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RE: Why doesn't Missouri state join the sun belt?
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Whomever thinks the MVFC can move up as a unit needs to take a few minutes to read the Division I Manual. You can only move to FBS by being invited to join an FBS league.

Second.

While the Valley has been a good league and stable Creighton is likely a top candidate for the new Catholic Big East. Some think Evansville and maybe even Indiana State could be A10 candidates. Illinois State's president has already said they want to go FBS, UNI is exploring FBS so two decades of stability may be ending.

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The Valley is a better basketball league than the Sun Belt, yet Missouri State has no NCAA appearances in the past decade despite being #21 in the RPI once year and having won the Valley in regular season and making the Valley championship game. The Bears could actually be the standard-bearer of the conference instead of living in the shadow of the schools respected by the selection committee.

The Sun Belt has two teams in easy bus trip distance with fans that know how to get to Springfield (or at least Branson) that would likely support Missouri State's entry.

CUSA with 14 members is less likely to add teams and if you look at the membership, who is going to go to bat for the Bears? The schools most associated with basketball are located in the eastern time zone and likely to support adding schools like James Madison. None of the schools in the west are particularly close to Springfield except for Tulsa and they are almost certainly leaving for the Big East (a door opened for their basketball because they play FBS football, they left the Valley years ago because they needed a conference for football, while Wichita State just gave up on football. Tulsa labored for a time in a WAC that was far flung and not very good just because football mattered).
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Re: RE: Why doesn't Missouri state join the sun belt?
(02-03-2013 10:08 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  First.

Whomever thinks the MVFC can move up as a unit needs to take a few minutes to read the Division I Manual. You can only move to FBS by being invited to join an FBS league.

Second.

While the Valley has been a good league and stable Creighton is likely a top candidate for the new Catholic Big East. Some think Evansville and maybe even Indiana State could be A10 candidates. Illinois State's president has already said they want to go FBS, UNI is exploring FBS so two decades of stability may be ending.

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The Valley is a better basketball league than the Sun Belt, yet Missouri State has no NCAA appearances in the past decade despite being #21 in the RPI once year and having won the Valley in regular season and making the Valley championship game. The Bears could actually be the standard-bearer of the conference instead of living in the shadow of the schools respected by the selection committee.

The Sun Belt has two teams in easy bus trip distance with fans that know how to get to Springfield (or at least Branson) that would likely support Missouri State's entry.

CUSA with 14 members is less likely to add teams and if you look at the membership, who is going to go to bat for the Bears? The schools most associated with basketball are located in the eastern time zone and likely to support adding schools like James Madison. None of the schools in the west are particularly close to Springfield except for Tulsa and they are almost certainly leaving for the Big East (a door opened for their basketball because they play FBS football, they left the Valley years ago because they needed a conference for football, while Wichita State just gave up on football. Tulsa labored for a time in a WAC that was far flung and not very good just because football mattered).

Very well said...

It's startling to see the conference RPI differences in basketball, but like you said... What has being in the MVC done to help us out?

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RE: Why doesn't Missouri state join the sun belt?
(06-28-2008 04:54 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The sun belt is a rising league and with the addition of Mizzou st. would be getting closer to having a conference championship game

They apparently do not want anything to do with the SBC. Their aspirations are higher. I thing they want the FBS gods to send down a gold plated invitation to the MVC before even considering moving up to FBS. Good luck with that Mo State.
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RE: Why doesn't Missouri state join the sun belt?
I think it comes down to basketball is the top priority there and the Sun Belt is a step down from the MVC.
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(04-12-2013 06:55 PM)SubGod22 Wrote:  I think it comes down to basketball is the top priority there and the Sun Belt is a step down from the MVC.

Well...how's that been working?
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(04-12-2013 06:58 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 06:55 PM)SubGod22 Wrote:  I think it comes down to basketball is the top priority there and the Sun Belt is a step down from the MVC.

Well...how's that been working?

Not sure I follow. The MVC is the stronger conference and even with the loss of Creighton, it will remain so.
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Re: RE: Why doesn't Missouri state join the sun belt?
(04-12-2013 04:45 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(06-28-2008 04:54 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The sun belt is a rising league and with the addition of Mizzou st. would be getting closer to having a conference championship game

They apparently do not want anything to do with the SBC. Their aspirations are higher. I thing they want the FBS gods to send down a gold plated invitation to the MVC before even considering moving up to FBS. Good luck with that Mo State.

What makes you say that...

The fans may not be all too excited, but I can assure the administration understands.

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