Does anyone know what the payouts are for the various conference championship games? Not just the BCS leagues, but the MAC, CUSA, BCS leagues etc?

Here are some numbers I dug up a while ago (June 2007) and these numbers themselves might be old. Just a note that Omnicarrier noted that the ACC had revenues of ~ $5.8 for the 2005-2006 championship game.

Revenue (in millions)

MAC: 0.1
CUSA: 1.0
ACC: 5.7
Big 12: 9.0
SEC: 13.2

Houquista would that be 5.7 for both schools individually or combined.

I would figure the B.E. would be looking at 5.5-6 million. Somewhere similar to the ACC or less than. But again we don't have to worry about this as fans for a good long while if ever.

I think that is the total conference revenue listed. So essentially the acc is looking at $6 million divided among 12 teams. ~$500,000 per team or about the equivalent of a extra low level bowl game per team. I am not sure if the breakdown is evenly split or not??

I would guess that a neutral site game probably costs them $1 million + right off the top. Stadium rental and huge travel needs.

ESPN seems to have taken a liking to conference championship games and "conference championship day" appears to becoming established as a traditional tv event. No way to put a dollar value on such exposure for the conferences involved, but there is some worth to it. Conversely, "out of sight, out of mind".

"Conference championship day" is no longer just for conference champs anymore. The Pac 10 and the Big East typically have games that day as well now.

Well the Big East is getting that treatment with WV-USF this year during that week so its not out of mind out of sight and they have showcased a Big east game during that week before.

If the ACC got 5 mill, I see Big East getting less than that probably 3-4 mill, you divide that by the four extra members we must add and makes no sense.

Cubanbull Wrote:Well the Big East is getting that treatment with WV-USF this year during that week so its not out of mind out of sight and they have showcased a Big east game during that week before.

If the ACC got 5 mill, I see Big East getting less than that probably 3-4 mill, you divide that by the four extra members we must add and makes no sense.

I think you're right. Since the 4 teams added would be some combo of:

Memphis
UCF
ECU
Southern Miss
Temple
Army
Navy

Not exactly Arkansas, South Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech (the last schools of note to be added so a conference could go to 12 teams). I didn't mention Baylor b/c they shouldn't have been added to the Big XII...they made a mistake there.

Gray Avenger Wrote:ESPN seems to have taken a liking to conference championship games and "conference championship day" appears to becoming established as a traditional tv event. No way to put a dollar value on such exposure for the conferences involved, but there is some worth to it. Conversely, "out of sight, out of mind".

The Pitt/West Virginia game last year played opposite the Big 12 championship game, and did quite well in the ratings for being up against such stiff competition. Hardly, "out of sight, out of mind" - especially since that game had National Championship game ramifications.

Cheers,
Neil

6million divided by 12 teams. that sucks. I sorta wished it would be split amongst the 2 teams to give more incentive to make it to the title game.

MichaelSavage Wrote:Not exactly Arkansas, South Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech

To include Texas Tech, South Carolina and Boston College in that group is almost laughable.
BTW no self-respecting WVU fan would include VaTech in that group either.
CJ

MAC $100,000 $8,333/team..............the MAC game is essentially a paid advertisement for the league, b/c there is no way they make money with this game

CUSA $1,000,000 $83,333/team....similar to the MAC; It probably costs more to turn on the lights the $83K each team nets

ACC $5,700,000 $475,000/team.....not exactly chump change, but not exactly the big bucks the ACC thought it would get as compared to the SEC

Big 12 $9,000,000 $750,000/team....not bad $$$, but the championship game has hurt this league more than it has helped

SEC $13,200,000 $1,100,000/team.....WOW and why Mike Slive (and formerly Roy Kramer) gets paid the big bucks!

