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Kragthorpe worst Football coach in Big East!
03-nutkick the guy sucks! 03-phew
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I would disagree. You shut down McCoy and the running game, but your punt returner muffed 2 kicks that Pitt turned into points. Louisville had the edge in total yards and time of possession at the half. Krag doesn't coach the kids to turn the ball over. He had a good game plan, but the kids didn't execute it.
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That was a horrid example of football by the Cardinals! I am gonna just have to grit my teeth and hang on until we get this thing turned around and start winning... in the future! Go Cards!
11-08-2008 03:54 PM
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Golly, the end of the season can't get here soon enough!
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You guys have stunk it up too games in a row. Just like clockwork, you'll have your best shot ready for us when it's time for you to defend the Keg.
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BTW, Mike, very creative (the second one) 03-lmfao
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Shannon Panther Wrote:I would disagree. You shut down McCoy and the running game, but your punt returner muffed 2 kicks that Pitt turned into points. Louisville had the edge in total yards and time of possession at the half. Krag doesn't coach the kids to turn the ball over. He had a good game plan, but the kids didn't execute it.

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Krag didn't make the crucial turn overs that made this game as bad as it was. Hell an L'Ville lineman stood there at the 2 yard line looking at the ball on the fumbled lateral and never tried to cover it and then watch the Pitt player pick it up and run into the end zone with out trying to tackle him. 03-melodramatic 03-puke 05-stirthepot 04-jawdrop 04-cheers
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Yes, this game was all about poor play, poor execution by players, and lack of effort or mental sharpness... I mean by the offense. The defense was pretty sharp and did the best they could for the situation they were put in.
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I thought UL D played well?
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army56mike Wrote:Yes, this game was all about poor play, poor execution by players, and lack of effort or mental sharpness... I mean by the offense. The defense was pretty sharp and did the best they could for the situation they were put in.
Mike, this is exactly what happen under Cooper, he made the team loose its will to win!
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I remember. I sat through every painful loss at Old Cardinal Stadium in that one win season. I don't think we are at that point yet. Teetering on the edge? Maybe.

The thing is, even if many Ville fans got what they wanted, I don't see who would come to Louisville this year as a quality coach. There is just too much high profile turnover this season.

I like Koach. I think he will still make us a big winner.
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Cool, but opinions vary. 04-cheers
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Steve Kragthorpe: The George Bush of College Football
by Jonathan Lintner (Scribe)
November 09, 2008

Stat of the week: Louisville returned 19 players from its Orange Bowl-winning team in 2007, making it difficult to define Steve Kragthorpe's tenure as a time to rebuild.

Stat of the week (part two): Louisville's loss at Pittsburgh last Saturday snapped a seven-game winning streak over the Panthers. Hearing "streak snapped" is a broken record at this point for Louisville.

With the election recently wrapping up, it's hard not to compare Kragthorpe to America's future ex-president, George Bush. Both have single-handedly brought down successful regimes; one a football team, and the other a country.

Bush underperformed and lowered expectations, just like the current coach of the Cardinals. Although Bush wreaked havoc on a national scale, Kragthorpe might be the only man in Louisville with a lower approval rating than Bush.

Maybe that comparison sounds like a stretch, but look deeper into the situation and more parallels can be found.

Bill Clinton brought about a time of economic prosperity to the United States, but his personal issues released to the public ultimately ended his time as president. Former coach Bobby Petrino fills that role well with one exception.

Petrino’s Monica was named Atlanta, and he stayed with his oversized intern over the less-lucrative Louisville.

Some loved Petrino’s methods of winning at all costs, but some loathed him for the very same thing. In the end, everyone recognized that Petrino found success regardless of how he went about that. Clinton can be looked at in the same light.

Now, Louisville needs to look for an Obama—an agent of change for a program that’s fallen to irrelevancy. But how irrelevant are the 5-3 Cardinals?

At the beginning of the season, Louisville was picked to finish seventh in the Big East in front of Syracuse, and fall in behind everyone else. If their current losing trend continues, the Cardinals will find themselves at rock bottom after losing to the aforementioned Orange.

Who will finish ahead of Louisville in the Big East? That’s choice number eight, all of the above.

Two years ago, the current scenario would have been laughed at, gawked at and looked down upon...like some war I hear is still going on.

