Quote:In no way are we telling anyone how to vote in November, but here is some information (sent to us) to consider before casting your vote. We may not like everything President Bush does, but please remember that he doesn't run the country as a dictator, look at Congress and the Senate. See the information below. I, for one, am torn about the candidates running for office this year. Hilary's universal healthcare scares me. Barack's "hope" and "change" scares me because we have no idea what he wants to change. McCain, not sure what to think yet about him.

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This email comes in three parts:

Part 1
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing. http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax 18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax 31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates. It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.

PART 3:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...dt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...dt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...dt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...dt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0...dt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/p...tation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States." Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Are we THAT stupid?

If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

There is no doubt that the welfare state is ruining the US....This info shows this pretty well.
One of the things that people fail to understand is that there is a difference between "deserving and underserving" welfare or charity recipients. Our current system has them under one roof and fails to really help the "deserving" poor,while allowing a free ride to those that wish to be unmotivated,uneducated and are happy to live their lives of the labor of others.

Elimination of the welfare state would accomplish 4 things.....Illegals would likely go back to thier country of origin....Wellfare freeriders would be motivated to selfsufficiency.....Deserving poor would be easily helped through "efficient" private charity....Middle class wellfare bureaucrats that siphon off 70% of the welfare system money through benefits would have to find a job in the private sector.

Fo Shizzle Wrote:Elimination of the welfare state would accomplish 4 things.....Illegals would likely go back to thier country of origin....Wellfare freeriders would be motivated to selfsufficiency.....Deserving poor would be easily helped through "efficient" private charity....Middle class wellfare bureaucrats that siphon off 70% of the welfare system money through benefits would have to find a job in the private sector.

....but they wouldn't vote Democratic hence the reason there's no way in hell that'll ever happen, not when you have f'n idiots like Baracka telling everyone in NC, "People want someone in office that'll solve their problems". Huh? What are we, a nation of imbeciles?

RebelKev Wrote:

Fo Shizzle Wrote:Elimination of the welfare state would accomplish 4 things.....Illegals would likely go back to thier country of origin....Wellfare freeriders would be motivated to selfsufficiency.....Deserving poor would be easily helped through "efficient" private charity....Middle class wellfare bureaucrats that siphon off 70% of the welfare system money through benefits would have to find a job in the private sector.

....but they wouldn't vote Democratic hence the reason there's no way in hell that'll ever happen, not when you have f'n idiots like Baracka telling everyone in NC, "People want someone in office that'll solve their problems". Huh? What are we, a nation of imbeciles?

Imbeciles?...No..Statist indoctrinated fools...yes

This impending economic meltdown sits on the shoulders of:
- Alan Greenspan (ludicrously low interest rates; inflation)
- Ben Bernanke (ludicrously low interest rates; inflation)
- George W. Bush (guns and butter; massive federal deficit)
- Bill Clinton (guns and butter; borrowed from entitlement programs to balance the budget)
- George Bush (guns and butter; massive federal deficit)
- Ronald Reagen (for not ending Reaganomics borrowing after we came out of the bad times)

I could go back further, but even after Jimmy carter only left the country with $700 billion in national debt. After Reagan it stood at $3 trillion. And things only got much worse from there on. Also pretty pathetic we haven't had a President who has tried to do the impossible (provide for guns and butter) since Reagan. Those $80,000,000 cruise missles don't grow on trees, and all of those clowns used quite a few, among countless other things.

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:This impending economic meltdown sits on the shoulders of:
- Alan Greenspan (ludicrously low interest rates; inflation)
- Ben Bernanke (ludicrously low interest rates; inflation)
- George W. Bush (guns and butter; massive federal deficit)
- Bill Clinton (guns and butter; borrowed from entitlement programs to balance the budget)
- George Bush (guns and butter; massive federal deficit)
- Ronald Reagen (for not ending Reaganomics borrowing after we came out of the bad times)

I could go back further, but even after Jimmy carter only left the country with $700 billion in national debt. After Reagan it stood at $3 trillion. And things only got much worse from there on. Also pretty pathetic we haven't had a President who has tried to do the impossible (provide for guns and butter) since Reagan. Those $80,000,000 cruise missles don't grow on trees, and all of those clowns used quite a few, among countless other things.

We reaped the benefit of the .com boom and Clinton really didnt do anything but ride it(to his credit)...We ended up eliminating a the national debt and ended up with surplus in the treasury....Its a damn shame that we didnt seize that opportunity to actually have solved our national energy problems...built nuclear plants,invested in alternative energy sources...ect. Instead...we squandered one of the greatest economic growth periods in our history by diving into a ill concieved,interventionist war and are now suffering the consequences of lost lives and lost capital.

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:Those $80,000,000 cruise missles don't grow on trees, and all of those clowns used quite a few, among countless other things.

I think you're a little high on your figure. Just a tad.

We need to pass a balanced budget amendment. Get the financial house in order. The remaining 25% who still support this war would change their minds if they had to actually finance it.

Machiavelli Wrote:We need to pass a balanced budget amendment. Get the financial house in order. The remaining 25% who still support this war would change their minds if they had to actually finance it.

Seems like we could finance the war and have tons left over each year if we got the illegals off the government teet.

RebelKev Wrote:

Machiavelli Wrote:We need to pass a balanced budget amendment. Get the financial house in order. The remaining 25% who still support this war would change their minds if they had to actually finance it.

Seems like we could finance the war and have tons left over each year if we got the illegals off the government teet.

Dream world solution. While I agree we should be doing everything in our efforts to curb and deport illegals, it will take DECADES to solve the problem.

Exaggeration for effect. But it all adds up in a hurry.

$730,000/each for a Tactical Tomahawk missle. A cruise missle is comparable in price.
The cheapy is the JDAM at $31,000/each.
Each FA-22 Raptor is north of $22,000,000/each.
Each Apache chopper is north of $18,000,000/each.

The Pentagon ranks 44th in the world among NATIONS in terms of oil use. That M-1 Abrams doesn't get many mpg.

Then there is upkeep on every plane, helicopter, boat, carrier, cruiser, destroyer, truck, humvee, apc, tank, etc.

Gotta pay the soldiers. They get payed stunningly little given their job.

Oh yea -- gotta provision all those soldiers. That means not just food, water, ammo, medical ... but the actual logistics of getting it all there.

Let's not forget the private contractors pulling down six figures per person per year, much less their total bill including provisions.

Of course we also launch a few satellites every year for new services or to replace aging existing satellites. That's bare minimum dozens of millions each a year.

I know just our overseas military spending is north of $1,000,000,000,000/year. That sorta dough would put one HELL of a dent in our deficit.

Guns and butter folks. All throughout history no nation has been able to go to war without suffering economically. You either pay as you go like in WWII where everything was rationed and there were huge war bond and recycling efforts. Or you can pay later, and we payed for Korea and Vietnam with corresponding downturns. Our impending meltdown is the consequence of guns and butter for some time now as well as mind numbingly stupid behavior by the Fed and the all those involved in the federal budget.

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

Machiavelli Wrote:We need to pass a balanced budget amendment. Get the financial house in order. The remaining 25% who still support this war would change their minds if they had to actually finance it.

Seems like we could finance the war and have tons left over each year if we got the illegals off the government teet.

Dream world solution. While I agree we should be doing everything in our efforts to curb and deport illegals, it will take DECADES to solve the problem.

Ending the welfare state would eliminate most of the problems with both legals and illegals that benefit from the theft of our wages.
Legals would have to find employment...Illegals would have to go back to their country of origin after the harvest..as they did for centuries.