Quote:Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.” We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history
Quote:In a telephone interview on CNN just a few minutes ago, Robert Gibbs, the communications director for Senator Barack Obama, called Mr. Bush’s remarks “astonishing” and an “unprecendented political attack on foreign soil.”
Wow! I didn't hear him mention anyone by name. Mr. Obama if you don't plan to do this why would you be offended?
Quote: Joe Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said that if the president disagrees so strongly with the idea of talking to Iran, then he needs to fire his secretaries of state and defense, both of whom Biden said have pushed to sit down with the Iranians.
"This is bulls**t. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset ... and make this kind of ridiculous statement," he said.
"beneath the dignity of the office of the president"
There's a difference between saying "Iran you are misunderstood we need to be more understanding" as Obama would, and telling no Nukes or will give them a Nuclear weapons demonstration.
Quote:House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called Bush's comments "beneath the dignity of the office of the president" and implored serious-minded people to repudiate them, a pointed invitation to Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
Bush never referred to anyone specifically or even to US leaders generally so again UNLESS OBAMA PLANS TO APPEASE THE IRANIANS HOW IS THIS OFFENSIVE?
I think what it shows is that he hit really close to home with them, criticizing and approach they truly believe in. Though they'd never admit it cause to do so would be political suicide.
He wasn't talking specifically about any of them. It's no different than what he's said in the past. It's a subconcious thing with them.
I love White House response though.
"We know when you're running for president you think the world revolves around you, but that's not always the case."
Jimmy Carter just did this, as have many movie stars and political activists like Michael Moore. Unless Obama has said "We should negotiate with terrorists and radicals"... he is outing HIMSELF with the help of the Democratic party.
We DO have diplomatic relationships with them, but at the level deemed appropriate by politicians for more than 100 years... INCLUDING Bill Clinton and Kennedy.
This is a bunch of Democrats crying foul to gain advantage... Republicans do it to... and its ALL a bunch of crap
uhmump95 Wrote:Come on. It was an obvious jab at the Dems and Obama in general since he has said we need to have diplomatic relations with Iran about Iraq.
Just because Bush is your man, you should not disconnect your common sence to follow his drivel.
Common sense tells us there's nothing to suggest he was jabbing at them. Reason being he's said the exact same thing before on many occassions.
Their reaction to his statement is what's more telling.
Just because Bush isn't your man doesn't mean you should disconnect your common sense to attack him.
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2008 10:30 AM by Ninerfan1.)
the hilarious part is that Bush quoted a 1930's REPUBLICAN Senator from Idaho in the speech on this. "Lord if only I could've talked to Hitler"......an isolationist fool of course.
rookie, "negotiate without PRECONDITIONS" with this:
Obama: "So this "Hidden Imam" fella, can we get you to just you know, forget about all that?" We need you to not really believe in your RELIGION
DinnerJacket: Submit Infidel, Death to America, Death to Israel. The Hidden Imam will come via destruction of the world at the hand of Iranian Nukes. This is all in his hands, you are a filthy infidel and apostate.
Obama: OK, well can you atleast sign this piece of paper claiming you are at Peace with us so I can parade it around on TV. I need to get my poll numbers up before this all goes down.
DinnerJacket: sure
Obama: Thanks, "Allah Akubar"
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2008 05:05 PM by GGniner.)
cb4029 Wrote:Bush's policy sure seems to be working.
I can see how it has stopped Iran from moving forward with their bomb plans.
I'm confused, just last year the Dems and media were jumping all over a leaked portion of the NIE that claimed Iran stopped their production of Nukes in 2003?
meanwhile, via Al-Jazera. Hamas is actively CAMPAIGNING FOR OBAMA
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2008 04:59 PM by GGniner.)
Obama missed an opportunity to totally slamdunk this one....All he had to say was "I agree with the President...When I sit and talk with him, there will be NO consessions made to Iran obtaining nuclear weapons."
This whole thing is just the same old stupid ass politics....that dont mean anything, expecially in this case...since the Israel will take care of ANY threat that Iran poses to them...without our help.
Why in the hell are we worrying about Israel anyway?...I think they have shown that they can take care of themselves.
cb4029 Wrote:Bush's policy sure seems to be working.
I can see how it has stopped Iran from moving forward with their bomb plans.
I'm confused, just last year the Dems and media were jumping all over a leaked portion of the NIE that claimed Iran stopped their production of Nukes in 2003?
meanwhile, via Al-Jazera. Hamas is actively CAMPAIGNING FOR OBAMA
Where in that video does it say Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama? Young Palestinians are not necessarily Hamas members, contrary to what you may think.
perunapower Wrote:Where in that video does it say Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama? Young Palestinians are not necessarily Hamas members, contrary to what you may think.
