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Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
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10-19-2008 01:21 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
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10-19-2008 02:25 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
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10-19-2008 07:20 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
smn1256 Wrote:It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
What damn good would it do to really change the constitution? Those in power don't pay it any attention to it anyway...changing it would not make them adhere to it.
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10-19-2008 08:05 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Fo Shizzle Wrote:...changing it would not make them adhere to it.
Maybe not - but they'd make US adhere to it.
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10-19-2008 08:57 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
smn1256 Wrote:It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing when the Repugs tried to push the flag burning amendment through or when they tried to get GWB a third term.
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10-19-2008 10:33 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
RobertN Wrote:smn1256 Wrote:It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing when the Repugs tried to push the flag burning amendment through or when they tried to get GWB a third term.
That would have been great, but I'd take it a step further. Any f'n moron who views the flag as a symbol of ANY administration, and not a symbol of the strengths and greatness of this country, and decides to burn it in protest, shouldn't vote and should probably head south to a 3rd-World Socialist country of their choosing. How many flags were burned during the Clinton Admin by conservatives? None? Wanna know why? The American flag doesn't represent Bush. It didn't represent Clinton. It didn't represent Carter. It didn't represent Johnson. Etc.
....but I digress, if you wanna burn a flag, I'm fine with it so long as you wrap yourself in it first.
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10-19-2008 10:44 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Rebel Wrote:RobertN Wrote:smn1256 Wrote:It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing when the Repugs tried to push the flag burning amendment through or when they tried to get GWB a third term.
That would have been great, but I'd take it a step further. Any f'n moron who views the flag as a symbol of ANY administration, and not a symbol of the strengths and greatness of this country, and decides to burn it in protest, shouldn't vote and should probably head south to a 3rd-World Socialist country of their choosing. How many flags were burned during the Clinton Admin by conservatives? None? Wanna know why? The American flag doesn't represent Bush. It didn't represent Clinton. It didn't represent Carter. It didn't represent Johnson. Etc.
....but I digress, if you wanna burn a flag, I'm fine with it so long as you wrap yourself in it first.
Go to down town LA and burn a mexican flag. You'd probably be charged with a hate crime as well as inciting a riot and that would happen as soon as you were released from the hospital.
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10-20-2008 10:33 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
smn1256 Wrote:Go to down town LA and burn a mexican flag. You'd probably be charged with a hate crime as well as inciting a riot and that would happen as soon as you were released from the hospital.
Yeah, if Mexico was so great, why'd the **** did they leave?
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10-20-2008 10:36 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
There are too many red states for this to be doable. I believe it takes 3/4 of the states to ratify any changes, so the relevant number is more like 38 states.
Of course, the courts have spent the last 50 years or so doing a pretty good job of making the changes they want.
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10-20-2008 10:48 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Fo Shizzle Wrote:smn1256 Wrote:It would takes years to make changes to the constitution. On top of that, people would wonder why the democrats are working on changing it when there's a financial crisis going on, a war in Iraq, Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and on and on.
What damn good would it do to really change the constitution? Those in power don't pay it any attention to it anyway...changing it would not make them adhere to it.
Game over. End of thread.
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10-20-2008 11:12 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Rebel Wrote:Yeah, if Mexico was so great, why'd the **** did they leave?
Thread overtime.
Now we have a winner!
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10-21-2008 01:59 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
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10-26-2008 08:23 PM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Sophandros Wrote:RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
Thanks for the explanation. It now makes sense.
BTW, am I the Robert on your ignore list?
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2008 12:34 AM by RobertN.)
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10-27-2008 12:30 AM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Sophandros Wrote:RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
It has nothing to do with race, it has to deal with the fact that we pay through the nose in taxes and don't get anything in return. Our tax money is wasted by Fulton County.
The Fulton County Commission is a bunch of crooks. They had a major "road construction" project up here a couple of years ago. One of the Commission contractor lackeys won the bid, and guess what... they only used 1/4 of the necessary reinforcing steel in the roadbed, and the road fell apart in under a year. Its still not repaired right. the contractor admitted he "cut corners"... and nothing happened to him.
I think the people in Dekalb have a good idea-- Don't separate from the County-- incorporate your own city and "cut out" the county.
In 10 years Dekalb County Government is going to be like Fulton and Clayton counties-- ineffective, corrupt and under perpetual investigation.
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10-27-2008 06:05 AM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
RobertN Wrote:Sophandros Wrote:RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
Thanks for the explanation. It now makes sense.
