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dfarr Wrote:i agree w/ smaug. these labels do nothing but perpetuate discrimination. i dont agree w/ the black student association, but i do agree w/ the indian cultural association. the difference is that one group promotes their indian culture, whereas the other doesnt because there is no "black" heretige. if it were the african cultural association, the i'd be fine w/ it. right now its just a group that separates blacks from the rest of the student population.

excuse me? no black heritage? no black culture? my god the ignorance on this board is astounding. just so you know the first african slaves arrived on what is now united states soil 440 years ago. you just discounted damn near half a century of history with your statement. there is no one single american culture. the united states is made up of many groups with many cultures. you even have different cultures in different areas of the country. different cultures between urban and rural withing the same state. different cultures between different religious groups.

Wow.

I have to agree with Memphis. This is going nowhere. You guys are not going to convince each other you are right and wrong - and there's not even a defined right or wrong on several of these questions, in my opinion.

draak ijveraar Wrote:

dfarr Wrote:i agree w/ smaug.  these labels do nothing but perpetuate discrimination.  i dont agree w/ the black student association, but i do agree w/ the indian cultural association.  the difference is that one group promotes their indian culture, whereas the other doesnt because there is no "black" heretige.  if it were the african cultural association, the i'd be fine w/ it.  right now its just a group that separates blacks from the rest of the student population.

excuse me? no black heritage? no black culture? my god the ignorance on this board is astounding. just so you know the first african slaves arrived on what is now united states soil 440 years ago. you just discounted damn near half a century of history with your statement. there is no one single american culture. the united states is made up of many groups with many cultures. you even have different cultures in different areas of the country. different cultures between urban and rural withing the same state. different cultures between different religious groups.

Draak, first time you and I have agreed in awhile.

We will fight each other to death over the social relevance of American Idol, but agree on African American culture and the lack of intelligent thought prevalent on this board. :rofl:

UAB21 Wrote:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: See that's what I'm talking about.

Quote:We better dropped this topic before it gets too ugly. It is teetering on a very charged argument that is going to insult and offend.

Memphis Blazer Wrote:

draak ijveraar Wrote:

dfarr Wrote:i agree w/ smaug.  these labels do nothing but perpetuate discrimination.  i dont agree w/ the black student association, but i do agree w/ the indian cultural association.  the difference is that one group promotes their indian culture, whereas the other doesnt because there is no "black" heretige.  if it were the african cultural association, the i'd be fine w/ it.  right now its just a group that separates blacks from the rest of the student population.

excuse me? no black heritage? no black culture? my god the ignorance on this board is astounding. just so you know the first african slaves arrived on what is now united states soil 440 years ago. you just discounted damn near half a century of history with your statement. there is no one single american culture. the united states is made up of many groups with many cultures. you even have different cultures in different areas of the country. different cultures between urban and rural withing the same state. different cultures between different religious groups.

Draak, first time you and I have agreed in awhile.

We will fight each other to death over the social relevance of American Idol, but agree on African American culture and the lack of intelligent thought prevalent on this board. :rofl:

my problem is that deep down what i need to be is a history teacher, but unfortunately i have no patience for ignorance.

i knew i was going to get slammed for that. i didnt mean that there is no black culture. what i meant is that the blacksac doesnt do anything productive, education or common interest-wise, on campus, other than serve as a club to segregate the student population. i used culture since i was talking about the indian cultural association.

I think it's hilarious that a bunch of white surburban guys are sitting around discussing what is or isn't black culture, or what their group should be called.

Yet we get very upset when someone decides that we should be called Alabama-Birmingham rather than UAB, which is our preferred name.

Memphis Blazer Wrote:I think it's hilarious that a bunch of white surburban guys are sitting around discussing what is or isn't black culture, or what their group should be called.

Yet we get very upset when someone decides that we should be called Alabama-Birmingham rather than UAB, which is our preferred name.

You mean a bunch of European-Americans :D

Memphis Blazer Wrote:I think it's hilarious that a bunch of white surburban guys are sitting around discussing what is or isn't black culture, or what their group should be called.

Yet we get very upset when someone decides that we should be called Alabama-Birmingham rather than UAB, which is our preferred name.

I'm simply searching for some commonality, not divisions.

Lots of things make us different. I choose to focus on the things that make us the same. If you can identify those things about your neighbor that you have in common with him, you can develop empathy and perhaps aren't so quick to judge.