Are you saying Hamas isn't supporting Baracka?
As for young Palestinians, no, they don't all fall into that category, but they have a greater percentage of becoming Hamas than white people in this country becoming Klan members.....if that'll tell you anything.
perunapower Wrote:Where in that video does it say Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama? Young Palestinians are not necessarily Hamas members, contrary to what you may think.
Are you saying Hamas isn't supporting Baracka?
As for young Palestinians, no, they don't all fall into that category, but they have a greater percentage of becoming Hamas than white people in this country becoming Klan members.....if that'll tell you anything.
Did I say that? No. Question answered.
Your logic is ridiculous. Because some young Palestinians support Hamas and some young Palestinians actively support Obama, then Hamas must be actively supporting Obama. Then you back up this logic by making a useless analogy to whites and the KKK. Seriously?
If it's not in that video, then it can't be assumed. Show me where in that video it says or shows that Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama.
perunapower Wrote:Did I say that? No. Question answered.
Your logic is ridiculous. Because some young Palestinians support Hamas and some young Palestinians actively support Obama, then Hamas must be actively supporting Obama. Then you back up this logic by making a useless analogy to whites and the KKK. Seriously?
If it's not in that video, then it can't be assumed. Show me where in that video it says or shows that Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama.
Dude, seriously? I don't think even Baracka's staff has defended it. How about Hezbollah?
perunapower Wrote:Then you back up this logic by making a useless analogy to whites and the KKK. Seriously?
Now, as to this, do you want to analyze this? We're both intelligent individuals. I'm thinking you want no part of it. You just want to spew your points and hope I don't call you on it. I call.
perunapower Wrote:Did I say that? No. Question answered.
Your logic is ridiculous. Because some young Palestinians support Hamas and some young Palestinians actively support Obama, then Hamas must be actively supporting Obama. Then you back up this logic by making a useless analogy to whites and the KKK. Seriously?
If it's not in that video, then it can't be assumed. Show me where in that video it says or shows that Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama.
Dude, seriously? I don't think even Baracka's staff has defended it. How about Hezbollah?
Defended what? You're twisting my argument. I never said he doesn't have the endorsement of Hamas or Hezbollah or whoever else. I said that just because a group of young Palestinians actively campaigning for Obama doesn't mean that Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama. There was nothing else included. No implicit meanings. Nothing.
There is no mention of Hamas actively campaigning for Barack Obama in that video, no matter how many times you watch it. Period.
perunapower Wrote:Defended what? You're twisting my argument. I never said he doesn't have the endorsement of Hamas or Hezbollah or whoever else. I said that just because a group of young Palestinians actively campaigning for Obama doesn't mean that Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama.
I don't remember saying it did.
Quote:There was nothing else included. No implicit meanings. Nothing.
Hezbollah? Yeah, they're a peaceful bunch, they are. /sarcasm
Quote:There is no mention of Hamas actively campaigning for Barack Obama in that video, no matter how many times you watch it. Period.
Well of course, it wasn't a Hamas video, it was a Hezbollah video. It doesn't take a genius to google Hamas and Barack to find the support. Shall I do it for you? Or are you already brainwashed into thinking he's the second coming of Christ?
Quote:There was nothing else included. No implicit meanings. Nothing.
Hezbollah? Yeah, they're a peaceful bunch, they are. /sarcasm
Not sure why you quoted that section of text, but I agree Hezbollah is not a peaceful bunch.
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Quote:There is no mention of Hamas actively campaigning for Barack Obama in that video, no matter how many times you watch it. Period.
Well of course, it wasn't a Hamas video, it was a Hezbollah video. It doesn't take a genius to google Hamas and Barack to find the support. Shall I do it for you? Or are you already brainwashed into thinking he's the second coming of Christ?
Uhh... it was talking about young Palestinians. Hamas is a Palestinian organization and Hezbollah is a Lebanese organization.
So when I google "Hamas" and "Obama", I get the follow articles.
No, he's nowhere near the second coming of Christ and I'm certainly capable of thinking for myself. Just because I support Obama doesn't mean I agree with him on every issue. He is the candidate I agree with on the most issues.
perunapower Wrote:Where in that video does it say Hamas is actively campaigning for Obama? Young Palestinians are not necessarily Hamas members, contrary to what you may think.
uh, because Hamas runs Palestine and nothing happens, especially of this nature without their approval and its likely their idea. Its not exactly the USA over there freedom wise. and Al-Jazeera wouldn't be covering it without Hamas' approval also.
Hamas controls Gaza, which is where that video is from. Its not Kansas where you have political freedom, its a police state run by a Terrorist group, hamas. Saddam's buddies he financed. Of course they support the guy that will strengthen their cause.
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2008 09:54 AM by GGniner.)
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