BTW, am I the Robert on your ignore list?
No. There was (and probably is) a Robert who trolls the CUSA boards. He's a TCU fan who makes TCU look REALLY, REALLY, REALLY bad. I don't think that I can type "really" in all caps enough times to let you know how horrible this poster is...
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10-27-2008 08:30 AM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
WMD Owl Wrote:Sophandros Wrote:RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
It has nothing to do with race, it has to deal with the fact that we pay through the nose in taxes and don't get anything in return. Our tax money is wasted by Fulton County.
The Fulton County Commission is a bunch of crooks. They had a major "road construction" project up here a couple of years ago. One of the Commission contractor lackeys won the bid, and guess what... they only used 1/4 of the necessary reinforcing steel in the roadbed, and the road fell apart in under a year. Its still not repaired right. the contractor admitted he "cut corners"... and nothing happened to him.
I think the people in Dekalb have a good idea-- Don't separate from the County-- incorporate your own city and "cut out" the county.
In 10 years Dekalb County Government is going to be like Fulton and Clayton counties-- ineffective, corrupt and under perpetual investigation.
You're being very intellectually dishonest if you claim that it's not about race. In fact, your mention of DeKalb and Clayton are evidence that it is, on many levels, about race. Perhaps it not about race FOR YOU, but I guarantee to you that race is an issue for many of the people who are pushing for their little secession.
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10-27-2008 08:33 AM |
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RE: Would Obama, Pelosi, Reed call for a Constitutional Convention?
Sophandros Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:Sophandros Wrote:RobertN Wrote:WMD Owl Wrote:One of the local Atlanta loonie-left Obama-trons was on the news this morning from Fayetteville North Carolina, declaring that an Obama Election would require Pelosi and Reid to call for a new Constitutional Convention, since "Obama's election is a clear mandate for change and the only way to guarantee change is to change the Constitution."
Looking at Article V, I think a Constitutional Convention could only be called by 2/3 of the State Legislatures.
But how close are the Democrats to getting control of 34 State Legislatures?
This desperation is getting commical. You guys crack me up.
When you consider that Milton County, GA DOES NOT EXIST and that the people who want to re-form Milton County and separate from Fulton County are the same ones who don't want "those people" in their neighborhoods, what do you expect?
It has nothing to do with race, it has to deal with the fact that we pay through the nose in taxes and don't get anything in return. Our tax money is wasted by Fulton County.
The Fulton County Commission is a bunch of crooks. They had a major "road construction" project up here a couple of years ago. One of the Commission contractor lackeys won the bid, and guess what... they only used 1/4 of the necessary reinforcing steel in the roadbed, and the road fell apart in under a year. Its still not repaired right. the contractor admitted he "cut corners"... and nothing happened to him.
I think the people in Dekalb have a good idea-- Don't separate from the County-- incorporate your own city and "cut out" the county.
In 10 years Dekalb County Government is going to be like Fulton and Clayton counties-- ineffective, corrupt and under perpetual investigation.
You're being very intellectually dishonest if you claim that it's not about race. In fact, your mention of DeKalb and Clayton are evidence that it is, on many levels, about race. Perhaps it not about race FOR YOU, but I guarantee to you that race is an issue for many of the people who are pushing for their little secession.
When the State Public School Accreditation Organization gives the Clayton County Public School Board 16 months to get their act together and resolve the list of deficiencies, or lose accreditation of their school system (meaning their Diplomas are essentially worthless and making it next to impossible for their students to get into College)… and the School Board does NOTHING..and accreditation is lost because they did NOTHING ….how is that racial?
When the Clayton County Sheriff (who is black) is sued by numerous Deputies (most of whom are black) for civil service violations…how is that racial?
When Dekalb County Hospital District mismanages Grady Hospital (the only Level 1 Trauma Center in Georgia) to the point it is insolvent and has to get an Emergency Appropriation from the State to stay open…. how is that racial?
When the head of MARTA (who is white) is caught by a cop pulling a “Larry Craig” in a bathroom at the Atlanta Airport, while his agency is drowning in red ink…. how is that racial?
Local Government, is by and large, F’ed Up around here. They can't provide efficieint local government services. I’m tired of paying for F’Ups, whether they be white, brown, black, green, blue, etc. I'm tired of paying for a County government that by and large doesn't give a damn.
If they can't do the job or won't do they job, let the people who live up here do it ourselves.
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10-27-2008 12:49 PM |
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