in 2010, they could perform well enough from 2010-2013 to get that seventh auto-bid.

Cheers,
Neil

"The evaluation data includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year."

Assume that the MWC added Boise St. in 2009. Would Boise State's record in 2006-2008 count towards the MWC? Didn't something similar happen with Louisville's years in C-USA counting toward the Big East? If so, you'd have this...

2006 - MWC highest ranking is #8, ACC is #14, Big East is #6
MWC has 2 top 25 teams, ACC has 2 top 25 and Big East has 3 top 25 teams

2007 - MWC higest ranking is #17, ACC is #3, Big East is #9
MWC has 2 top 25 teams, ACC has 4 and Big East has 4

2008 - MWC current highest ranking is #8, ACC is #19 and Big East is #25
MWC has 4 top 25 teams, ACC has 4 and Big East has 1

Based on that criteria (and if Boise's 2006-2008 records count), MWC has a chance with a solid 2009 season. The only question is whether or not criteria #2 (the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year) keeps them out.

omnicarrier Wrote:Agreed, based upon their performance already for the 2006 and 2007 seasons the MWC will not likely get an auto-bid for 2012-2013.

See my previous post. If MWC added Boise State in January 2009 would Boise's records in 2006, 2007 and 2008 count towards the MWC for the 2006-2009 evaluation period? Didn't that happen with Louisville's records in C-USA counting toward the Big East?

3601 Wrote:

omnicarrier Wrote:Agreed, based upon their performance already for the 2006 and 2007 seasons the MWC will not likely get an auto-bid for 2012-2013.

See my previous post. If MWC added Boise State in January 2009 would Boise's records in 2006, 2007 and 2008 count towards the MWC for the 2006-2009 evaluation period? Didn't that happen with Louisville's records in C-USA counting toward the Big East?

I do not believe Boise can be added by January 2009, since I remember reading somewhere the WAC requires a one year notification. The earliest Boise could be added is January of 2010 (more likely July 1, 2010), by which time, in either case, the 2009 season is over.

Cheers,
Neil

3601 Wrote:Assume that the MWC added Boise St. in 2009. Would Boise State's record in 2006-2008 count towards the MWC? Didn't something similar happen with Louisville's years in C-USA counting toward the Big East?

No, only Louisville's last year in C-USA counted towards the Big East. You're confusing it with the Big East getting credit for Miami's and Virginia Tech's last 3 years in the Big East (2001-2003) since it counted towards the upcoming evaluation even though VT and Miami had left. The Big East only got credit for Louisville's 2004 season.

right, it says 'other conferences', not the current 6 for 08,09. It supports the idea that the BE was viewed as being in unless proved otherwise from the beginning.