Different skin tone than me, fine.
Different religion, great.
Different language, peachy.

We both want our children to be healthy and happy. We both have to cut the grass in this heat. We're both paying more than we want to for gas. We both are dreading our mother-in-law's visit. We both worry about the bills. We both wonder if it's time to trade, or will the old car last another year.

I could go on.

There is too much of this damn US/THEM nonsense as it is. There is no "them". We are all "us." Let's leave that for sports.

For what it's worth, I was a history teacher, 20th century U.S. history, to be exact. You'd have loved my class.

Smaug Wrote:

Memphis Blazer Wrote:I think it's hilarious that a bunch of white surburban guys are sitting around discussing what is or isn't black culture, or what their group should be called. 

Yet we get very upset when someone decides that we should be called Alabama-Birmingham rather than UAB, which is our preferred name.

I'm simply searching for some commonality, not divisions.

Lots of things make us different. I choose to focus on the things that make us the same. If you can identify those things about your neighbor that you have in common with him, you can develop empathy and perhaps aren't so quick to judge.

Different skin tone than me, fine.
Different religion, great.
Different language, peachy.

We both want our children to be healthy and happy. We both have to cut the grass in this heat. We're both paying more than we want to for gas. We both are dreading our mother-in-law's visit. We both worry about the bills. We both wonder if it's time to trade, or will the old car last another year.

I could go on.

There is too much of this damn US/THEM nonsense as it is. There is no "them". We are all "us." Let's leave that for sports.

For what it's worth, I was a history teacher, 20th century U.S. history, to be exact. You'd have loved my class.

You weren't one of those teacher-coaches at your high school, were you? If so, I might have a question for you over PM...

Your idea is a noble idea, but most people will never go for that (and it's a shame).

BlazerSax Wrote:

Smaug Wrote:

Memphis Blazer Wrote:I think it's hilarious that a bunch of white surburban guys are sitting around discussing what is or isn't black culture, or what their group should be called. 

Yet we get very upset when someone decides that we should be called Alabama-Birmingham rather than UAB, which is our preferred name.

I'm simply searching for some commonality, not divisions.

Lots of things make us different. I choose to focus on the things that make us the same. If you can identify those things about your neighbor that you have in common with him, you can develop empathy and perhaps aren't so quick to judge.

Different skin tone than me, fine.
Different religion, great.
Different language, peachy.

We both want our children to be healthy and happy. We both have to cut the grass in this heat. We're both paying more than we want to for gas. We both are dreading our mother-in-law's visit. We both worry about the bills. We both wonder if it's time to trade, or will the old car last another year.

I could go on.

There is too much of this damn US/THEM nonsense as it is. There is no "them". We are all "us." Let's leave that for sports.

For what it's worth, I was a history teacher, 20th century U.S. history, to be exact. You'd have loved my class.

You weren't one of those teacher-coaches at your high school, were you? If so, I might have a question for you over PM...

Your idea is a noble idea, but most people will never go for that (and it's a shame).

Are you kidding? Every history teacher in Alabama has the same first name, "Coach."

At every teaching interview I ever had, upon laying out my credentials, teaching philosophy, thoughts on classroom management, etc. I was asked the same question, "What can you coach?"

PM away.

I guess that's a change with the times. When I was in high school in this area, only one of my history teachers in grades 6-12 was a coach.

LJBlazerFan Wrote:I guess that's a change with the times. When I was in high school in this area, only one of my history teachers in grades 6-12 was a coach.

I think I took at least one class per year in high school that was wasn't related to athletics, and was taught by someone who coached something.

I was in high school in the mid-80's.

I was in high school about the same time.

I think there's a difference in a teacher who decides to become a coach (assistant or head coach) compared to a coach who is hired and just teaches whatever to be able to coach.

Smaug, check your PMs, dawg...lol

Sorry, Sax.

Every time I try, I get the "we're sorry, an error has occurred" message and it logs me out.

Maybe the message board gods can intervene on my behalf.

Oh, and, for what it's worth, LJB, you're right, there is a difference, and the kids can tell in the blink of an eye. I liked coaching, but I loved teaching.

If I had to do one without the other, I'd take teaching every time.

I can always sit in the stands, wave my shaker, and yell, "boolah, boolah" at the games. Which is what I did for sports I didn't coach.