Bush...I mean Kragthorpe has really drilled the program into the ground.

The fall is only going to last longer if the Senate (athletic director Tom Jurich) has anything to say about impeachment. Jurich and Kragthorpe go way back to when their political careers were young, and it’s doing the coach at Louisville a constant favor.

It’s time for Louisville to finally do what’s right for the people and the players, even if Kragthorpe's term has some time left in it. Impeach Kragthorpe and find some new blood for the house Papa John built.

This article appeared on the Bleacher Report website on Sunday, November 9, 2008.
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I would be concerned about recruiting. ECU has a better recruiting class, at this point, than Louisville.
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Just about everybody does. 04-cheers
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I could care less about the number of stars by a kids name. I care about performance on the field. Stars don't always translate into success. It does translate into media exposure though and thats a good thing.
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Warms my heart.
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I think all your losing is poetic, because you fired a good coach! 04-cheers
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With the benefit of hindsight, it is easy to see what happened. As my old business trainer use to say...if you lose the business deal, then at least don't lose the lesson.

At the end of the second week of football season in Kragthorpe's last year at Tulsa, the TU President and AD jointly decided to start searching for a coach....as it was assumed that Kragthorpe would be gone by season's end. They immediately targeted former TU defensive coordinator Todd Graham, who had left for the head Coach job at Rice. He was the first and only candidate considered. Graham was not an outsider, having help recruit the majority of Tulsa players on the roster.

Louisville should have done the same. Jurich's and Kragthorpe's shared deep friendship has apparently lead to a tragedy. Louisville, like Tulsa, should have stayed with an existing member of the football staff who knew not only each player's abilities...but their quirks, likes and dislikes.

With the benefit of hindsight, it is easy to see why Kragthorpe suceeded at Tulsa. His low key no shouting personality was needed for a TU team that the former coach Keith Burns with his beligerant leadership style and his playing favorites with the players he recruited over the players that were at Tulsa. It ripped the team apart.

With the benefit of hindsight, Kragthorpe's Tight End offense and Tulsa players were a match made in heaven. For all the shortcomings on TU's roster, TU had excellent TEs, lead by Garret Mills, future All-American and now with the Minnesota Vikings. Garret was a TE that coud go deep. Without Garrett, Kragthorpe's TU team was not bowl elgible in his next to last year and then had a dismal performance in the last year against Utah in the Ft. Worth Bowl. Kragthorpe failed to recruit good receivers and TEs to make his offensive scheme prosper at TU.

Enter Todd Graham. Graham brought in the mad scientist Guz Malzahn from Arkansas, who gave new meaning to the term spread offense and, more importantly, proved to be an ace recruiter. Graham also hired his old buddy and Louisville Defensive Coordinator Keith Patterson back to Tulsa. Graham also brougt in Herb Hand from WVA, his old buddy.

Tulsa was pounded into the ground by BYU in Kragthorpe's last year. Graham and Malzahn beat BYU the next season. Graham and Malzahn started three true freshmen wide receivers in that game. Tulsa faces a very good Houston team this Saturday, that is still adjusting to a new coach and offensive philosphy. But, at least for the moment, Tulsa is ranked #24 in the nation by USA Today Coaches poll and #25 in the AP.

Life is a funny thing. We were disheartened to lose Kragthorpe...but there is no doubt Graham and company has taken TU further than Kragthorpe would have. Tulsa, for a nonbcs school, is getting quality recruits under Graham, Malzahn, Patterson, and Hand that we have never gotten before. The future looks bright. Tulsa choked at Fayeteville, letting the Pigs jump out to a 17 point lead in the first quarter, but physically outplaying Arkansas the rest of the way. If you lose, don't lose the lesson. TU coaches, fans, and players all know we should have won that game...but didn't have our heads screwed on right...call it jitters or nervousnes....or call it by its real name...choked. But TU now knows it can play with many BCS teams...that's the lesson.

I feel for the two fine gentlemen, Jurch and Kragthorpe. But, together, they made all the wrong business decisions for all the wrong reasons and tarnished and destroyed the good will and reputations they had built up. I hope Kragthorpe can turn it around at Looieville, but it doesn't seem in the cards (no pun intended). If UL fans are angered which they are, that anger should probably be directed at Jurich first before Kragthorpe.
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Agree, Jurich did not do his homework! 04-cheers
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