Hawai'i generally plays a late game on this day as well that ESPN has been picking up lately since it can often involve another team from a BCS conference

2001 - BYU (ESPN2) - Early start time, 4pm EST, this was the original game date and was not moved due to 9/11
2002 - San Diego St. (PPV) - Game vs. Alabama was ESPN2 the week before
2003 - Boise St. (ESPN2)
2004 - Michigan St. (ESPN2)
2005 - San Diego St. (PPV) - Game vs. Wisconsin was ESPN2 the week before
2006 - Oregon St. (ESPN)
2007 - Washington (ESPN)
2008 - Cincinnati (ESPN or PPV)

CyberBull Wrote:MAC $100,000 $8,333/team..............the MAC game is essentially a paid advertisement for the league, b/c there is no way they make money with this game

CUSA $1,000,000 $83,333/team....similar to the MAC; It probably costs more to turn on the lights the $83K each team nets

ACC $5,700,000 $475,000/team.....not exactly chump change, but not exactly the big bucks the ACC thought it would get as compared to the SEC

Big 12 $9,000,000 $750,000/team....not bad $$$, but the championship game has hurt this league more than it has helped

SEC $13,200,000 $1,100,000/team.....WOW and why Mike Slive (and formerly Roy Kramer) gets paid the big bucks!

In the case of C-USA, its probably not a bad deal since the games are being played at the home sites of the teams. Presumably, the home team gets a slight uptick in concession/parking revenues.

MAC I assume really takes it on the chin since they've been playing the game at Ford Field in Detroit starting in '04.

CardinalJim Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:Not exactly Arkansas, South Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech

To include Texas Tech, South Carolina and Boston College in that group is almost laughable.
BTW no self-respecting WVU fan would include VaTech in that group either.
CJ

All of those programs are significantly better than those teams mentioned for Big East expansion. Maybe you should lobby for the Cards to return to C-USA if you like those schools so much.

At -I'm guessing 3.5 to 4.5 million(in the neighborhood of $300,000 per team if at 12), it wouldn't be all that lucrative for the BE to go to twelve and have a championship game. Unless the four programs added also brought significant money into the league. The next question is-what are the payouts to BE teams from the league each year. It seems that other leagues are earning significantly more than the BE teams are, especially since the other leagues pay out no matter if you win or are a bottom feeder.

The average estimated payout per FB school under the NEW FB and BB contracts (including estimated NCAA tourney revenues, bowls, etc) will be between $7 and $7.5 million. The BE does not distribute money equally.

MichaelSavage Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:

MichaelSavage Wrote:Not exactly Arkansas, South Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech

To include Texas Tech, South Carolina and Boston College in that group is almost laughable.
BTW no self-respecting WVU fan would include VaTech in that group either.
CJ

All of those programs are significantly better than those teams mentioned for Big East expansion. Maybe you should lobby for the Cards to return to C-USA if you like those schools so much.

That's not the point and you know it. You, as usual, use whatever means to diss the Big East Conference. I say you should tread lightly or you won't be around much longer. The mods here have given you more lee-way than any poser that we have seen here in the past except perhaps your other moniker, TST.
CJ

Hoquista Wrote:The average estimated payout per FB school under the NEW FB and BB contracts (including estimated NCAA tourney revenues, bowls, etc) will be between $7 and $7.5 million. The BE does not distribute money equally.

Based on the above numbers then, if the BE football is going to bring in other teams, those teams are going to need to be able to generate around 7-8 million dollars worth of new revenue per year-perhaps a little bit less if you take into account that the last place BE team will make less than the highest paid team. This is similar to the ACC wanting programs that would generate around 9 million per year when they looked at expansion.

What programs "available" could generate this type of money for the BE? Could Memphis with its excellent basketball bring in this kind of money? Unfortunately there aren't too many teams out there that could bring such a boost to the tv, bowl, etc. coffers of the BE so that in adding that team or teams, all existing schools would at least break even (and I'm not even considering what they'd have to bring to basketball if there wasn't a split). If existing schools just break even it might be questionable to them if it would be worth it.

This is why only teams who have large markets, large fan bases, would bring high paying bowls, corporate sponsorship and probably strong basketball could be considered.

Yes.

Michael, dial down the Louisville/CUSA smack.